It's true that Qt 5 will not be available for Symbian?!!!!



  • It's true that Qt5 will not be available for Symbian?!!!! :(

    look this: "http://doc.qt.nokia.com/5.0-snapshot/supported-platforms.html":http://doc.qt.nokia.com/5.0-snapshot/supported-platforms.html
    last lines:

    bq. Planned Changes for Qt 5.0
    The following changes to the list of supported platforms are at time of publishing planned for Qt 5.0:

    • Symbian support is going to be removed.

    if yes, this will be a one more sad news about Symbian :(

    bq. and the most astonishing is “Windows CE and Windows Mobile” will be supported in Qt5!!!! (you can read this in first lines: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/5.0-snapshot/supported-platforms.html [doc.qt.nokia.com])
    The dead Windows Mobile is more important than Symbian for Nokia now!!! what’s the hell about the new strategy of Nokia!
    can any guys form Nokia or Qt team give us a clarification about this?
    The only explanation that I found is: “Nokia will kill Symbian before Qt5/Qt Quick 2 will be released”, I hope any guys from Nokia/Qt team tell me this is not true and give us a clarification



  • [quote author="Ayman" date="1327352080"]if yes, this will be a one more sad news about Symbian :([/quote]

    Yes, this will be very sad indeed :(



  • please vote here for maintaining support of Qt Quick 2 for Symbian Belle/Carla Devices: "https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-23856":https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-23856



  • Oh well, Symbian is supposed to die soon and porting Qt Quick 2 to it, especially to older models, especially when so many Symbian people are laid off already..

    IMHO, unless it is real easy, such porting could make big sense only if Windows Phone sales suck real much. But in this case, there are good chances others will try to buy Nokia, MSFT is likely to win and then improving Symbian much doesn't make sense anyway.



  • Nokia wasted precious time and talent in porting Qt to S50 5th edition phones. They should have ported directly to the updated Symbian UI. Better not to do the same mistake again by investing in a platform which got a expiry date.



  • This is a stab on the back... :(

    so sad, after read the sale of s40 device number 1.500.000.000



  • and the most astonishing is "Windows CE and Windows Mobile" will be supported in Qt5!!!! (you can read this in first lines: "http://doc.qt.nokia.com/5.0-snapshot/supported-platforms.html":http://doc.qt.nokia.com/5.0-snapshot/supported-platforms.html)
    The dead Windows Mobile is more important than Symbian for Nokia now!!! what's the hell about the new strategy of Nokia!
    can any guys form Nokia or Qt team give us a clarification about this?

    The only explanation that I found is: "Nokia will kill Symbian before Qt5/Qt Quick 2 will be released", I hope any guys from Nokia/Qt team tell me this is not true and give us a clarification



  • [quote author="GentooXativa" date="1327658307"]This is a stab on the back... :(

    so sad, after read the sale of s40 device number 1.500.000.000[/quote]

    But S40 isn't Symbian at all, and doesn't run Qt now either. So what's your point?



  • [quote author="Ayman" date="1327796212"]and the most astonishing is "Windows CE and Windows Mobile" will be supported in Qt5!!!! (you can read this in first lines: "http://doc.qt.nokia.com/5.0-snapshot/supported-platforms.html":http://doc.qt.nokia.com/5.0-snapshot/supported-platforms.html)
    [/quote]

    Considering the partnership between Nokia and Microsoft the support of Microsoft's OS is not that surprising. I hope that Windows Phone will be supported too.



  • Support for at least Windows CE isn't supprising at all. It is used a lot in the embedded world, and that is an important market for Qt.


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    Guys - relax. The whole notion of platform support is different in Qt5. Those that are to be officially supported are listed in the article you linked. Non-desktop platforms are now meant to be provided as platform plugins. Nokia seems to be abandoning Symbian in Qt5, but there is nothing stopping the community from providing a platform plugin. This may come as bad news, but actually helps keep Qt5 sources cleaner and more consistent - and let us not forget, that Qt4 is still strong and supports Symbian fully.



  • [quote author="sierdzio" date="1327843081"]Guys - relax. The whole notion of platform support is different in Qt5. Those that are to be officially supported are listed in the article you linked. Non-desktop platforms are now meant to be provided as platform plugins. Nokia seems to be abandoning Symbian in Qt5, but there is nothing stopping the community from providing a platform plugin. This may come as bad news, but actually helps keep Qt5 sources cleaner and more consistent - and let us not forget, that Qt4 is still strong and supports Symbian fully.[/quote]

    If Nokia will not release officially Qt Quick 2 for Symbian, applications built with Qt Quick 2 will not accepted in Nokia Store even if community port Qt 5 to Symbian...
    Qt Quick 2 (in preview version) is amazing and will offer many new possibilities to developers for Symbian... Hope Nokia go back in their decision and continue the support of the amazing Symbian...



  • [quote author="Andre" date="1327829020"]Support for at least Windows CE isn't supprising at all. It is used a lot in the embedded world, and that is an important market for Qt.[/quote]

    who is most used in the world, windows mobile or Symbian? then who is the most important market for Qt, Windows Mobile or Symbian? definitely Symbian if you see the statistics



  • I wouldn't get too excited/upset about the supported platforms page at the moment. Traditionally, it's been one of the last pages to be updated before a release and, unless I've missed some important news, that hasn't happened yet.

    But the planned changes for Qt 5.0 section looks pretty final, I have to agree.



  • [quote author="Ayman" date="1327928077"]who is most used in the world, windows mobile or Symbian?[/quote]
    Personally, I think both of them are dead to me but Symbian still the most popular. But I'm wondering if Qt will drops Symbian support why no one think about Android!!!

    Android came from Linux and there is a promising open source project for using Qt into Android ( http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/necessitas/ )... why Qt don't merge that project with one of upcoming versions?



  • [quote author="mbnoimi" date="1331436570"]But I'm wondering if Qt will drops Symbian support why no one think about Android!!![/quote]

    You are very badly informed. There is a project for bringing Qt to Android! It is called "Necessitas":http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/necessitas/ and its results are quite good :)



  • [quote author="leon.anavi" date="1331459020"]You are very badly informed. There is a project for bringing Qt to Android! It is called "Necessitas":http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/necessitas/ and its results are quite good :)
    [/quote]

    Exactly, who has the last word now (after moving to open governance) in Qt road map? It's vital to make Qt available for popular mobile operating systems (Android or/and iOS) and not related to specified company policies ( you know, Nokia encourages developers to write Symbian and WMP7 applications )


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