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  • J JonexElectronic

    Hi, I am trying to open osk.exe in my qt app (Qt 5.15.2 compiled with mingw81_32) and my PC is a Windows 10 64 bits. I need to open it and be able to know when it has been closed.
    I tried a lot of options all of them using QProcess but nothing works.

    QProcess *m_process;
    
    m_process = new QProcess();
    m_process->start("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe",QStringList());
    

    also startdetached and nothing...

    QProcess::startdetached("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe",QStringList());
    

    I found a way that it open osk.exe but it is not what I am looking for

    void *was;
    Wow64DisableWow64FsRedirection (&was);
    if((int)ShellExecuteA (NULL,"open","osk.exe",NULL,NULL,SW_SHOWNORMAL) <= 32 /* OK*/ )
    {
    	return false;
    }
    Wow64RevertWow64FsRedirection (was);
    

    Any idea?

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    @JonexElectronic said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

    QProcess but nothing works.

    What does this mean? Your first example can not even compile.
    Please check the return values of the various functions and also the exit code of the process etc. See the documentation about the possible error checks.

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    • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

      @JonexElectronic said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

      QProcess but nothing works.

      What does this mean? Your first example can not even compile.
      Please check the return values of the various functions and also the exit code of the process etc. See the documentation about the possible error checks.

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      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      @Christian-Ehrlicher Sorry,

      m_process->start("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe",QStringList());
      

      Ok, I do this

      //processcontroller.h
      private slots:
          void errorProcess(QProcess::ProcessError error);
      
      //processcontroller.cpp
      void ProcessController::start()
      {
      QProcess *process = new QProcess();
      connect(process,&QProcess::errorOccurred,this, &ProcessController::errorProcess);
      process->start("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe",QStringList());
      process->waitForStarted();
      }
      void ProcessController::errorProcess (QProcess::ProcessError error)
      {
          qDebug() << error;
      }
      

      the return is QProcess::FailedToStart

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      • J JonexElectronic

        @Christian-Ehrlicher Sorry,

        m_process->start("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe",QStringList());
        

        Ok, I do this

        //processcontroller.h
        private slots:
            void errorProcess(QProcess::ProcessError error);
        
        //processcontroller.cpp
        void ProcessController::start()
        {
        QProcess *process = new QProcess();
        connect(process,&QProcess::errorOccurred,this, &ProcessController::errorProcess);
        process->start("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe",QStringList());
        process->waitForStarted();
        }
        void ProcessController::errorProcess (QProcess::ProcessError error)
        {
            qDebug() << error;
        }
        

        the return is QProcess::FailedToStart

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        @JonexElectronic Does it start if you execute C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe in a terminal?
        If osk.exe prints out errors to stdout/stderr you should also read and print those after you got the error (https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qprocess.html#readAllStandardError and https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qprocess.html#readAllStandardOutput). Maybe it will give you more information about the reason for osk.exe not starting.

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        • jsulmJ jsulm

          @JonexElectronic Does it start if you execute C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe in a terminal?
          If osk.exe prints out errors to stdout/stderr you should also read and print those after you got the error (https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qprocess.html#readAllStandardError and https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qprocess.html#readAllStandardOutput). Maybe it will give you more information about the reason for osk.exe not starting.

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          @jsulm said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

          C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe

          Yes, It is
          d44d6858-7124-4e39-bdf0-aa2dc7a2d3a1-image.png
          I did what you said

          void ProcessController::errorProcess(QProcess::ProcessError error)
          {
              if (error == QProcess::FailedToStart)
              {
                  QByteArray errorOutput = process ->readAllStandardError();
                  qDebug() << "Error:" << errorOutput;
                  QByteArray standarOutput = process ->readAllStandardOutput();
                  qDebug() << "Standard:" << standarOutput;
              }
          }
          

          And nothing ..

          Error: ""
          Standard: ""
          
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          • J JonexElectronic

            @jsulm said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

            C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe

            Yes, It is
            d44d6858-7124-4e39-bdf0-aa2dc7a2d3a1-image.png
            I did what you said

            void ProcessController::errorProcess(QProcess::ProcessError error)
            {
                if (error == QProcess::FailedToStart)
                {
                    QByteArray errorOutput = process ->readAllStandardError();
                    qDebug() << "Error:" << errorOutput;
                    QByteArray standarOutput = process ->readAllStandardOutput();
                    qDebug() << "Standard:" << standarOutput;
                }
            }
            

            And nothing ..

            Error: ""
            Standard: ""
            
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            #6

            @JonexElectronic
            This may not be relevant, but are you building a 32- or 64-bit executable?

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            • JonBJ JonB

              @JonexElectronic
              This may not be relevant, but are you building a 32- or 64-bit executable?

