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  • JonBJ JonB

    Since we've gone all light-hearted now....

    @kshegunov said in Less People Here?:

    except the metric system that is ... ;)

    At least in my field everybody uses the metric

    Anybody with any sense[TM] knows that the Imperial system relates better to the everyday real world than the Metric system. An inch, foot, yard, mile, pound, pint correspond much better to human experiences. We are not all nuclear scientists like your colleagues are, measuring in units which are abstract, plus have no soul....

    :)

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    #28

    @JonB I'll just leave it here :)
    imperial_vs_metric

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      #29

      @kshegunov & @Chris-Kawa
      Brilliant! I admit I didn't know about all those other measurements. They all seem to make real-world sense to me, and I'm even more impressed by the Imperial system than I was! :)

      Just for example. A pint is the natural size to drink beer in a pub. A litre means nothing, and is too big. I rest my case.

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        #30

        @JonB said in Less People Here?:

        They all seem to make real-world sense to me, and I'm even more impressed by the Imperial system than I was! :)

        Like the one comment from matts video adequately put it:

        Imperial Pile of measurement, not system :P


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        • JonBJ JonB

          @kshegunov & @Chris-Kawa
          Brilliant! I admit I didn't know about all those other measurements. They all seem to make real-world sense to me, and I'm even more impressed by the Imperial system than I was! :)

          Just for example. A pint is the natural size to drink beer in a pub. A litre means nothing, and is too big. I rest my case.

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          #31

          @JonB said in Less People Here?:

          A pint is the natural size to drink beer in a pub. A litre means nothing, and is too big. I rest my case.

          Indeed, that's a good and logical reason. ... almost as as measuring people's weight in stone, because what's more natural than equating people with rocks ... ;)
          But if you're into it, the litre works excellently for rakija, you drink either one, two or three, depending on how bulgarian you feel that day ;P

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            #32

            Look you metricians: the definition of your centimetre is:

            the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second

            divided by 100. Nice one. Very everyday. Great for scientists. Meaningless for the hoi polloi. I'll take my inches any day.

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            • JonBJ JonB

              Look you metricians: the definition of your centimetre is:

              the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second

              divided by 100. Nice one. Very everyday. Great for scientists. Meaningless for the hoi polloi. I'll take my inches any day.

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              #33

              @JonB said in Less People Here?:

              the definition of your centimetre is

              What I find curious is whether you googled the definition of the inch? ;)

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              • kshegunovK kshegunov

                @JonB said in Less People Here?:

                the definition of your centimetre is

                What I find curious is whether you googled the definition of the inch? ;)

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                #34

                @kshegunov
                I don't need to, if you are English you can inherently sense what an inch is.

                EDIT
                So I looked at your reference:

                Standards for the exact length of an inch have varied in the past, but since the adoption of the international yard during the 1950s and 1960s it has been based on the metric system and defined as exactly 25.4 mm.

                Typical. That is the metric inch. Not the real inch.

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                • kshegunovK kshegunov

                  @JonB said in Less People Here?:

                  the definition of your centimetre is

                  What I find curious is whether you googled the definition of the inch? ;)

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                  #35

                  @kshegunov said in Less People Here?:

                  What I find curious is whether you googled the definition of the inch? ;)

                  Why bother to google something so obvious? Everyone knows that an inch is 1/12 of a foot.

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                  • JonBJ JonB

                    @kshegunov
                    I don't need to, if you are English you can inherently sense what an inch is.

                    EDIT
                    So I looked at your reference:

                    Standards for the exact length of an inch have varied in the past, but since the adoption of the international yard during the 1950s and 1960s it has been based on the metric system and defined as exactly 25.4 mm.

                    Typical. That is the metric inch. Not the real inch.

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                    #36

                    @JonB said in Less People Here?:

                    I don't need to, if you are English you can inherently sense what an inch is.

                    Nevertheless, let me help you my very english friend: the inch is defined as exactly 25.4 mm

                    @mzimmers said in Less People Here?:

                    Why bother to google something so obvious? Everyone knows that an inch is 1/12 of a foot.

                    That would be a unit conversion, not a definition. Just like the centimetre is a tenth of the meter (centi- is the giveaway here).

                    Typical. That is the metric inch. Not the real inch.

                    lol.

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                    • kshegunovK kshegunov

                      @JonB said in Less People Here?:

                      I don't need to, if you are English you can inherently sense what an inch is.

                      Nevertheless, let me help you my very english friend: the inch is defined as exactly 25.4 mm

                      @mzimmers said in Less People Here?:

                      Why bother to google something so obvious? Everyone knows that an inch is 1/12 of a foot.

                      That would be a unit conversion, not a definition. Just like the centimetre is a tenth of the meter (centi- is the giveaway here).

