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  • JKSHJ JKSH

    @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

    I meant the trace from QT_FATAL_WARNINGS, so we could see what was called leading to the mentioned warning.

    Nothing useful from GDB:

    1 qt_message_fatal(QtMsgType, QMessageLogContext const&, QString const&) [clone .isra.4]   0x68e23630 
    2 ??                                                                                       0x3121a30  
    

    @JKSH said in QApplication in std::thread:

    When main() is about to return, the program tries to unload the timer. But the unloading is done by the main() thread, not the Qt thread. Hence the complaint, "QObject::~QObject: Timers cannot be stopped from another thread".

    I really doubt this as the runtime doesn't run your destructors automatically.

    I don't have a better explanation for this. Do you?:

    #include <QApplication>
    #include <QPushButton>
    #include <QDebug>
    #include <chrono>
    #include <thread>
    
    int main(int argc, char *argv[])
    {
        std::thread thr([&]
        {
            QApplication a(argc, argv);
            QPushButton btn("Push");
            btn.show();
            a.exec();
    
            qDebug("Event loop stopped");
        });
    
        // Play with the QPushButton within the next 5 seconds
        using namespace std::chrono_literals;
        std::this_thread::sleep_for(5000ms);
    
        QMetaObject::invokeMethod(qApp, &QApplication::quit);
        thr.join();
        qDebug("Thread stopped");
    
        std::this_thread::sleep_for(5000ms);
        qDebug("Waiting, waiting...");
        
        std::this_thread::sleep_for(5000ms);
        qDebug("Program shutting down");
    }
    

    The output sequence is:

    1. (Pause 5s)
    2. "Event loop stopped"
    3. "Thread stopped"
    4. (Pause 5s)
    5. "Waiting, waiting..."
    6. (Pause 5s)
    7. "Program shutting down"
    8. "QObject::~QObject: Timers cannot be stopped from another thread"

    If you don't interact with the button, then #8 doesn't appear. No difference if qDebug is switched to std::cout with flush.

    In any case if that is the case, then it's a bug in the push button, which should be posted on the tracker.

    QPushButton's timers aren't alone.

    For example, the global QPixmapCache object hangs around after the destruction of QApplication too.

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    @JKSH this actually crashes for me on btn.show()

    1  __pthread_kill                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib                                                0x7fff2030d462 
    2  pthread_kill                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib                                               0x7fff2033b610 
    3  abort                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_c.dylib                                                     0x7fff2028e720 
    4  abort_message                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff20300418 
    5  demangling_terminate_handler()                                                                                                                                                                                                                            (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff202f1a7d 
    6  _objc_terminate()                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         (x86_64h) /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib                                                             0x7fff201e79b1 
    7  std::__terminate(void ( *)())                                                                                                                                                                                                                             (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff202ff847 
    8  __cxxabiv1::failed_throw(__cxxabiv1::__cxa_exception *)                                                                                                                                                                                                   (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff20302167 
    9  __cxa_throw                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff2030212e 
    10 objc_exception_throw                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (x86_64h) /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib                                                             0x7fff201e54f7 
    11 -[NSException raise]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (x86_64h) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation        0x7fff204d5a9a 
    12 -[NSWindow(NSWindow_Theme) _postWindowNeedsToResetDragMarginsUnlessPostingDisabled]                                                                                                                                                                       (x86_64) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit                         0x7fff22c7597d 
    13 -[NSWindow _initContent:styleMask:backing:defer:contentView:]                                                                                                                                                                                             (x86_64) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit                         0x7fff22c606d5 
    14 -[NSWindow initWithContentRect:styleMask:backing:defer:]                                                                                                                                                                                                  (x86_64) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit                         0x7fff22c6016f 
    15 -[NSWindow initWithContentRect:styleMask:backing:defer:screen:]                                                                                                                                                                                           (x86_64) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit                         0x7fff22f6a2c8 
    16 -[QNSWindow initWithContentRect:styleMask:backing:defer:screen:platformWindow:]                                                                                                                                                                           (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib                 0x10b335725    
    17 QCocoaWindow::createNSWindow(bool)                                                                                                                                                                                                                        (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib                 0x10b322cac    
    18 QCocoaWindow::recreateWindowIfNeeded()                                                                                                                                                                                                                    (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib                 0x10b31c672    
    19 QCocoaWindow::initialize()                                                                                                                                                                                                                                (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib                 0x10b31c0fe    
    20 QWindowPrivate::create(bool, unsigned long long)                                                                                                                                                                                                          (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/lib/QtGui.framework/Versions/5/QtGui              0x1007aceb7    
    21 QWidgetPrivate::create()                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/lib/QtWidgets.framework/Versions/5/QtWidgets      0x10016c771    
    22 QWidget::create(unsigned long long, bool, bool)                                                                                                                                                                                                           (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/lib/QtWidgets.framework/Versions/5/QtWidgets      0x10016b414    
    23 QWidgetPrivate::setVisible(bool)                                                                                                                                                                                                                          (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/lib/QtWidgets.framework/Versions/5/QtWidgets      0x10017e81d    
    24 main::$_0::operator()() const                                                                                                                                                                                                                             main.cpp                                                                                  13   0x100006538    
    25 decltype(std::forward<main::$_0>(fp)()) std::__invoke<main::$_0>(main::$_0&&)                                                                                                                                                                             type_traits                                                                               3545 0x10000647d    
    26 void std::__thread_execute<std::unique_ptr<std::__thread_struct, std::default_delete<std::__thread_struct>>, main::$_0>(std::tuple<std::unique_ptr<std::__thread_struct, std::default_delete<std::__thread_struct>>, main::$_0>&, std::__tuple_indices<>) thread                                                                                    273  0x1000063e5    
    27 void * std::__thread_proxy<std::tuple<std::unique_ptr<std::__thread_struct, std::default_delete<std::__thread_struct>>, main::$_0>>(void *)                                                                                                               thread                                                                                    284  0x100005c16    
    28 _pthread_start                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib                                               0x7fff2033b950 
    29 thread_start                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib                                               0x7fff2033747b 
    
