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  • K koahnig

    @JonB said in Since when did you start QT?:

    What you might learn from some of us oldies, however, is that it is quite usual to get more grumpy/irritable as you age....

    ;) :D rofl

    Is there already a blog called "The grumpy programmer"?
    If not, maybe we should start it.

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    Is there already a blog called "The grumpy programmer"?
    If not, maybe we should start it.

    It would never work...the mods would delete every post for being too annoying...

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      Is there already a blog called "The grumpy programmer"?
      If not, maybe we should start it.

      It would never work...the mods would delete every post for being too annoying...

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      @mzimmers said in Since when did you start QT?:

      Is there already a blog called "The grumpy programmer"?
      If not, maybe we should start it.

      It would never work...the mods would delete every post for being too annoying...

      It may work, if we pretend to be cats?

      Vote the answer(s) that helped you to solve your issue(s)

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        @mzimmers said in Since when did you start QT?:

        Is there already a blog called "The grumpy programmer"?
        If not, maybe we should start it.

        It would never work...the mods would delete every post for being too annoying...

        It may work, if we pretend to be cats?

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        @koahnig said in Since when did you start QT?:

        It may work, if we pretend to be cats?

        ^^ flagged for being annoying.

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          I do not believe "annoying" is the right word.
          Us old farts value our time ( we got grad-kids and "honey do this and honey do that " ) and when I ask "how much is one plus one "
          and get a lecture about binary system
          it gets to the point of limiting participation ( see the post about "why are less people here " ) .
          It seem that "educators" value "I do not know the answer, but I know where is a pile of rocks" approach.
          Another "annoying " approach seem to be norm - do not known how to fix it so let's buy a new one.

          If I could influence anybody - choosing software "development" as a life-time carrier - ( getting of subject ) - most of the "cool stuff" has been coded and some "learning curves" are no more then of ever increasing speed of "down spirals " .

          "Choose wisely .... grasshopper ..."

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            @Thank-You said in Since when did you start QT?:
            

            Just wanted to know
            When did you people start learning QT?
            I have started it 53 days ago
            please add your experience before learning QT.
            Before Qt I just thing that creating GUI projects are difficult but I found it easier than using graphics.h header file in c++

            Aren't you attracted by other easy frameworks (although they are not in c++) LIKE
            FLUTTER , REACT NATIVE , DELPHI, C++ BUILDER (not easy but alternative), Ionic etc.
            Nope, It is my first framework and before it i Just only know c,c++,data structure and creates project in the only
            I have published them in my Channel If you want to check my experience before you can see the project and identify me...
            https://youtu.be/F-55d7TX-aM

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            • Thank YouT Thank You

              Just wanted to know
              When did you peoples started learning QT ? Please mention your age when you started programming too. 😂😂
              please add your experience before learning QT.

              Aren't you attracted by other easy frameworks (although they are not in c++) LIKE
              FLUTTER , REACT NATIVE , DELPHI , C++ BUILDER (not easy but alternative) , Ionic etc.

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              @Thank-You said in Since when did you start QT?:

              When did you peoples started learning QT ?

              In uni, somewhere about 2007-2008. Physics is dry and tiring so I benefited from having a "safe place" (yes, it is sarcasm).
              At that point I had a significant understanding of C++ already, which made cruising through Qt a pleasure.

              Please mention your age when you started programming too. 😂😂

              10th grade or thereabouts - circa 2003.

              please add your experience before learning QT.

              A couple of projects or so, a few hobby/learning ones.

              Aren't you attracted by other easy frameworks (although they are not in c++) LIKE
              FLUTTER , REACT NATIVE , DELPHI , C++ BUILDER (not easy but alternative) , Ionic etc.

              Nope.

              Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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              • kshegunovK kshegunov

                @Thank-You said in Since when did you start QT?:

                When did you peoples started learning QT ?

                In uni, somewhere about 2007-2008. Physics is dry and tiring so I benefited from having a "safe place" (yes, it is sarcasm).
                At that point I had a significant understanding of C++ already, which made cruising through Qt a pleasure.

