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  • M mooglus

    @Christian-Ehrlicher My base class calls a virtual function which is meant to be overridden by platform specific code. That code could be Qt, or objective c++, or whatever. In the case of Qt, rather than overriding the virtual function to then just emit another signal, I wanted to make that override the actual signal.

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    @mooglus said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

    rather than overriding the virtual function to then just emit another signal, I wanted to make that override the actual signal.

    You know what you're going to be suggested/told! Safer to leave it as a normal method, like the other code expects, and do whatever you want Qt-wise, like emitting a signal, inside that method :) You may be fine with what you're doing, but for the sake of one extra function call it doesn't seem worth it.

    On a separate matter/bug-bear. You look like you're a reasonable programmer/Qt-er. So why are you still using the unhelpful, old-style SIGNAL/SLOT() macros when you could & should be using the new style ones, which at least have compile-time support? :)

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      @mooglus said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

      rather than overriding the virtual function to then just emit another signal, I wanted to make that override the actual signal.

      You know what you're going to be suggested/told! Safer to leave it as a normal method, like the other code expects, and do whatever you want Qt-wise, like emitting a signal, inside that method :) You may be fine with what you're doing, but for the sake of one extra function call it doesn't seem worth it.

      On a separate matter/bug-bear. You look like you're a reasonable programmer/Qt-er. So why are you still using the unhelpful, old-style SIGNAL/SLOT() macros when you could & should be using the new style ones, which at least have compile-time support? :)

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      @JonB It's undoubtedly safer, but in larger classes these extra functions can add up to lots of boiler plate.
      Well spotted, on the old-school SIGNAL/SLOT() :D We have lots of legacy code that hasn't been had these calls weeded out. I did notice as I was pasting the example, but thought it didn't matter too much for this example.

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        @JonB It's undoubtedly safer, but in larger classes these extra functions can add up to lots of boiler plate.
        Well spotted, on the old-school SIGNAL/SLOT() :D We have lots of legacy code that hasn't been had these calls weeded out. I did notice as I was pasting the example, but thought it didn't matter too much for this example.

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        @mooglus said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

        but in larger classes these extra functions can add up to lots of boiler plate.

        Nah, I'm talking about a one-liner. You can even add it in-line in the .h file. If you're not prepared to add one line of code to an interface between two different products/systems you're in trouble. Even I would do it, and believe me I like minimal code! Totally my opinion/your choice of course. I'll leave others to answer your specific approach.

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          Multiple inheritance with QObject could be problematic. When combining functionality with QObject classes I usually use composition rather than inheritance. I have run into issues with being able to copy objects based upon QObject. It also eliminates the use of templates for those classes. If I need a signal on an object that is not QObject based, and I can't or don't want to inherit from QObject. I will often create a subclass that gets created in the constructor and have it call methods on the parent object. I call this object a signal mule.

          C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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          • fcarneyF fcarney

            Multiple inheritance with QObject could be problematic. When combining functionality with QObject classes I usually use composition rather than inheritance. I have run into issues with being able to copy objects based upon QObject. It also eliminates the use of templates for those classes. If I need a signal on an object that is not QObject based, and I can't or don't want to inherit from QObject. I will often create a subclass that gets created in the constructor and have it call methods on the parent object. I call this object a signal mule.

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            @fcarney Interesting reply. I've not run into trouble (yet) with multiple inheritance and Qt. Wouldn't you need to define an interface for your mule? That sounds like a bit of a hassle.

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              @mooglus said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

              Wouldn't you need to define an interface for your mule?

              How would that be bad? If I need functionality I code that functionality.

              C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                @mooglus said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

                Wouldn't you need to define an interface for your mule?

                How would that be bad? If I need functionality I code that functionality.

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                @fcarney It just seems like more typing to provide functionality that inheritance provides. However, if you're in a situation where inheritance is causing you problems then it makes sense. I've read many times that it's good to favour composition over inheritance, in practice I often find it inconvenient. I would upvote you, but your reputation is 666, I could never ruin that ;)

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                • M mooglus

                  @fcarney It just seems like more typing to provide functionality that inheritance provides. However, if you're in a situation where inheritance is causing you problems then it makes sense. I've read many times that it's good to favour composition over inheritance, in practice I often find it inconvenient. I would upvote you, but your reputation is 666, I could never ruin that ;)

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                  @mooglus said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

                  but your reputation is 666

                  Makes sense. I use dark mode Qt Creator, makes me a haxor!

                  C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                  • M mooglus

                    @fcarney Interesting reply. I've not run into trouble (yet) with multiple inheritance and Qt. Wouldn't you need to define an interface for your mule? That sounds like a bit of a hassle.

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                    @mooglus said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

                    I've not run into trouble (yet) with multiple inheritance and Qt.

                    If you do mean from QObject (perhaps you don't) then that is surprising. Inheriting from more than one QObject-derived class is problematic. There are various versions of Qt here, maybe things have changed over the years.

                    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8578657/qobject-multiple-inheritance/8578921
                    https://www.ics.com/blog/multiple-inheritance-qt
                    https://forum.qt.io/topic/88295/with-qt-5-6-is-it-possible-to-avoid-the-diamond-problem-when-signals-and-slots-are-defined-in-two-branches

                    https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/moc.html#multiple-inheritance-requires-qobject-to-be-first

                    If you are using multiple inheritance, moc assumes that the first inherited class is a subclass of QObject. Also, be sure that only the first inherited class is a QObject.

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                      I wanted to inherit a templated class with a QObject. I ran into issues. Also multiple QObject inheritance doesn't work either.

                      C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                      • fcarneyF fcarney

                        I wanted to inherit a templated class with a QObject. I ran into issues. Also multiple QObject inheritance doesn't work either.

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                        @fcarney said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

                        I wanted to inherit a templated class with a QObject.

                        Works fine as long as you don't need moc stuff in the template

                        I ran into issues. Also multiple QObject inheritance doesn't work either.

                        Can not work to the parent-child relatonsship

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                        • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                          @fcarney said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

                          I wanted to inherit a templated class with a QObject.

                          Works fine as long as you don't need moc stuff in the template

                          I ran into issues. Also multiple QObject inheritance doesn't work either.

                          Can not work to the parent-child relatonsship

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                          @Christian-Ehrlicher said in Overriding a protected pure virtual function with a signal:

                          Can not work to the parent-child relatonsship

                          Nor moc, more specifically it confuses the hell out of the meta-object system (e.g QMetaObject).

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                          • M mooglus

                            @fcarney It just seems like more typing to provide functionality that inheritance provides. However, if you're in a situation where inheritance is causing you problems then it makes sense. I've read many times that it's good to favour composition over inheritance, in practice I often find it inconvenient. I would upvote you, but your reputation is 666, I could never ruin that ;)

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