    

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    • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

      @JKSH this actually crashes for me on btn.show()

      1  __pthread_kill                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib                                                0x7fff2030d462 
      2  pthread_kill                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib                                               0x7fff2033b610 
      3  abort                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_c.dylib                                                     0x7fff2028e720 
      4  abort_message                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff20300418 
      5  demangling_terminate_handler()                                                                                                                                                                                                                            (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff202f1a7d 
      6  _objc_terminate()                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         (x86_64h) /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib                                                             0x7fff201e79b1 
      7  std::__terminate(void ( *)())                                                                                                                                                                                                                             (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff202ff847 
      8  __cxxabiv1::failed_throw(__cxxabiv1::__cxa_exception *)                                                                                                                                                                                                   (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff20302167 
      9  __cxa_throw                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               (x86_64) /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib                                                              0x7fff2030212e 
      10 objc_exception_throw                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (x86_64h) /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib                                                             0x7fff201e54f7 
      11 -[NSException raise]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (x86_64h) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation        0x7fff204d5a9a 
      12 -[NSWindow(NSWindow_Theme) _postWindowNeedsToResetDragMarginsUnlessPostingDisabled]                                                                                                                                                                       (x86_64) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit                         0x7fff22c7597d 
      13 -[NSWindow _initContent:styleMask:backing:defer:contentView:]                                                                                                                                                                                             (x86_64) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit                         0x7fff22c606d5 
      14 -[NSWindow initWithContentRect:styleMask:backing:defer:]                                                                                                                                                                                                  (x86_64) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit                         0x7fff22c6016f 
      15 -[NSWindow initWithContentRect:styleMask:backing:defer:screen:]                                                                                                                                                                                           (x86_64) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit                         0x7fff22f6a2c8 
      16 -[QNSWindow initWithContentRect:styleMask:backing:defer:screen:platformWindow:]                                                                                                                                                                           (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib                 0x10b335725    
      17 QCocoaWindow::createNSWindow(bool)                                                                                                                                                                                                                        (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib                 0x10b322cac    
      18 QCocoaWindow::recreateWindowIfNeeded()                                                                                                                                                                                                                    (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib                 0x10b31c672    
      19 QCocoaWindow::initialize()                                                                                                                                                                                                                                (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib                 0x10b31c0fe    
      20 QWindowPrivate::create(bool, unsigned long long)                                                                                                                                                                                                          (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/lib/QtGui.framework/Versions/5/QtGui              0x1007aceb7    
      21 QWidgetPrivate::create()                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/lib/QtWidgets.framework/Versions/5/QtWidgets      0x10016c771    
      22 QWidget::create(unsigned long long, bool, bool)                                                                                                                                                                                                           (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/lib/QtWidgets.framework/Versions/5/QtWidgets      0x10016b414    
      23 QWidgetPrivate::setVisible(bool)                                                                                                                                                                                                                          (x86_64) /Users/jonashilk/Qt/5.15.2/clang_64/lib/QtWidgets.framework/Versions/5/QtWidgets      0x10017e81d    
      24 main::$_0::operator()() const                                                                                                                                                                                                                             main.cpp                                                                                  13   0x100006538    
      25 decltype(std::forward<main::$_0>(fp)()) std::__invoke<main::$_0>(main::$_0&&)                                                                                                                                                                             type_traits                                                                               3545 0x10000647d    
      26 void std::__thread_execute<std::unique_ptr<std::__thread_struct, std::default_delete<std::__thread_struct>>, main::$_0>(std::tuple<std::unique_ptr<std::__thread_struct, std::default_delete<std::__thread_struct>>, main::$_0>&, std::__tuple_indices<>) thread                                                                                    273  0x1000063e5    
      27 void * std::__thread_proxy<std::tuple<std::unique_ptr<std::__thread_struct, std::default_delete<std::__thread_struct>>, main::$_0>>(void *)                                                                                                               thread                                                                                    284  0x100005c16    
      28 _pthread_start                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib                                               0x7fff2033b950 
      29 thread_start                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              (x86_64) /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib                                               0x7fff2033747b 
      