                Please mention your age when you started programming too. 😂😂

                10th grade or thereabouts - circa 2003.

                please add your experience before learning QT.

                A couple of projects or so, a few hobby/learning ones.

                Aren't you attracted by other easy frameworks (although they are not in c++) LIKE
                FLUTTER , REACT NATIVE , DELPHI , C++ BUILDER (not easy but alternative) , Ionic etc.

                Nope.

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                Hi

                • When did you peoples started learning QT ?
                  22 SEPT 2014
                  Made an account and downloaded Qt.

                • Please mention your age when you started programming too. 😂😂
                  around 14-15. i think its more than 30 years ago.

                • please add your experience before learning QT.

                a little asm, pure c, borland C++ in DOS. then OWL (borland framework)
                in Windows for workgroups.
                Then Delphi for 5 years win 95 and up
                c++ builder. ( i loved it)
                Tons of Visual basic until they ruined it with their "managed" shit.
                I use still something called Kylix which is c++ Builder for linux.
                Many different types of project. Much info system and desktop publishing
                systems.

                -- Aren't you attracted by other easy frameworks (although they are not in c++) LIKE
                -- FLUTTER , REACT NATIVE , DELPHI , C++ BUILDER (not easy but alternative) , Ionic etc.

                Well yes for the web generation. I tried FLUTTER and was so disappointed as its "state of the art"
                and dont even contain a wysiwyg editor and to top it off they used a new language called Dart.
                Like the world needed yet another one. Made some web services even it was not called that back then :)

                If I could not use Qt , i would use C++ builder. It's extremely rich and its data controls is the best i ever used.
                I also like Delphi but its pascal language feels strange now.

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                • mrjjM mrjj

                  Hi

                  • When did you peoples started learning QT ?
                    22 SEPT 2014
                    Made an account and downloaded Qt.

                  • Please mention your age when you started programming too. 😂😂
                    around 14-15. i think its more than 30 years ago.

                  • please add your experience before learning QT.

                  a little asm, pure c, borland C++ in DOS. then OWL (borland framework)
                  in Windows for workgroups.
                  Then Delphi for 5 years win 95 and up
                  c++ builder. ( i loved it)
                  Tons of Visual basic until they ruined it with their "managed" shit.
                  I use still something called Kylix which is c++ Builder for linux.
                  Many different types of project. Much info system and desktop publishing
                  systems.

                  -- Aren't you attracted by other easy frameworks (although they are not in c++) LIKE
                  -- FLUTTER , REACT NATIVE , DELPHI , C++ BUILDER (not easy but alternative) , Ionic etc.

                  Well yes for the web generation. I tried FLUTTER and was so disappointed as its "state of the art"
                  and dont even contain a wysiwyg editor and to top it off they used a new language called Dart.
                  Like the world needed yet another one. Made some web services even it was not called that back then :)

                  If I could not use Qt , i would use C++ builder. It's extremely rich and its data controls is the best i ever used.
                  I also like Delphi but its pascal language feels strange now.

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                  I feel soo blessed to get reply from you guys.
                  I thought you were like of 20-25 Oh ! man , You guys are almost two times of that 😁😁
                  @JonB
                  You guys have tons of experience So I can learn many many thing from you guys.
                  Like coding style I am at my late teens So there is much to gooooo


                  And it's always easy to go in path that you suggested So You all are very helpful.
                  I use to ask questions in stack overflow but used to get bad comments instead of getting answer. Later found QT forum

                  So Switched to QT

                  Found it interesting. If there is mistake also here You would suggest me. And most important you guys are not rude.

