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    w00t
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    The Nokia SDK is pretty much a superset of the Qt SDK, so I'm not sure they need merging. It would be nice if the Qt one more or less linked to the Nokia one, though, I think.

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      thorbjorn
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      In fact, the Nokia Qt SDK is not a superset of the Qt SDK. In particular, it does not include desktop versions of Qt to develop against. It would in my opinion also make sense to merge these two, especially since with the online installer it only downloads what you select anyway. We'll see whether this happens.

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        w00t
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        It doesn't? OK, I guess it picked up my local copy of 4.7. I stand corrected.

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          mgran
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          Here is an overview that might help:

          "http://qt.nokia.com/products/qt-for-mobile-platforms#qtfornokia(http://qt.nokia.com/products/qt-for-mobile-platforms#qtfornokia)":http://qt.nokia.com/products/qt-for-mobile-platforms#qtfornokia

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            ucomesdag
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            Any change that the NokiaSDK installer will get an option to download and install the desktop version soon?

            Write “Qt”, not “QT” (QuickTime).

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              tobias.hunger
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              ucomesdag: Good idea! Go ahead and file a feature request in the "Qt bugtracker":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/.

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                ucomesdag
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                "QTSDK-221":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTSDK-221

                [edit: mark up link, Tobias Hunger]

                Write “Qt”, not “QT” (QuickTime).

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                  disperso
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                  That bug turned out it was a duplicate of "bug QTSDK-114":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTSDK-114.

                  Is a very valuable feature IMHO (i was looking on the forum just to see if somebody mentioned it :P), and seems it's fixed in 1.1. Great!

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                    maciej
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                    +1 for merging and breaking to smaller pieces - Many people would prefer to install distribution packages instead of *.run files. Also - some people won't need mobile development tools.

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                      disperso
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                      [quote author="maciek" date="1291668207"]+1 for merging and breaking to smaller pieces - Many people would prefer to install distribution packages instead of *.run files. Also - some people won't need mobile development tools.[/quote]

                      Yeah, I wish I could just run aptitude install nokia-qt-sdk and be done with. Qt is free software, Creator and the Simulator are free too. I don't know if there are some pieces not free software yet.

                      Anyways, I just imagine it's really hard to package everything for a distribution. Usually just a library is a pain, so a cross compiled Qt it's just too much work.

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                        anselmolsm
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                        I like the idea of breaking in smaller pieces. It would avoid what happened in my work machine. I had Qt Creator installed + Creator which is part of the Nokia Qt SDK + Creator part of the MeeGo SDK.

                        Ok, maybe it was my fault to install each 'full sdk' :-P , but IMHO it would be easier with smaller parts (plugins?) that one could easily enable or disable inside Qt Creator.

                        Anselmo L. S. Melo (anselmolsm)

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                          fcrochik
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                          Qt creator had, at a time (I can't find where anymore), the idea of adding/updating packages separately. It would be great to install qt creator and then "add modules" from within ... maemo module, meego module, desktop development module ...

                          By the way: can we figure out a way to update the existing "version" instead of having to start over? We have the "auto update" on qt creator but I have never had a chance to update anything using it.

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                            disperso
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                            [quote author="fcrochik" date="1291675760"]Qt creator had, at a time (I can't find where anymore), the idea of adding/updating packages separately. It would be great to install qt creator and then "add modules" from within ... maemo module, meego module, desktop development module ...
                            [/quote]

                            I think that you mean the Nokia Qt SDK online installer. There you can add, remove or update components. See the screenshot.

                            !http://darkshines.net/pub/nokia-qt-sdk-updater.png(Nokia Qt SDK Updater)!

                            Unfortunately, not everything can be installed using that (yet). For example, I have a second installation of Qt Creator to test the 2.1 RC.

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                              fcrochik
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                              @disperso: You got it! Your screenshot seems to have more than I remember seeing before...may be we are already moving towards this - it would be great!

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                                GordonSchumacher
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                                Wow - thanks so much for posting that link. One related comment I want to make is that it is sometimes hard to find the page you're looking for - for instance, I hadn't found that because I wasn't looking under the "mobile" section.

                                Another vote for combining the two, and I'd like to add the option to install the source code. On Linux and Windows, I inevitably end up building from source, for one reason or another. (Okay, I also frequently end up needing to build from git, but that's neither here nor there.)

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                                  ucomesdag
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                                  [quote]... Similarly to the Qt SDK, the new Nokia Qt SDK product, which debuted a few months ago, combines Qt and Qt Creator in one package (along with a number of other useful tools for both desktop and mobile development). It didn’t make sense to us to keep shipping two products that support the same set of use-cases. We therefore decided to retire the Qt SDK and use the time we would have spent on producing and testing it to put a little extra effort into polishing the next version of the Nokia Qt SDK, which we expect to release before Christmas. Effectively, the Qt SDK will be merged into version 1.1 of the Nokia Qt SDK. ...[/quote]"source":http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/11/09/qt-4-7-1-released/

                                  Write “Qt”, not “QT” (QuickTime).

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