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  • kshegunovK kshegunov

    Maybe Gamma ray?

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    @kshegunov
    Does that work with python bindings ?
    @JonB wow, quite the amount of widgets :)

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      @kshegunov
      Does that work with python bindings ?
      @JonB wow, quite the amount of widgets :)

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      @mrjj said in Code or tool for Qt memory usage/leaks:

      Does that work with python bindings ?

      I'm not sure, but I imagine so. In the end they are python bindings; you still get QObjects created in the background.

      Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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      • kshegunovK kshegunov

        @mrjj said in Code or tool for Qt memory usage/leaks:

        Does that work with python bindings ?

        I'm not sure, but I imagine so. In the end they are python bindings; you still get QObjects created in the background.

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        @kshegunov
        Yeah, i assume that also as in the end, its same binary result but i just wondered.

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        • kshegunovK kshegunov

          Maybe Gamma ray?

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          @kshegunov
          Thanks. I've had a brief look. Apart from the fact that it probably does way more than I have in mind --- I only want to know what QWidgets currently exist --- I have tried to read the manual to understand. I do not install anything to find out, if I can't understand from its docs I don't bother!

          What I don't see is what it actually "works on". The obvious approach would be attach to my running application. But, unlike you guys, my running application is always simply python3. I have no choice, that's how Python works! I don't know whether/see how it's going to recognise that is a Qt application....

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          • mrjjM mrjj

            @kshegunov
            Does that work with python bindings ?
            @JonB wow, quite the amount of widgets :)

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            @mrjj

            @JonB wow, quite the amount of widgets :)

            Yes & no. This app has loads & loads of stacked widgets defined. These are effectively the many pages for the whole application (all accessed from sidebar).

            That means they are all instantiated at start up time. All these pages' constructors are called as they are subjected to QStackedWidget.addWidget(). And the constructors create all the child widgets on the pages. It doesn't take long to reach 896 :(

            These won't leak, and they're permanent, so I'm not worried about them. I'm more worried about the many dialogs which are created at various times, often without WA_DeleteOnClose. And figuring just how that relates to Python's reference counting and garbage collection....

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              @mrjj

              @JonB wow, quite the amount of widgets :)

              Yes & no. This app has loads & loads of stacked widgets defined. These are effectively the many pages for the whole application (all accessed from sidebar).

              That means they are all instantiated at start up time. All these pages' constructors are called as they are subjected to QStackedWidget.addWidget(). And the constructors create all the child widgets on the pages. It doesn't take long to reach 896 :(

              These won't leak, and they're permanent, so I'm not worried about them. I'm more worried about the many dialogs which are created at various times, often without WA_DeleteOnClose. And figuring just how that relates to Python's reference counting and garbage collection....

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              @JonB
              Yep all those have no choice as to die with the stack widget
              So basically, you are looking for Widgets with no parent ? .
              As those with no WA_DeleteOnClose , would still die with parent eventually.

              I have no idea if pythons garbage collection also includes QObjects but i suspect it would be tricky if it does.

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              • mrjjM mrjj

                @JonB
                Yep all those have no choice as to die with the stack widget
                So basically, you are looking for Widgets with no parent ? .
                As those with no WA_DeleteOnClose , would still die with parent eventually.

                I have no idea if pythons garbage collection also includes QObjects but i suspect it would be tricky if it does.

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                @mrjj
                I'm looking for repeated leaks. Whether that requires "no parent" I don't know.

                I can't recall whether you are a pythonista. All our objects are allocated on the heap, there's no stack storage. w = QWidget() is the (implicit) new QWidget() C++ statement, but there's no such thing as delete! I assume(d) Python reference-counts like C# and frees when no more references, but then someone (@SGaist I think maybe) said this wasn't all there is to it and I should consider Qt's references separately, which I'm not sure about.

                Yes all child widgets on the QStackedWidgets will eventually die with it on GUI exit. But I only create them once. I'm more worried about the (plentiful) dialogs which come & go all the time. They are instantiated in two ways:

                QDialog(parent = None)
                

                Yes, this dialog has no parent. You asked if I am interested in that? Having no parent like this is not a "leak". Does something give them a parent, perhaps when they're shown (I tend to use exec()). If not, or whether they are or not, what/when is deleting them?