                  I learned about markdown today So did some stylings in the text 🤣🤣🤣🤣

                  Let's make QT free or It will go forever

                  TRUE AND FALSE <3

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                    I feel soo blessed to get reply from you guys.
                    I thought you were like of 20-25 Oh ! man , You guys are almost two times of that 😁😁
                    @JonB
                    You guys have tons of experience So I can learn many many thing from you guys.
                    Like coding style I am at my late teens So there is much to gooooo


                    And it's always easy to go in path that you suggested So You all are very helpful.
                    I use to ask questions in stack overflow but used to get bad comments instead of getting answer. Later found QT forum

                    So Switched to QT

                    Found it interesting. If there is mistake also here You would suggest me. And most important you guys are not rude.

                    I learned about markdown today So did some stylings in the text 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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                    @Thank-You said in Since when did you start QT?:

                    You guys have tons of experience So I can learn many many thing from you guys.

                    My best advice is:
                    "Don't be lazy, write clean consistent readable code."
                    otherwise you're going to be setting yourself up for failure, or at the very least creating unnecessary trouble for yourself. Always keep in mind that code is read much more than it's written, and the guy that's going to read it most of the time is going to be you.

                    I thought you were like of 20-25Oh ! man , You guys are almost two times of that 😁😁

                    Yeah, we are late bloomers ;P

                    Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                      @Thank-You said in Since when did you start QT?:

                      You guys have tons of experience So I can learn many many thing from you guys.

                      My best advice is:
                      "Don't be lazy, write clean consistent readable code."
                      otherwise you're going to be setting yourself up for failure, or at the very least creating unnecessary trouble for yourself. Always keep in mind that code is read much more than it's written, and the guy that's going to read it most of the time is going to be you.

                      I thought you were like of 20-25Oh ! man , You guys are almost two times of that 😁😁

                      Yeah, we are late bloomers ;P

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                      @kshegunov
                      I actually got lesson on writing maintainable code by making one big project. But I am not sure the code is clean or not. It is learning process So I hope to be good at it.

                      very least creating unnecessary trouble for yourself.

                      Yes I got into huge trouble at some point while doing project 😂😂😃 Later got some advice. I am learning form this forum. Before I just used to code and ask question if I stuck in problem. I was just scrolling one day and I found many interesting new questions and much here. So now I am active most of the day in this forum. (not always seeing codes but just checking time to time)
                      Again We can learn from you guys

                      Let's make QT free or It will go forever

                      TRUE AND FALSE <3

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                      • kshegunovK kshegunov

                        @Thank-You said in Since when did you start QT?:

                        You guys have tons of experience So I can learn many many thing from you guys.

                        My best advice is:
                        "Don't be lazy, write clean consistent readable code."
                        otherwise you're going to be setting yourself up for failure, or at the very least creating unnecessary trouble for yourself. Always keep in mind that code is read much more than it's written, and the guy that's going to read it most of the time is going to be you.

                        I thought you were like of 20-25Oh ! man , You guys are almost two times of that 😁😁

                        Yeah, we are late bloomers ;P

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                        @kshegunov said in Since when did you start QT?:

                        "Don't be lazy, write clean consistent readable code."

                        Terrible advice!
                        I wrote an entire app (functionality and gui) to manage a business function for my previous employer in a single class. The code is a mess and it is virtually unreadable.
                        I still get calls from time to time to fix bugs/implement new features for a fee.
                        Clean code = no money to be made 😝

                        "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                        ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                        On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                        • VRoninV VRonin

                          @kshegunov said in Since when did you start QT?:

                          "Don't be lazy, write clean consistent readable code."

                          Terrible advice!
                          I wrote an entire app (functionality and gui) to manage a business function for my previous employer in a single class. The code is a mess and it is virtually unreadable.
                          I still get calls from time to time to fix bugs/implement new features for a fee.
                          Clean code = no money to be made 😝

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                          @VRonin I didn't know you worked for Microsoft...

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                            @kshegunov said in Since when did you start QT?:

                            "Don't be lazy, write clean consistent readable code."