      
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      @J-Hilk said in QApplication in std::thread:

      @JKSH this actually crashes for me on btn.show()

      That's expected. MacOS does not support plugging into the event loop from a thread different from main(). Should work on linux and windows, though.

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      • kshegunovK kshegunov

        @JKSH said in QApplication in std::thread:

        @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

        I meant the trace from QT_FATAL_WARNINGS, so we could see what was called leading to the mentioned warning.

        Nothing useful from GDB:

        1 qt_message_fatal(QtMsgType, QMessageLogContext const&, QString const&) [clone .isra.4]   0x68e23630 
        2 ??                                                                                       0x3121a30  
        

        Did you run this with a release Qt or with -developer-build? :)
        (The address is rather odd, though)

        @JKSH said in QApplication in std::thread:

        If you don't interact with the button, then #8 doesn't appear. No difference if qDebug is switched to std::cout with flush.

        Can't reproduce:

        
        09:01:47: Debugging starts
        Event loop stopped
        Thread stopped
        Waiting, waiting...
        Program shutting down
        

        What's your kit?
        I have 5.15.2 from the repo with gcc 10.2.1.

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        wrote on last edited by JKSH
        #6

        @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

        Did you run this with a release Qt or with -developer-build? :)
        (The address is rather odd, though)

        Ah, right... I thought the Debug build would suffice. Don't have a dev build right now.

        Can't reproduce:

        ...

        What's your kit?
        I have 5.15.2 from the repo with gcc 10.2.1.

        Same result for me on Windows 10 20H2, with all official builds of:

        • Qt 5.12.10 MSVC 2017 64-bit (using MSVC 2019 compiler)
        • Qt 5.14.2 MinGW 7.3.0 32-bit
        • Qt 5.15.2 MSVC 2019 64-bit

        Might be Windows-specific.

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        • JKSHJ JKSH

          @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

          Did you run this with a release Qt or with -developer-build? :)
          (The address is rather odd, though)

          Ah, right... I thought the Debug build would suffice. Don't have a dev build right now.

          Can't reproduce:

          ...

          What's your kit?
          I have 5.15.2 from the repo with gcc 10.2.1.

          Same result for me on Windows 10 20H2, with all official builds of:

          • Qt 5.12.10 MSVC 2017 64-bit (using MSVC 2019 compiler)
          • Qt 5.14.2 MinGW 7.3.0 32-bit
          • Qt 5.15.2 MSVC 2019 64-bit

          Might be Windows-specific.

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          @JKSH said in QApplication in std::thread:

          Ah, right... I thought the Debug build would suffice. Don't have a dev build right now.

          Not once in a universe lifetime.

          @JKSH said in QApplication in std::thread:

          Might be Windows-specific.

