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    jaak
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    I was thinking whether it is feasible to implement Qt over Nokia OS. But probably not, because, as you said very limited resources.

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      I would not be so sure of that. Remember that Elop even hinted such at move, and that Thiago hinted on the qt-interest mailinglist that there still is a lot of business for Qt within Nokia.

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        Thiago hinted on the qt-interest mailinglist that there still
        is a lot of business for Qt within Nokia.

        I think that means MeeGo and Symbian. Even if Nokia is moving to WP7 development of MeeGo and Symbian will still continue.

        Timo Ihamuotila from Nokia said yesterday:

        We will of course utilize the long-tail of Symbian as long
        as it gives us profitable margin," Nokia's Chief Financial
        Officer Timo Ihamuotila told a UBS Technology Conference.

        So the transition period 2011-2012 relates to product
        creation transition, not sales transition as such," he said.

        So most likely development, sales and support of Symbian will continue several years and at the same time MeeGos is still there too.

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          Ofcourse everything is possible, but I think that porting Qt to Series 40 would be a bit weird decision. If you want smartphone with Qt then there is Symbian which already has Qt.

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            Well, the comment was that Qt was "being evaluated for the feature phone line", or something like that. It could become part of the "internet for the next billion" strategy, whatever that may mean. Thiago was quite explicit in telling us that not all relevant decisions that impact the future of Qt in Nokia have been communicated publicly, but he was obviously not able to go into details. If that means a port to S40 of Qt, I don't know. It could also mean that symbian will be "degraded" to be a "feature phone" OS while only those running on WP7 will be marketed as "smart phone". It could also mean something completely different.

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              miksuh
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              bq. It could also mean that symbian will be “degraded” to be a “feature phone” OS

              Don't known how that would be possible because smart phone is not just some marketing term. Symbian is a smart phone OS no matter how you market it. If you would like to make a feature phone with Symbian then you would need to artificially criple the Symbian by making it closed system with no public native APi etc, and that does not make any sence at all.

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                jaak
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                In the earlier days when Qt was just ported to S60, there was talk regarding the feasibility of Qt on S40. But nothing has happened. So I'am pessimistic about that happening now. There is either a technical or political hurdle to it.

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                  It is possible.
                  But Nokia will not do it. Because of the least cost devices.
                  S40 series devices are least cost devices compared to S60.

                  Currently Nokia porting Qt or Qt application on limited devices.

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                    qtrahul are these Nokia's stand that they won't do it or are these your views ? :)

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                      wernt there statements, that Qt will not be used on smartphones (--> WP7,will be for symbian and MeeGo) but for other phones?

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                        are we all assuming that smart phones as they are today .. will be the end of world ...
                        just being hypothetical here ;)

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                          jaak
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                          It should be technically feasible. They already have an embedded version of Qt. So it should be possible to port it to Nokia OS. Seems they are not interested.

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                            I look at it this way, more and more number of devices will support Qt and so focus on doing stuff on Qt and explore the new mkt opportunities. Even the 150 mil+ symbian phones indicate a significant mkt presence. S40 or not, there are more than enough customers who will be out there and a country like India is vastly untapped on the mobile app front ...

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                              jaak
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                              Qt for S40 announced. So can we develop in c++ on S40 or will there only be a partial support using Qml only ? Will Qt mobility be supported ? May be it is too early to ask these. But anybody have more info ?

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                                andre
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                                Also see "this topic":http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/7011.

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                                  [quote author="chetankjain" date="1300117205"]are we all assuming that smart phones as they are today .. will be the end of world ...
                                  just being hypothetical here ;)[/quote]

                                  Exactly. Today's cutting-edge technology is tomorrow's commodity hardware.

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                                    leon.anavi
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                                    [quote author="Mika Hanhijärvi" date="1299765470"]So most likely development, sales and support of Symbian will continue several years and at the same time MeeGos is still there too.[/quote]

                                    In an "interview":http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/05/26/stephen-elop-in-china-time-for-a-challenger-mindset-video/ Stephen Elop said that Symbian will be supported “at least up to“ 2016.

                                    http://anavi.org/

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                                      Alexey Zimarev
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                                      [quote author="Jayakrishnan.M" date="1308664269"]Qt for S40 announced. So can we develop in c++ on S40 or will there only be a partial support using Qml only ? Will Qt mobility be supported ? May be it is too early to ask these. But anybody have more info ?[/quote]

                                      Where and who announced it? Do you have a URL for this announce?

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                                        jaak
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                                        [quote author="Alexey Zimarev" date="1320604236"]
                                        [quote author="Jayakrishnan.M" date="1308664269"]Qt for S40 announced. So can we develop in c++ on S40 or will there only be a partial support using Qml only ? Will Qt mobility be supported ? May be it is too early to ask these. But anybody have more info ?[/quote]

                                        Where and who announced it? Do you have a URL for this announce?
                                        [/quote]

                                        Actually what Nokia announced was Qt for next billion. S40 was what came to my mind immediately. But may be not. The next billion thing, seems some thing else. So far we have only rumors, no concrete information regarding what next billion is.

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                                          Alexey Zimarev
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                                          Yes, I have seen this next billion and also some posts immediately interpreting this as Qt for S40. But this might be something else. For example the coming feature phone will have better computing power and some light version of Symbian will run on it. Portability is nice but I think developers who seriously consider to enter this market need to look at what Nokia made available now. Also HTML apps is a good option.

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