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              wrote on last edited by JonexElectronic
              #7

              @JonB I am building a 32 bit executable on a 64 bit windows. I said in my first message Qt 5.15.2 compiled with mingw81_32. It must be relevant because If I start a new qt Pro but compiled to 64 bit at least startdetached works but start and execute dont. But any of those methods works in 32 bits

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                Then maybe a 32 bit app can't start a 64 bit executable with QProcess - try to start other executables - 32 and 64 bit ones to see if this assumption is correct.

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                • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                  Then maybe a 32 bit app can't start a 64 bit executable with QProcess - try to start other executables - 32 and 64 bit ones to see if this assumption is correct.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @Christian-Ehrlicher so there is no possible solution??

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                  • J JonexElectronic

                    @JonB I am building a 32 bit executable on a 64 bit windows. I said in my first message Qt 5.15.2 compiled with mingw81_32. It must be relevant because If I start a new qt Pro but compiled to 64 bit at least startdetached works but start and execute dont. But any of those methods works in 32 bits

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                    wrote on last edited by JonB
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                    @JonexElectronic
                    @Christian-Ehrlicher has posted the sort of thing I was thinking of. I'm not an expert, but issues with 32- vs 64-bit stuff under Windows. Also I *wonder& whether system32 is an issue here....

                    • Start with a QFileInfo::exists() on "C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe" from within the Qt application, what does it say?

                    • Try something else there similar, like Notepad.exe, I think that's in system32 too? Does that work?

                    start()/execute() require, I think, that it can get something to wait on. I'm not sure whether that works between 32- to 64-bit, might be an issue. startDetached() might be a better choice here/for external GUI programs.

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                    • J JonexElectronic

                      @Christian-Ehrlicher so there is no possible solution??

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                      wrote on last edited by JonB
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                      @JonexElectronic said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

                      @Christian-Ehrlicher so there is no possible solution??

                      Start by doing some more investigations of your own per my previous post before you know where you are going....

                      Also one thing to try maybe is

                      process->start("cmd.exe", QStringList() << "/c" << "C:\\Windows\\System32\\osk.exe");
                      
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                      • J JonexElectronic

                        @jsulm said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

                        C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe

                        Yes, It is
                        d44d6858-7124-4e39-bdf0-aa2dc7a2d3a1-image.png
                        I did what you said

                        void ProcessController::errorProcess(QProcess::ProcessError error)
                        {
                            if (error == QProcess::FailedToStart)
                            {
                                QByteArray errorOutput = process ->readAllStandardError();
                                qDebug() << "Error:" << errorOutput;
                                QByteArray standarOutput = process ->readAllStandardOutput();
                                qDebug() << "Standard:" << standarOutput;
                            }
                        }
                        

                        And nothing ..

                        Error: ""
                        Standard: ""
                        
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                        @JonexElectronic The only idea I have now is to check Windows logs (you can do that using mmc tool) - maybe there are some hints.

                        https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                        • JonBJ JonB

                          @JonexElectronic
                          @Christian-Ehrlicher has posted the sort of thing I was thinking of. I'm not an expert, but issues with 32- vs 64-bit stuff under Windows. Also I *wonder& whether system32 is an issue here....

                          • Start with a QFileInfo::exists() on "C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe" from within the Qt application, what does it say?

                          • Try something else there similar, like Notepad.exe, I think that's in system32 too? Does that work?

                          start()/execute() require, I think, that it can get something to wait on. I'm not sure whether that works between 32- to 64-bit, might be an issue. startDetached() might be a better choice here/for external GUI programs.

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                          @JonB said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

                          Start with a QFileInfo::exists() on "C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe" from within the Qt application, what does it say?

                          qDebug() << "Exist osk?" <<QFileInfo::exists("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe");
                          

                          It sais false, ¿Why? I check it, and it exist
                          I tried

                          QDir directory("C:/Windows/System32");
                          QFileInfoList info =directory.entryInfoList();
                          

                          it gives me
                          3a31e48f-990e-4f11-8475-dc064c3ba29a-image.png
                          but I have
                          c68ef905-fdc5-4e44-89e1-b44dcd99f2db-image.png
                          any idea why qt omit some files? I didnt find osk.exe on my QFileInfoList info;
                          but yes I found notepad.exe

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                          • J JonexElectronic

                            @JonB said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

                            Start with a QFileInfo::exists() on "C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe" from within the Qt application, what does it say?