          Possibly. Unfortunately I don't have windows on hand (or rather I'm too lazy now to boot into it). Maybe, I'll check it later.

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          • kshegunovK kshegunov

            @J-Hilk said in QApplication in std::thread:

            @JKSH this actually crashes for me on btn.show()

            That's expected. MacOS does not support plugging into the event loop from a thread different from main(). Should work on linux and windows, though.

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            @kshegunov Apple does a lot of funky stuff, in that regard, let me fire up my vm


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            • kshegunovK kshegunov

              @JKSH said in QApplication in std::thread:

              Ah, right... I thought the Debug build would suffice. Don't have a dev build right now.

              Not once in a universe lifetime.

              @JKSH said in QApplication in std::thread:

              Might be Windows-specific.

              Possibly. Unfortunately I don't have windows on hand (or rather I'm too lazy now to boot into it). Maybe, I'll check it later.

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              wrote on last edited by JKSH
              #9

              @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

              Not once in a universe lifetime.

              Duly noted :-D

              But before we get too sidetracked: @Suthiro's main issue isn't the message about timers. Rather, it's the crash which I believe is caused by delete m_qPlotsControl; (see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67257329/weird-qpushbutton-bug ).

              I believe it is fixable with m_qPlotsControl->deleteLater();... but that needs to be done before QApplication::exec() returns, because QDeferredDeleteEvent won't be processed without an event loop.

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              • JKSHJ JKSH

                @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

                Not once in a universe lifetime.

                Duly noted :-D

                But before we get too sidetracked: @Suthiro's main issue isn't the message about timers. Rather, it's the crash which I believe is caused by delete m_qPlotsControl; (see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67257329/weird-qpushbutton-bug ).

                I believe it is fixable with m_qPlotsControl->deleteLater();... but that needs to be done before QApplication::exec() returns, because QDeferredDeleteEvent won't be processed without an event loop.

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                @JKSH Ok I can reproduce it as well, (on the VM) Qt 15.3 & MSVC2019


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                • JKSHJ JKSH

                  @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

                  Not once in a universe lifetime.

                  Duly noted :-D

                  But before we get too sidetracked: @Suthiro's main issue isn't the message about timers. Rather, it's the crash which I believe is caused by delete m_qPlotsControl; (see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67257329/weird-qpushbutton-bug ).

                  I believe it is fixable with m_qPlotsControl->deleteLater();... but that needs to be done before QApplication::exec() returns, because QDeferredDeleteEvent won't be processed without an event loop.

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                  @JKSH said in QApplication in std::thread:

                  I believe it is fixable with m_qPlotsControl->deleteLater();... but that needs to be done before QApplication::exec() returns, because QDeferredDeleteEvent won't be processed without an event loop.

                  I still don't understand this. For what reason should that be the case, and why would this generate a crash? I'm pretty sure deferred deletes are processed after the event loop has exited (see for example the QThread::finished -> QObject::deleteLater), but even if that weren't the case the QPushButton's destructor is going to be run before the thread actually finishes and before the application object's destructor's run (there's no difference between main() and any other function from c++'s point of view).

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                  • JKSHJ JKSH

                    [Forked from https://forum.qt.io/topic/126128/qapplication-in-std-thread -- Sorry, I messed up the order of posts when I did the fork; this top post should be further down]

                    @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

                    why would this generate a crash?

                    Since the widget creates a timer in the background, then it's probably receiving background events/signals. delete could cause the event/signal handler to act on a dangling pointer -- that's how it could generate a crash. And that's why deleteLater() can fix the crash. (Alternatively, we could change from a heap-allocated widget to a stack-allocated widget)

                    I'm pretty sure deferred deletes are processed after the event loop has exited (see for example the QThread::finished -> QObject::deleteLater)

                    The code below prints "Bye" but not "Widget destroyed", proving that the Widget's destructor is not run:

                    // widget.h
                    #include <QWidget>
                    
                    class Widget : public QWidget
                    {
                        Q_OBJECT
                    public:
                        Widget(QWidget *parent = nullptr) : QWidget(parent) {}
                        ~Widget(){ qDebug("Widget destroyed"); }
                    };
                    
                    // main.cpp
                    #include "widget.h"
                    #include <QApplication>
                    #include <chrono>
                    #include <thread>
                    
                    using namespace std::chrono_literals;
                    
                    int main(int argc, char *argv[])
                    {
                        std::thread thr([&]
                        {
                            QApplication a(argc, argv);
                            auto w = new Widget;
                            w->show();
                            a.exec();
                    