                            Terrible advice!
                            I wrote an entire app (functionality and gui) to manage a business function for my previous employer in a single class. The code is a mess and it is virtually unreadable.
                            I still get calls from time to time to fix bugs/implement new features for a fee.
                            Clean code = no money to be made 😝

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                            @VRonin Out of subject , but as a curiosity question.
                            On your next job interview - did you show that "job security gem "to your prospective employer ?
                            (Did you get hired ?)
                            Yes, wast majority of code "for free" is written following your philosophy.
                            Including most Qt examples which is a bad advertisement for the company - my opinion.

                            I actually believe ( sarcasm) that there is an SECRET app to "remove all comments from MY code "- so it can be published !

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                              @VRonin Out of subject , but as a curiosity question.
                              On your next job interview - did you show that "job security gem "to your prospective employer ?
                              (Did you get hired ?)
                              Yes, wast majority of code "for free" is written following your philosophy.
                              Including most Qt examples which is a bad advertisement for the company - my opinion.

                              I actually believe ( sarcasm) that there is an SECRET app to "remove all comments from MY code "- so it can be published !

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                              @AnneRanch said in Since when did you start QT?:

                              On your next job interview - did you show that "job security gem "to your prospective employer ?
                              (Did you get hired ?)

                              It clearly was to be taken as a humorous reply. I'm not a developer. I was given a task that was done by hand with high probability of human error, time waste and high cost of failure (it involved hedging financial risks), I automated it with an application that did everything by pressing a button. The company liked it and adopted it as a standard across the firm. Since then they hired a proper IT/dev department with 0 knowledge of C/C++ so they can't maintain the repo.
                              I still call it a success story for my employer that got a free IT upgrade.

                              Yes, wast majority of code "for free" is written following your philosophy.

                              This is objectively untrue and unfair to the plethora of high quality projects out there. Think: Linux, PostrgreSQL, Libre Office, Firefox, etc. (I could go on for days)

                              Including most Qt examples which is a bad advertisement for the company - my opinion.

                              If you are complaining about the Qt documentation/examples you have been spoiled. My experience is that "it's a jungle out there". Take boost for example, the most popular C++ library, docs and examples are "an adventure" to go through and I won't even start commenting on anything on MSDN

                              "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                              ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                              On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                                @AnneRanch said in Since when did you start QT?:

                                On your next job interview - did you show that "job security gem "to your prospective employer ?
                                (Did you get hired ?)

                                It clearly was to be taken as a humorous reply. I'm not a developer. I was given a task that was done by hand with high probability of human error, time waste and high cost of failure (it involved hedging financial risks), I automated it with an application that did everything by pressing a button. The company liked it and adopted it as a standard across the firm. Since then they hired a proper IT/dev department with 0 knowledge of C/C++ so they can't maintain the repo.
                                I still call it a success story for my employer that got a free IT upgrade.

                                Yes, wast majority of code "for free" is written following your philosophy.

                                This is objectively untrue and unfair to the plethora of high quality projects out there. Think: Linux, PostrgreSQL, Libre Office, Firefox, etc. (I could go on for days)

                                Including most Qt examples which is a bad advertisement for the company - my opinion.

                                If you are complaining about the Qt documentation/examples you have been spoiled. My experience is that "it's a jungle out there". Take boost for example, the most popular C++ library, docs and examples are "an adventure" to go through and I won't even start commenting on anything on MSDN

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                                @VRonin said in Since when did you start QT?:

                                and I won't even start commenting on anything on MSDN

                                Many years ago I somehow received several books , published by Microsoft.
                                I honestly do not recall what it was al about (MFC ?) , but distinctly remember reading something to the effect " this function may or may not work..."
                                Since it was before paper recycling the whole set went to the landfill IMMEDIATELY.
                                However, I am against hijacking threads - so this will be my LAST off- topic contribution here.
                                ( I MAY start "to comment or not to comment " thread......)

