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  • KroMignonK KroMignon

    @SPlatten QTcpSocket is asynchronous, as many Qt classes, and needs therefore a working (not locked) event queue to work properly.
    The while loop in your code is locking the event queue access, so this can NOT work.

    EDIT: by the way, what is clsMsgSender base class? I hope it is not QThread!

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    @KroMignon , thank you, it was following numerous online posts on how to use QTcpSocket. If this isn't the correct way to do it, then why are there so many posts out there illustrating it? I will try replacing this with the signal/slot alternative.

    Why do you hope that clsMsgSender isn't a class? Yes it is a thread.

    Kind Regards,
    Sy

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    • SPlattenS SPlatten

      @KroMignon , thank you, it was following numerous online posts on how to use QTcpSocket. If this isn't the correct way to do it, then why are there so many posts out there illustrating it? I will try replacing this with the signal/slot alternative.

      Why do you hope that clsMsgSender isn't a class? Yes it is a thread.

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      @SPlatten said in QTcpSocket, execution halts why and what does it mean?:

      If this isn't the correct way to do it, then why are there so many posts out there illustrating it?

      Hmm, I have never found a working example using QTcpSocket which is looking the event loop.
      Can you share some links?

      It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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      • KroMignonK KroMignon

        @SPlatten said in QTcpSocket, execution halts why and what does it mean?:

        If this isn't the correct way to do it, then why are there so many posts out there illustrating it?

        Hmm, I have never found a working example using QTcpSocket which is looking the event loop.
        Can you share some links?

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        @KroMignon , do you mean isn't ?

        Links:

        https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qabstractsocket.html#waitForConnected
        https://www.bogotobogo.com/Qt/Qt5_QTcpSocket.php

        There are many more.

        Kind Regards,
        Sy

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        • SPlattenS SPlatten

          @KroMignon , do you mean isn't ?

          Links:

          https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qabstractsocket.html#waitForConnected
          https://www.bogotobogo.com/Qt/Qt5_QTcpSocket.php

          There are many more.

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          @SPlatten I don't see any event loop blocking loops in the links you posted. Your "while( mblnRun == true )" blocks the event loop. If you want to use Qt properly don't block the event loop - one of the most basic rules when using event driven frameworks.

          https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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          • jsulmJ jsulm

            @SPlatten I don't see any event loop blocking loops in the links you posted. Your "while( mblnRun == true )" blocks the event loop. If you want to use Qt properly don't block the event loop - one of the most basic rules when using event driven frameworks.

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            @jsulm , thank you, can you please help me with an example?

            Kind Regards,
            Sy

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            • SPlattenS SPlatten

              @jsulm , thank you, can you please help me with an example?

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              @SPlatten said in QTcpSocket, execution halts why and what does it mean?:

              can you please help me with an example?

              Yes, but an example for doing what exactly?

              It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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              • KroMignonK KroMignon

                @SPlatten said in QTcpSocket, execution halts why and what does it mean?:

                can you please help me with an example?

                Yes, but an example for doing what exactly?

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                @KroMignon , the examples I've found on QThread do not include how to NOT block the event loop, so an example on what to do in the thread so it doesn't block the event loop.

                I've just added:

                        QCoreApplication::processEvents();
                

                To the thread loops, is this enough?

                Kind Regards,
                Sy

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                • SPlattenS SPlatten

                  @KroMignon , do you mean isn't ?

                  Links:

                  https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qabstractsocket.html#waitForConnected
                  https://www.bogotobogo.com/Qt/Qt5_QTcpSocket.php

                  There are many more.

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                  @SPlatten

                  In general you can say that

                  • for(;;){}
                  • while(1)
                  • while(true) <- this is what you are doing basically

                  are pure evil, when used together with Qt GUI Framework. There might be some exceptions (esp. plain C++ code) but it's not safe to use it, when having signals&slots + events in use.

                  In your linked example this

                  if (socket->waitForConnected(1000))
                  

                  for example, wont block the event loop forever, if this is what you were thinking.


                  If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

                  ~E. W. Dijkstra

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                  • Pl45m4P Pl45m4

                    @SPlatten

                    In general you can say that

                    • for(;;){}
                    • while(1)
                    • while(true) <- this is what you are doing basically

                    are pure evil, when used together with Qt GUI Framework. There might be some exceptions (esp. plain C++ code) but it's not safe to use it, when having signals&slots + events in use.

                    In your linked example this

                    if (socket->waitForConnected(1000))
                    

                    for example, wont block the event loop forever, if this is what you were thinking.

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                    @Pl45m4, I wasn't trying to block the event loop.

                    Kind Regards,
                    Sy

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                    • SPlattenS SPlatten

                      @KroMignon , the examples I've found on QThread do not include how to NOT block the event loop, so an example on what to do in the thread so it doesn't block the event loop.

                      I've just added:

                              QCoreApplication::processEvents();
                      

                      To the thread loops, is this enough?

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                      @SPlatten said in QTcpSocket, execution halts why and what does it mean?:

                      To the thread loops, is this enough?

                      I am not sure, is clsMsgSender a QThread or a QObject?

                      @SPlatten I will try to share with you how I use QTcpSocket.