                            // delete w; // This WILL run the Widget's destructor
                    
                            w->deleteLater(); // This WON'T run the Widget's destructor
                        });
                    
                        std::this_thread::sleep_for(5000ms);
                    
                        QMetaObject::invokeMethod(qApp, &QApplication::quit);
                        thr.join();
                    
                        std::this_thread::sleep_for(5000ms);
                        qDebug("Bye");
                    }
                    

                    Anyway, I was trying to say that @Suthiro can't simply replace delete m_qPlotsControl; with m_qPlotsControl->deleteLater(); in-place at https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67257329/weird-qpushbutton-bug . Some re-shuffling is required.

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                    @JKSH said in QApplication in std::thread:

                    The code below prints "Bye" but not "Widget destroyed", proving that the Widget's destructor is not run:

                    I meant connecting to the aboutToQuit signal, but anyhow it's not that important.

                    Since the widget creates a timer in the background, then it's probably receiving background events/signals. delete could cause the event/signal handler to act on a dangling pointer -- that's how it could generate a crash.

                    I think this shouldn't happen, but can't investigate it currently.

                    Anyway, I was trying to say that @Suthiro can't simply replace delete m_qPlotsControl; with m_qPlotsControl->deleteLater(); in-place at https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67257329/weird-qpushbutton-bug . Some re-shuffling is required.

                    I suppose, but that timer message should go away, otherwise the code can break at any moment (this applies to your code too - the one you mentioned where you get the warning).

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                      I reproduced this on Windows and the message about timers comes from a destructor of a static QPixmapCache object that happens on the main() thread. That's not something the user's code does. It's in Qt's internals.

                      Right, so remember the rule that no QObject should outlive the application object and this means no static QObjects? Apparently Qt itself doesn't respect that rule and also creates static objects that run code in the main thread no matter where the application object is created :/

                      I would consider this a Qt bug and expect it to crash all over the place.

                      EDIT: I missed that JKSH already mentioned this, but yeah, this seems to be the culprit.

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                      • Chris KawaC Chris Kawa

                        I reproduced this on Windows and the message about timers comes from a destructor of a static QPixmapCache object that happens on the main() thread. That's not something the user's code does. It's in Qt's internals.

                        Right, so remember the rule that no QObject should outlive the application object and this means no static QObjects? Apparently Qt itself doesn't respect that rule and also creates static objects that run code in the main thread no matter where the application object is created :/

                        I would consider this a Qt bug and expect it to crash all over the place.

                        EDIT: I missed that JKSH already mentioned this, but yeah, this seems to be the culprit.

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                        @Chris-Kawa said in QApplication in std::thread:

                        I reproduced this on Windows and the message about timers comes from a destructor of a static QPixmapCache object that happens on the main() thread. That's not something the user's code does. It's in Qt's internals.

                        Hm, interesting. Do you have a woboq location?

                        Right, so remember the rule that no QObject should outlive the application object and this means no static QObjects?
                        Apparently Qt itself doesn't respect that rule and also creates static objects that run code in the main thread no matter where the application object is created :/

                        Yeah. Not living up to its own expectations it seems. :(

                        I would consider this a Qt bug and expect it to crash all over the place.

                        Me too, which is what I wrote somewhere upstairs - this should be fixed at the vendor side.

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                        • kshegunovK kshegunov

                          @Chris-Kawa said in QApplication in std::thread:

                          I reproduced this on Windows and the message about timers comes from a destructor of a static QPixmapCache object that happens on the main() thread. That's not something the user's code does. It's in Qt's internals.

                          Hm, interesting. Do you have a woboq location?

                          Right, so remember the rule that no QObject should outlive the application object and this means no static QObjects?
                          Apparently Qt itself doesn't respect that rule and also creates static objects that run code in the main thread no matter where the application object is created :/

                          Yeah. Not living up to its own expectations it seems. :(

                          I would consider this a Qt bug and expect it to crash all over the place.

                          Me too, which is what I wrote somewhere upstairs - this should be fixed at the vendor side.

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                          @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

                          Hm, interesting. Do you have a woboq location?