                            qDebug() << "Exist osk?" <<QFileInfo::exists("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe");
                            

                            It sais false, ¿Why? I check it, and it exist
                            I tried

                            QDir directory("C:/Windows/System32");
                            QFileInfoList info =directory.entryInfoList();
                            

                            it gives me
                            3a31e48f-990e-4f11-8475-dc064c3ba29a-image.png
                            but I have
                            c68ef905-fdc5-4e44-89e1-b44dcd99f2db-image.png
                            any idea why qt omit some files? I didnt find osk.exe on my QFileInfoList info;
                            but yes I found notepad.exe

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                            #14

                            I found anothe osk.exe on my pc that is in

                            C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-osk_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.19041.1_none_60ade0eff94c37fc/osk.exe
                            

                            and it works with QProcess::startDetached on my 32 bits app but not with process->start... I need to know when this app is close. Maybe I can use the pid returned on startdetached and set a timer to ask every second, but this method dont looks good...
                            any to detect when this app is closed?

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                            • J JonexElectronic

                              @JonB said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

                              Start with a QFileInfo::exists() on "C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe" from within the Qt application, what does it say?

                              qDebug() << "Exist osk?" <<QFileInfo::exists("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe");
                              

                              It sais false, ¿Why? I check it, and it exist
                              I tried

                              QDir directory("C:/Windows/System32");
                              QFileInfoList info =directory.entryInfoList();
                              

                              it gives me
                              3a31e48f-990e-4f11-8475-dc064c3ba29a-image.png
                              but I have
                              c68ef905-fdc5-4e44-89e1-b44dcd99f2db-image.png
                              any idea why qt omit some files? I didnt find osk.exe on my QFileInfoList info;
                              but yes I found notepad.exe

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                              @JonexElectronic said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

                              It sais false, ¿Why? I check it, and it exist

                              This is what I suspected might be the case. Basically because your Qt application is 32-bit. Then C:\Windows\System32 does not contain what you think it contains when you look from a 64-bit application.

                              I believe this is the root of your problem.

                              In a word, if you made your Qt application be 64- instead of 32-bit I think all would be well. Have you considered doing this? 32-bit programs are going out of fashion now....

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                                @JonexElectronic said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

                                It sais false, ¿Why? I check it, and it exist

                                This is what I suspected might be the case. Basically because your Qt application is 32-bit. Then C:\Windows\System32 does not contain what you think it contains when you look from a 64-bit application.

                                I believe this is the root of your problem.

                                In a word, if you made your Qt application be 64- instead of 32-bit I think all would be well. Have you considered doing this? 32-bit programs are going out of fashion now....

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                                #16

                                @JonB Yes, I have considered moving to 64-bit. But I also use other 32-bit libraries in my program and transitioning everything to 64-bit is too much work at the moment. Anyway, I've tried starting osk.exe with the start method in a new Qt project, but it doesn't work. It only works with startDetached.

                                QProcess *process;
                                .....
                                process=new QProcess();
                                process->start("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe",QStringList());
                                
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                                • J JonexElectronic

                                  @JonB Yes, I have considered moving to 64-bit. But I also use other 32-bit libraries in my program and transitioning everything to 64-bit is too much work at the moment. Anyway, I've tried starting osk.exe with the start method in a new Qt project, but it doesn't work. It only works with startDetached.

                                  QProcess *process;
                                  .....
                                  process=new QProcess();
                                  process->start("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe",QStringList());
                                  
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                                  @JonexElectronic said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

                                  It only works with startDetached.

                                  That does not particularly surprise me. Again I suspect this is an issue about running a 64-bit application from a 32-bit one. And so long as QFileInfo::exists("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe") returns false from your 32-bit app I don't know what you expect to work.

                                  Do you really care about start() instead of startDetached() anyway?

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                                  • JonBJ JonB

                                    @JonexElectronic said in Problem with QProcess trying to open my On-Screen Keyboard (osk.exe):

                                    It only works with startDetached.

                                    That does not particularly surprise me. Again I suspect this is an issue about running a 64-bit application from a 32-bit one. And so long as QFileInfo::exists("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe") returns false from your 32-bit app I don't know what you expect to work.

                                    Do you really care about start() instead of startDetached() anyway?

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                                    #18

                                    @JonB Sorry I forgot to say that it happens in a new 64-bit app not in my 32-bit app.
                                    And

                                    QFileInfo::exists("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe")
                                    

                                    returns true

                                    And yes I really care about start because I need to know when this process has finished

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                                    • J JonexElectronic

                                      @JonB Sorry I forgot to say that it happens in a new 64-bit app not in my 32-bit app.
                                      And

                                      QFileInfo::exists("C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe")
                                      

                                      returns true

                                      And yes I really care about start because I need to know when this process has finished

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                                      @JonexElectronic

                                      Hello!

                                      As an option, you can try to disable the Wow64EnableWow64FsRedirection function from WinAPI (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wow64apiset/nf-wow64apiset-wow64enablewow64fsredirection), run your C:/Windows/System32/osk.exe process and re-enable it again.
                                      Description: This function is useful for 32-bit applications that want to gain access to the native system32 directory. By default, WOW64 file system redirection is enabled.
                                      It could work in your case.

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