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  • JonBJ Online
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    JonB
    wrote on last edited by JonB
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    The following question will need a Qt expert who is prepared to look at the Qt source code!

    • It definitely happens under Linux Ubuntu with GNOME desktop.
    • I do not know whether it happens under Linux with other desktops.
    • I do not know whether it happens under Windows.

    Someone will have to be kind enough to try and see!

    If you open the Native (not Qt) QFileDialog (e.g. QFileDialog.getOpenFileName(parent, caption, directory, filter, initialFilter, options)), you always get a warning:

    Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.

    This is explained (to some extent) in, say, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44392504/run-python-gtk3-dialog-or-message-dialog-without-no-transient-parent-warning or https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29883211/gtkdialog-mapped-without-a-transient-parent

    Note that this warning still occurs whatever widget I pass as parent to QFileDialog, I have tried the calling Dialog widget, the Main Window and NULL/None to no effect.

    The warning does not matter so much inside a debugger, but it appears in the output from my application, e.g. in a terminal window if I invoke it from there. If you are an expert you will know why running my app with 2>/dev/null is not a good solution!

    If I understand those posts (especially https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44392504/run-python-gtk3-dialog-or-message-dialog-without-no-transient-parent-warning) correctly, it's down to how Qt source code --- which I take to be using GTK --- actually invokes the native file dialog. You would have thought it was passing the parent I give to QFileDialog, but maybe not?

    Can anyone see what's going on in the source for this? Given that, is there any possible workaround for me?

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  • JonBJ Online
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    replied to jsulm on last edited by JonB
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    @jsulm , @mrjj
    Ah, now it is beginning to become clearer! I think you're saying:

    • The native file dialog is a special kind of window: a "GTK" window. (This applies to Linux/X11? Ubuntu? Unity desktop only?)
    • It would like another GTK window as its parent.
    • But the Qt window which is its parent in QFileDialog is not a GTK window.
    • So the code passes 0/NULL for the parent, and that causes the warning.

    Right?

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  • SGaistS Offline
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    SGaist Lifetime Qt Champion
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    Hi,

    From a quick look, it doesn't seem there's anything that can be done currently see here.

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    Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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  • JonBJ Online
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    replied to SGaist on last edited by
    #3

    @SGaist
    Thank you for that. I note that the call seems to be:

    gtk_file_chooser_dialog_new("", 0, ...)

    That 0 is for parent, which I understand to be the cause of the warning. Seems strange that the "parent" we pass to QFileDialog function does not get passed down to native dialog call?

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  • jsulmJ Offline
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    jsulm Lifetime Qt Champion
    replied to JonB on last edited by
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    @JNBarchan said in "GTK" warning for Native QFileDialog under Linux:

    Seems strange that the "parent" we pass to QFileDialog function does not get passed down to native dialog call?

    Because it can't. GTK does not know anything about any Qt classes - so it cannot use Qt classes as parents.

    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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  • JonBJ Online
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    replied to jsulm on last edited by JonB
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    @jsulm
    Sorry, yes, I meant, when we pass a Qt parent widget as parent to QFileDialog it would pass the corresponding native window onto GTK level as parent. But I don't know anything about GTK!

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  • jsulmJ Offline
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    jsulm Lifetime Qt Champion
    replied to JonB on last edited by
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    @JNBarchan But since it is a Qt application there is no native GTK window. Qt does not use GTK on Linux - as far as I know it draws by itself.

    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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  • mrjjM Offline
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    replied to jsulm on last edited by
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    @jsulm
    But a native QFileDialog might be GTK ?

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  • jsulmJ Offline
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    jsulm Lifetime Qt Champion
    replied to mrjj on last edited by
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    @mrjj Yes, the native dialog is GTK, but there is no other GTK window to use as parent, right?

    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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  • mrjjM Offline
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    replied to jsulm on last edited by
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    @jsulm
    Ah in that way. yes that would be hard to have in plain Qt app.

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  • JonBJ Online
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    replied to jsulm on last edited by JonB
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    @jsulm , @mrjj
    Ah, now it is beginning to become clearer! I think you're saying:

    • The native file dialog is a special kind of window: a "GTK" window. (This applies to Linux/X11? Ubuntu? Unity desktop only?)
    • It would like another GTK window as its parent.
    • But the Qt window which is its parent in QFileDialog is not a GTK window.
    • So the code passes 0/NULL for the parent, and that causes the warning.

    Right?

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    replied to JonB on last edited by
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    @JonB Yes, if you use native dialogs on Linux then Qt simply uses GTK dialogs (GTK is isn't related to Unity, see https://www.gtk.org/). Yes, as GTK does not know anything about Qt it is not possible to pass a parent to GTK dialogs from a Qt app.

    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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  • JonBJ Online
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    replied to jsulm on last edited by
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    @jsulm
    All makes sense now! I had assumed that a normal Qt (X11?) window/dialog would serve as the parent for (what turns out to be a GTK) native file dialog. Now I get the problem, and the reason for the warning!

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