                      First, there is no need to create a thread for that, the easiest implementation is (for me):

                      // supposing mSocket is a member of the current class
                      mSocket = new QTcpSocket();
                      
                      // remove TCP delay
                      mSocket->setSocketOption(QAbstractSocket::LowDelayOption, 1);
                      
                      QObject::connect(mSocket, &QAbstractSocket::connected,
                                       [this]()
                                       {
                                          qDebug() << "Connected with" << mSocket->peerPort();
                                          // Do stuff here                  
                                       });
                      QObject::connect(mSocket, &QAbstractSocket::disconnected,
                                       [this]()
                                       {
                                          qDebug() << "Disconnected from" << mSocket->peerPort();
                                          mSocket->delateLater();
                                          mSocket = nullptr;
                                       });
                      QObject::connect(mSocket, &QIODevice::bytesWritten,
                                       [this](qint64 bytes)
                                       {
                                          qDebug() << bytes << "send to " << mSocket->peerPort();
                                          // do stuff (add next data?)
                                       });
                                       
                      mSocket->connectToHost(remoteIp, tcpPort);
                      QObject::connect(mSocket, &QIODevice::readyRead, [this](){
                          auto buffer = mSocket->readAll();
                          qDebug() << "receiving" << buffer.size() << "bytes from" << mSocket->peerPort();
                          // do stuff with data
                      });
                      

                      It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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                      • SPlattenS SPlatten

                        @KroMignon , the examples I've found on QThread do not include how to NOT block the event loop, so an example on what to do in the thread so it doesn't block the event loop.

                        I've just added:

                                QCoreApplication::processEvents();
                        

                        To the thread loops, is this enough?

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                        @SPlatten said in QTcpSocket, execution halts why and what does it mean?:

                        the examples I've found on QThread do not include how to NOT block the event loop

                        Here, this wont block:

                        • https://www.bogotobogo.com/Qt/Qt5_QTcpSocket.php (your 2nd linked example)

                        This guy (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37167927/proper-way-to-run-managable-background-thread-with-qthread) has made a similar mistake.
                        You want to connect once and then let the event loop and your signals do the rest.


                        If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

                        ~E. W. Dijkstra

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                        • Christian EhrlicherC Online
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                          Funny - this discussion was already done more than 3 months ago already: https://forum.qt.io/topic/120700/receiving-data-from-qtcpsocket/30

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                          • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                            Funny - this discussion was already done more than 3 months ago already: https://forum.qt.io/topic/120700/receiving-data-from-qtcpsocket/30

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                            @Christian-Ehrlicher , is it any surprise I'm confused, in that thread you pointed me to the Fortune client and server examples, which I have been following then there is conflicting advice that comes back form this forum when I implement a solution that I'm having problems with.

                            Add to this the what appears to be flaky Qt Creator with updates that seem to send me backwards. I feel I'm loosing the plot.

                            Kind Regards,
                            Sy

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                              The old thread told you to use signals and slots and not the waitFor functions and now we're at the exactly same place.

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                              • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                                The old thread told you to use signals and slots and not the waitFor functions and now we're at the exactly same place.

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                                @Christian-Ehrlicher , well obviously I have mental memory issues.

                                Kind Regards,
                                Sy

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                                • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                                  The old thread told you to use signals and slots and not the waitFor functions and now we're at the exactly same place.

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                                  @Christian-Ehrlicher , the examples that ship with Qt 5.15.2 include:

                                  blockingfortuneclient
                                  threadedfortuneserver

                                  On looking at both, these are the sources I used to base my work on. My server is slightly different in that the clients are intended to stay connected after establishing a connection.

                                  I will compare the client source with my own.

                                  Kind Regards,
                                  Sy

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                                    From my pov you don't need threads at all but this is not what you want to hear for whatever reason - you rather work on simple stuff like a QTcpSocket for months.

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                                    • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                                      From my pov you don't need threads at all but this is not what you want to hear for whatever reason - you rather work on simple stuff like a QTcpSocket for months.

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                                      @Christian-Ehrlicher , one day I will be ready to share what I'm working on, which isn't now.

                                      Kind Regards,
                                      Sy

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                                      • SPlattenS SPlatten

                                        @Christian-Ehrlicher , one day I will be ready to share what I'm working on, which isn't now.

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                                        @SPlatten said in QTcpSocket, execution halts why and what does it mean?:

                                        one day I will be ready to share what I'm working on, which isn't now.

                                        This sentence sounds strange to me.

                                        I think you misunderstanding some comments/replies you received here.
                                        My personal goal is to help other developers to solve problem they have will creating software with Qt, like I received help from other to solve/understand errors in my software.

                                        On the other side, this also helps me to get a better overview of Qt Framework and continue to learn.

                                        It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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                                        • KroMignonK KroMignon

                                          @SPlatten said in QTcpSocket, execution halts why and what does it mean?:

                                          one day I will be ready to share what I'm working on, which isn't now.

                                          This sentence sounds strange to me.

                                          I think you misunderstanding some comments/replies you received here.
                                          My personal goal is to help other developers to solve problem they have will creating software with Qt, like I received help from other to solve/understand errors in my software.

                                          On the other side, this also helps me to get a better overview of Qt Framework and continue to learn.

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                                          @KroMignon , sorry, some of the comments, not yours I find a little offensive.

                                          Kind Regards,
                                          Sy

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