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                                  I started learning Qt this year, like few months ago!, I'm currently 16 and started 'actual' coding last year(C++), currently with Qt I've worked with SQL, and been exposed to JavaScript, i wasn't really interested in Qt, i just started it to pass time while waiting to get a PC that can handle Unreal Engine for GameDev which was my reason for learning C++ in the first place but now Qt seems nice to me and not even sure if i should stick with it for now or somehow do both for now or start Unreal fully when i get the PC because i will hopefully be getting the new PC soon(just waiting on GPU), oh and i'm not interested in any other thing apart from GameDev and Qt/QtQuick at the moment

                                  Ningen

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                                  • PadawanP Padawan

                                    I started learning Qt this year, like few months ago!, I'm currently 16 and started 'actual' coding last year(C++), currently with Qt I've worked with SQL, and been exposed to JavaScript, i wasn't really interested in Qt, i just started it to pass time while waiting to get a PC that can handle Unreal Engine for GameDev which was my reason for learning C++ in the first place but now Qt seems nice to me and not even sure if i should stick with it for now or somehow do both for now or start Unreal fully when i get the PC because i will hopefully be getting the new PC soon(just waiting on GPU), oh and i'm not interested in any other thing apart from GameDev and Qt/QtQuick at the moment

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                                    @Padawan said in Since when did you start QT?:

                                    I'm currently 16

                                    Great Caesar's ghost...I'm nearly 4 times your age.

                                    If I didn't already feel old and obsolete...this definitely corked it...

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                                      @Padawan said in Since when did you start QT?:

                                      I'm currently 16

                                      Great Caesar's ghost...I'm nearly 4 times your age.

                                      If I didn't already feel old and obsolete...this definitely corked it...

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                                      @mzimmers well you have years of coding experience compared to my measly experience, i'm a bit confused tho if i should just put all these on hold and go into Data Structures and Algo and have a decent knowledge on them and then come back here because i dont want to depend on going to college for that because i don't have a lot of value for the education here(West Africa)

                                      Ningen

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                                        because having knowledge on all these complex data structures and algorithm looks really nice to have

                                        Ningen

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                                          @Padawan said in Since when did you start QT?:

                                          I'm currently 16

                                          Great Caesar's ghost...I'm nearly 4 times your age.

                                          If I didn't already feel old and obsolete...this definitely corked it...

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                                          #49

                                          In this age, Most disgusting thing is Dilemma.
                                          Like there are many stacks and you see peoples using different things.

                                          You see Python popularity , You wanted to learn that
                                          Again About C++ , Oh! Great Speed I want to learn this
                                          Flutter, Oh! wow , mobile development. Easy way to attract peoples
                                          Javascript , Easy for web and most no. of peoples in it

                                          And more
                                          Like If I learn C++
                                          Then there are option
                                          WxWidgets
                                          QT
                                          and much more

                                          One person says
                                          "This is one very bad, See how this one is beautiful framework"
                                          Another says:
                                          "This is very easy. You can earn money easily"

                                          I am at late 18 now

                                          First I learned C++ because I didn't have that good computer to learn python using Good IDE. (now I know there are IDE that are lightweight too)
                                          Learned C++ .
                                          Again I saw peoples creating websites
                                          That seems interesting, So I learned HTML CSS
                                          Later learned Javascript

                                          Again I feel creating Desktop application would be great because There is nothing productive just with Plain C++ (not early)
                                          So learned QT
                                          In between these ,
                                          I learned MYSQL

                                          Later I thought NODEJS
                                          I will create fullstack Site with node js
                                          And more more on all

                                          Guys What suggestions would you give me guys???
                                          @mzimmers
                                          @jsulm @mrjj @AnneRanch @kshegunov @VRonin @JonB @SGaist @sierdzio
                                          I really need your thoughts on this 😅😪😪😪😭😭😭😢
                                          Like It is sooooooooooooooo bad that I haven't earned any money with 2.5 years of programming.

                                          My two projects are going on, One WEBSITE
                                          AND another Desktop Application with QT

                                          Should I create new one or Is it ok to continue in this one?

                                          Let's make QT free or It will go forever

                                          TRUE AND FALSE <3

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