                          Instance declaration is here:
                          https://code.woboq.org/qt5/qtbase/src/gui/image/qpixmapcache.cpp.html#pm_cache

                          And here's Windows with MSVC crash callstack on exit:

                          1   QPMCache::~QPMCache                                                                                   qpixmapcache.cpp 269
                          2   ``anonymous namespace'::Q_QGS_pm_cache::innerFunction'::`2'::Holder::~Holder                          Qt5Guid             
                          3   ``anonymous namespace'::Q_QGS_pm_cache::innerFunction'::`2'::`dynamic atexit destructor for 'holder'' Qt5Guid             
                          4   initterm_e                                                                                            ucrtbased           
                          5   initterm_e                                                                                            ucrtbased           
                          6   initterm_e                                                                                            ucrtbased           
                          7   execute_onexit_table                                                                                  ucrtbased           
                          8   __scrt_dllmain_uninitialize_c                                                                         utility.cpp      399
                          9   dllmain_crt_process_detach                                                                            dll_dllmain.cpp  182
                          10  dllmain_crt_dispatch                                                                                  dll_dllmain.cpp  220
                          11  dllmain_dispatch                                                                                      dll_dllmain.cpp  293
                          12  _DllMainCRTStartup                                                                                    dll_dllmain.cpp  335
                          13  RtlActivateActivationContextUnsafeFast                                                                ntdll               
                          14  LdrShutdownProcess                                                                                    ntdll               
                          15  RtlExitUserProcess                                                                                    ntdll               
                          16  FatalExit                                                                                             KERNEL32            
                          17  wassert                                                                                               ucrtbased           
                          18  wassert                                                                                               ucrtbased           
                          19  exit                                                                                                  ucrtbased           
                          20  __scrt_common_main_seh                                                                                exe_common.inl   297
                          

                          I used this simplified code:

                          int main(int argc, char *argv[])
                          {
                              std::thread thr([](int argc, char *argv[])
                              {
                                  QApplication a(argc, argv);
                                  QPushButton btn("Push");
                                  btn.show();
                                  a.exec();
                              }, argc, argv);
                          
                              thr.join();
                          }
                          
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                          • Chris KawaC Chris Kawa

                            @kshegunov said in QApplication in std::thread:

                            Hm, interesting. Do you have a woboq location?

                            Instance declaration is here:
                            https://code.woboq.org/qt5/qtbase/src/gui/image/qpixmapcache.cpp.html#pm_cache

                            And here's Windows with MSVC crash callstack on exit:

                            1   QPMCache::~QPMCache                                                                                   qpixmapcache.cpp 269
                            2   ``anonymous namespace'::Q_QGS_pm_cache::innerFunction'::`2'::Holder::~Holder                          Qt5Guid             
                            3   ``anonymous namespace'::Q_QGS_pm_cache::innerFunction'::`2'::`dynamic atexit destructor for 'holder'' Qt5Guid             
                            4   initterm_e                                                                                            ucrtbased           
                            5   initterm_e                                                                                            ucrtbased           
                            6   initterm_e                                                                                            ucrtbased           
                            7   execute_onexit_table                                                                                  ucrtbased           
                            8   __scrt_dllmain_uninitialize_c                                                                         utility.cpp      399
                            9   dllmain_crt_process_detach                                                                            dll_dllmain.cpp  182
                            10  dllmain_crt_dispatch                                                                                  dll_dllmain.cpp  220
                            11  dllmain_dispatch                                                                                      dll_dllmain.cpp  293
                            12  _DllMainCRTStartup                                                                                    dll_dllmain.cpp  335
                            13  RtlActivateActivationContextUnsafeFast                                                                ntdll               
                            14  LdrShutdownProcess                                                                                    ntdll               
                            15  RtlExitUserProcess                                                                                    ntdll               
                            16  FatalExit                                                                                             KERNEL32            
                            17  wassert                                                                                               ucrtbased           
                            18  wassert                                                                                               ucrtbased           
                            19  exit                                                                                                  ucrtbased           
                            20  __scrt_common_main_seh                                                                                exe_common.inl   297
                            

                            I used this simplified code:

                            int main(int argc, char *argv[])
                            {
                                std::thread thr([](int argc, char *argv[])
                                {
                                    QApplication a(argc, argv);
                                    QPushButton btn("Push");
                                    btn.show();
                                    a.exec();
                                }, argc, argv);
                            
                                thr.join();
                            }
                            
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                            Yes, this is constructed appropriately, however the deallocation should've been tied to the QCoreApplication::aboutToQuit. I doubt anyone is going to bother fixing it though, I'm not sure if it's not going to be discarded with "this is unsupported" even ...