                QDialog(parent = <caller>)
                

                This has a parent, and the parent will likely persist (e.g. it's a stacked widget page). But again, whether or not, is this dialog being created repeatedly without being freed each time it is called?

                I think all I really must check for is whether the total number of existing widgets is seen to keep increasing each time I go in & out of a given dialog. Which would indeed be bad for app. And I ought be able to do this using your QApplication.allWidgets().

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                  @mrjj
                  I'm looking for repeated leaks. Whether that requires "no parent" I don't know.

                  I can't recall whether you are a pythonista. All our objects are allocated on the heap, there's no stack storage. w = QWidget() is the (implicit) new QWidget() C++ statement, but there's no such thing as delete! I assume(d) Python reference-counts like C# and frees when no more references, but then someone (@SGaist I think maybe) said this wasn't all there is to it and I should consider Qt's references separately, which I'm not sure about.

                  Yes all child widgets on the QStackedWidgets will eventually die with it on GUI exit. But I only create them once. I'm more worried about the (plentiful) dialogs which come & go all the time. They are instantiated in two ways:

                  QDialog(parent = None)
                  

                  Yes, this dialog has no parent. You asked if I am interested in that? Having no parent like this is not a "leak". Does something give them a parent, perhaps when they're shown (I tend to use exec()). If not, or whether they are or not, what/when is deleting them?

                  QDialog(parent = <caller>)
                  

                  This has a parent, and the parent will likely persist (e.g. it's a stacked widget page). But again, whether or not, is this dialog being created repeatedly without being freed each time it is called?

                  I think all I really must check for is whether the total number of existing widgets is seen to keep increasing each time I go in & out of a given dialog. Which would indeed be bad for app. And I ought be able to do this using your QApplication.allWidgets().

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                  @JonB
                  Im only c++. So not sure how pythons integrates to the ownership systems
                  http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/objecttrees.html

                  The
                  QDialog(parent = None) and no WA_DeleteOnClose would leak in c++ but maybe python handles that ?
                  ( on some platform, the leak would not be true. the OS would free on app termination )

                  QDialog(parent = <caller>) would eventually be freed but would might consume memory until app exit.

                  Being python noob i was wondering if its possible to use
                  http://www.gnosis.cx/publish/programming/metaclass_2.html
                  and bind a destructor to all object so you can dump objectnames of all being deallocated.
                  But no idea if that works with bindings :)

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                  • mrjjM mrjj

                    @JonB
                    Im only c++. So not sure how pythons integrates to the ownership systems
                    http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/objecttrees.html

                    The
                    QDialog(parent = None) and no WA_DeleteOnClose would leak in c++ but maybe python handles that ?
                    ( on some platform, the leak would not be true. the OS would free on app termination )

                    QDialog(parent = <caller>) would eventually be freed but would might consume memory until app exit.

                    Being python noob i was wondering if its possible to use
                    http://www.gnosis.cx/publish/programming/metaclass_2.html
                    and bind a destructor to all object so you can dump objectnames of all being deallocated.
                    But no idea if that works with bindings :)

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                    @mrjj
                    Yeah, we're both not sure how it interacts with Qt ownership :)

                    Not freeing till program exit is not in itself a problem to me. The problem would be if more than one instance of a dialog can be in existence at the same time. The point is that those QDialog() statements are being executed repeatedly: user clicks a button, dialog is created dynamically, shown and closed. One instance of that dialog. Then at a later date user clicks same button again. It will create dialog again. If previous one did not get deleted, that's a "leak" for me.

                    As I said, I think all I need --- for my simple checking --- is just the count and the types/names of the widgets from your QApplication.allWidgets(). If I see any permanent increase in that as I go in & out of various dialogs repeatedly I can investigate.

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                      wrote on last edited by JonB
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                      For now I am getting what I need by walking QApplication.allWidgets() (as per @mrjj), checking for things like "no parent".

                      Thanks for all your suggestions though.

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