                      Typical. That is the metric inch. Not the real inch.

                      lol.

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                      #37

                      @kshegunov said in Less People Here?:

                      Just like the centimetre is a tenth of the meter (centi- is the giveaway here).

                      Another reason not to trust metric. Simplicity of the math encourages laziness of thought, leading to this kind of error :) Imperial arithmetic keeps you on your toes....

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                      • JonBJ JonB

                        @kshegunov & @Chris-Kawa
                        Brilliant! I admit I didn't know about all those other measurements. They all seem to make real-world sense to me, and I'm even more impressed by the Imperial system than I was! :)

                        Just for example. A pint is the natural size to drink beer in a pub. A litre means nothing, and is too big. I rest my case.

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                        #38

                        @JonB said in Less People Here?:

                        A pint is the natural size to drink beer in a pub.

                        yes but! Have you ever been in a pub that actually pours a pint? Of course not, if any person behind a bar stops at the pint line they will be covered in tar and feathers and trotted down the high road in a walk of shame. They pour to the point of overflowing (and rightly so) which usually is... half of a litre.

                        For more information please re-read.

                        Kind Regards,
                        Artur

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                        • kshegunovK kshegunov

                          @sierdzio said in Less People Here?:

                          Are we going down that rabbit hole again? :D

                          Not at all just having a little bit of fun at @mzimmers' nationality, harmless teasing, nothing more.

                          @mzimmers said in Less People Here?:

                          @artwaw said in Less People Here?:
                          "I want and you are here to help me regardless of how I treat you", so American in its heart,

                          Just so we are clear I think this is a poor choice of words referring to the US being the proud flagman of consumerism (i.e. a reference to the "client's always right").

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                          #39

                          @kshegunov said in Less People Here?:

                          except the metric system that is ... ;)

                          @sierdzio said in Less People Here?:

                          Are we going down that rabbit hole again? :D

                          Not at all just having a little bit of fun [...]

                          Yeah, I can see the situation escalated quickly :-)

                          (Z(:^

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                          • sierdzioS sierdzio

                            @kshegunov said in Less People Here?:

                            except the metric system that is ... ;)

                            @sierdzio said in Less People Here?:

                            Are we going down that rabbit hole again? :D

                            Not at all just having a little bit of fun [...]

                            Yeah, I can see the situation escalated quickly :-)

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                            #40

                            @sierdzio OK children, lets play nice...
                            In between us girls...
                            I find Qt (C++) very versatile , but from get go frustrating to "download" and it is not a problem of licensing.
                            After one gets a Qt account there are uncounted ways to actually get to the correct place to load "archive".
                            It gives poor impression about the vendor.
                            Let me out another spin on this "poor impression".
                            My background is in communication - telecommunication - telephony to be precise.
                            I came to US with "year 1940 knowledge of mechanical switching system (relays) and retired after ushering few computerized , transistorized , IC 's , fiber optic etc etc "stuff" .
                            In "before internet " US telephone service was top, almost every business had an operator to assist the customer...
                            Now try call and conduct serious business.... first you get "...our options has changed...for English press..."
                            Why am I saying this? I am trying to draw a parallel between "download Qt" and trying to get a live person to assist with telephone inquiry.
                            That is all I am saying.

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                              #41

                              Years ago a restaurant tried to introduce the 1/3 pounder. Nobody wanted to buy it as they thought a 1/4 pounder was bigger. Because 4 is bigger than 3. I wish I were making this up. Can you expect a population to accept metric over inch when those kinds of issues are going on? Also, there are millions of feet of imperially spec'd infrastructure installed. That is never going away. The best you can hope for is some hybrid at this point.

                              C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                                Years ago a restaurant tried to introduce the 1/3 pounder. Nobody wanted to buy it as they thought a 1/4 pounder was bigger. Because 4 is bigger than 3. I wish I were making this up. Can you expect a population to accept metric over inch when those kinds of issues are going on? Also, there are millions of feet of imperially spec'd infrastructure installed. That is never going away. The best you can hope for is some hybrid at this point.

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                                @fcarney said in Less People Here?:

                                Years ago a restaurant tried to introduce the 1/3 pounder. Nobody wanted to buy it as they thought a 1/4 pounder was bigger. Because 4 is bigger than 3. I wish I were making this up.

                                And...we let these people vote.

                                Civilization, meet your demise...

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                                  @fcarney said in Less People Here?:

                                  Years ago a restaurant tried to introduce the 1/3 pounder. Nobody wanted to buy it as they thought a 1/4 pounder was bigger. Because 4 is bigger than 3. I wish I were making this up.

                                  And...we let these people vote.

                                  Civilization, meet your demise...