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                              Yes, this is constructed appropriately, however the deallocation should've been tied to the QCoreApplication::aboutToQuit. I doubt anyone is going to bother fixing it though, I'm not sure if it's not going to be discarded with "this is unsupported" even ...

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                              Good detective work, @Chris-Kawa!

                              I encountered this a few years ago but had forgotten most of the details.

                              @kshegunov said in Global static QPixmapCache in Qt internals:

                              Yes, this is constructed appropriately, however the deallocation should've been tied to the QCoreApplication::aboutToQuit. I doubt anyone is going to bother fixing it though, I'm not sure if it's not going to be discarded with "this is unsupported" even ...

                              Since a QPixmap requires a QGuiApplication, would a simple(?) and correct fix be to allocate the QPixmapCache in the QGuiApplication constructor, and deallocate it from the QGuiApplication destructor?

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                                Good detective work, @Chris-Kawa!

                                I encountered this a few years ago but had forgotten most of the details.

                                @kshegunov said in Global static QPixmapCache in Qt internals:

                                Yes, this is constructed appropriately, however the deallocation should've been tied to the QCoreApplication::aboutToQuit. I doubt anyone is going to bother fixing it though, I'm not sure if it's not going to be discarded with "this is unsupported" even ...

                                Since a QPixmap requires a QGuiApplication, would a simple(?) and correct fix be to allocate the QPixmapCache in the QGuiApplication constructor, and deallocate it from the QGuiApplication destructor?

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                                Possibly. Or it can be a pseudo-singleton (similarly to QCoreApplication) and be initialized on demand in the instance retrieving function (dropping the global static that it currently uses). You could poke Thiago, but as written, I wouldn't hold my breath.

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                                  There are some reports about such an issue:
                                  https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-48709
                                  https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-21807

                                  And it does not crash here for me on Linux and Windows (MSVC, debug-build) with 5.15.x

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                                    There are some reports about such an issue:
                                    https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-48709
                                    https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-21807

                                    And it does not crash here for me on Linux and Windows (MSVC, debug-build) with 5.15.x

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                                    @Christian-Ehrlicher said in Global static QPixmapCache in Qt internals:

                                    And it does not crash here for me on Linux and Windows (MSVC, debug-build) with 5.15.x

                                    We are talking about the QTimers from another thread message. JKSH, split the threads. The other stuff (the supposed crash) contines to befuddle me.

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                                      I also don't have a warning about the timer with the testcase on windows/msvc :)

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                                        @kshegunov

                                        We are talking about the QTimers from another thread message. JKSH, split the threads. The other stuff (the supposed crash) contines to befuddle me.

                                        I don't know how exactly the crash in the original thread is connected with this. However, the crash and the message about timers are appearing together. They appear after any interaction with simple QPushButton. Using deleteLater() as suggested by @JKSH solves the crash, but the message persists.

                                        @Christian-Ehrlicher said in Global static QPixmapCache in Qt internals:

                                        And it does not crash here for me on Linux and Windows (MSVC, debug-build) with 5.15.x

                                        To clarify: crash appears only when one tries to unload a library with QApplication inside. The library in my case is loaded by lua.exe, but I doubt it is lua-related problem.

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                                          Possibly. Or it can be a pseudo-singleton (similarly to QCoreApplication) and be initialized on demand in the instance retrieving function (dropping the global static that it currently uses). You could poke Thiago, but as written, I wouldn't hold my breath.

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                                          @kshegunov said in Global static QPixmapCache in Qt internals:

                                          Possibly. Or it can be a pseudo-singleton (similarly to QCoreApplication) and be initialized on demand in the instance retrieving function (dropping the global static that it currently uses). You could poke Thiago, but as written, I wouldn't hold my breath.

                                          That sounds like a source and binary compatibility break, unless instance() is used from within the existing static functions.

                                          A thread_local version would be another solution, that could be implemented without changing any user source code. Keep the global static interface object for binary compatibility, and move the actual QObject-based implementation to thread_local storage for the gui thread.

                                          The QPixmapCache documentation already says that the cache is only usable from the "application's main thread".

                                          Asking a question about code? http://eel.is/iso-c++/testcase/

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