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                                  #43

                                  @mzimmers said in Less People Here?:

                                  And...we let these people vote.

                                  Let me throw you a bone (the political kind):
                                  "The biggest problem of Bulgaria is the bad (quality of the) human material in the country" ~B. Borissov, 2009

                                  For context:
                                  B. Borissov had been the PM of Bulgaria for 12 years bar the last few months. So be optimistic - it can always get/be worse. ;)

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                                  • fcarneyF fcarney

                                    Years ago a restaurant tried to introduce the 1/3 pounder. Nobody wanted to buy it as they thought a 1/4 pounder was bigger. Because 4 is bigger than 3. I wish I were making this up. Can you expect a population to accept metric over inch when those kinds of issues are going on? Also, there are millions of feet of imperially spec'd infrastructure installed. That is never going away. The best you can hope for is some hybrid at this point.

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                                    @fcarney said in Less People Here?:

                                    Years ago a restaurant tried to introduce the 1/3 pounder. Nobody wanted to buy it as they thought a 1/4 pounder was bigger. Because 4 is bigger than 3. I wish I were making this up. Can you expect a population to accept metric over inch when those kinds of issues are going on? Also, there are millions of feet of imperially spec'd infrastructure installed. That is never going away. The best you can hope for is some hybrid at this point.

                                    One of my ham radio hobbies is to play with antennas.
                                    For an antenna to be effective its basic dimensions are related to frequency in use. The frequency is stated in meters or hertz.
                                    Pretty much acceptable in Imperial or metric system.
                                    I have never seen a radio dial marked in "feet per second ( seconds are imperial ) " .
                                    But vast majority of US amateur radio enthusiasts measures antenna dimensions in feet and fraction of inches...memorizing some "magic numbers " formulas and struggling with adjustment in percentage ( metric ?) of fraction of feet and inches.
                                    BTW my insulin is measured in 100 units = 3 ml . go figure.

                                    And since we mentioned "culture" "anomalies"
                                    what is better a "warm pint" or "cold half a liter " ?

                                    Cheers

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                                      @fcarney said in Less People Here?:

                                      Years ago a restaurant tried to introduce the 1/3 pounder. Nobody wanted to buy it as they thought a 1/4 pounder was bigger. Because 4 is bigger than 3. I wish I were making this up. Can you expect a population to accept metric over inch when those kinds of issues are going on? Also, there are millions of feet of imperially spec'd infrastructure installed. That is never going away. The best you can hope for is some hybrid at this point.

                                      One of my ham radio hobbies is to play with antennas.
                                      For an antenna to be effective its basic dimensions are related to frequency in use. The frequency is stated in meters or hertz.
                                      Pretty much acceptable in Imperial or metric system.
                                      I have never seen a radio dial marked in "feet per second ( seconds are imperial ) " .
                                      But vast majority of US amateur radio enthusiasts measures antenna dimensions in feet and fraction of inches...memorizing some "magic numbers " formulas and struggling with adjustment in percentage ( metric ?) of fraction of feet and inches.
                                      BTW my insulin is measured in 100 units = 3 ml . go figure.

                                      And since we mentioned "culture" "anomalies"
                                      what is better a "warm pint" or "cold half a liter " ?

                                      Cheers

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                                      @AnneRanch There is nothing better on a cold and rainy day than properly heated pint with some clover and mead ;)
                                      Also, there is nothing better than cold half a liter on a warm and sunny day...

                                      (but that maybe just my Central Europe genes talking)

                                      For more information please re-read.

                                      Kind Regards,
                                      Artur

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                                        @AnneRanch There is nothing better on a cold and rainy day than properly heated pint with some clover and mead ;)
                                        Also, there is nothing better than cold half a liter on a warm and sunny day...

                                        (but that maybe just my Central Europe genes talking)

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                                        #46

                                        @artwaw said in Less People Here?:

                                        @AnneRanch There is nothing better on a cold and rainy day than properly heated pint with some clover and mead ;)
                                        Also, there is nothing better than cold half a liter on a warm and sunny day...

                                        (but that maybe just my Central Europe genes talking)

                                        Sounds a lot like "any day is good for beer" :D

                                        (Z(:^

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                                        • sierdzioS sierdzio

                                          @artwaw said in Less People Here?:

                                          @AnneRanch There is nothing better on a cold and rainy day than properly heated pint with some clover and mead ;)
                                          Also, there is nothing better than cold half a liter on a warm and sunny day...

                                          (but that maybe just my Central Europe genes talking)

                                          Sounds a lot like "any day is good for beer" :D

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                                          @sierdzio Of course it is. But when temperature drops below -10C one might want to switch to spirits.

                                          For more information please re-read.

                                          Kind Regards,
                                          Artur

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