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  • kshegunovK kshegunov

    @VRonin said in iterators in QSharedData:

    but it seems not to work anyway

    Well I have a typo, other.m_iter - other.m_numList.constBegin() should be other.m_iter - other.m_numList.begin(), as your iterator isn't a constant one. Beside that it should work just fine, operator - returns an integer.

    @VRonin said in iterators in QSharedData:

    That doesn't work for QHash as multiple values can have the same key but different iterators

    You use QHash::insertMulti?

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    wrote on last edited by VRonin
    #7

    @kshegunov said in iterators in QSharedData:

    Well I have a typo

    Nope, other is const TestData& so even begin would return a const_iterator. :-P

    You use QHash::insertMulti?

    I do not and I think it's evil but we are talking generally now.

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    • VRoninV VRonin

      @kshegunov said in iterators in QSharedData:

      Well I have a typo

      Nope, other is const TestData& so even begin would return a const_iterator. :-P

      You use QHash::insertMulti?

      I do not and I think it's evil but we are talking generally now.

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      wrote on last edited by kshegunov
      #8

      @VRonin said in iterators in QSharedData:

      Nope, other is const TestData& so even begin would return a const_iterator. :-P

      Yeah, I forgot that little detail, but cast reconstruct your iterator and you should be fine:

      QList<int>::const_iterator(other.m_iter) - other.m_numList.constBegin()
      

      I do not and I think it's evil but we are talking generally now.

      You are stuck with iterating from the first multi-element (similarly to your original approach with the list) to the pointed element in this case. Taking then the offset and reapplying the procedure backwards, taking the first of the multivalued iterators and incrementing it a number of times. Something like this:

      int offset  = 0;
      QHash<...>::Iterator start = other.m_hash.find(other.m_iter.key());
      for (offset = 0; start != other.m_iter; offset++, start++)
          ;
      
      m_iter = m_hash.find(other.m_iter.key());
      while (offset > 0)  {
          m_iter++;
          offset--;
      }
      

      PS.
      I really, really hate the hungarian notation ...

      Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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      • kshegunovK kshegunov

        @VRonin said in iterators in QSharedData:

        Nope, other is const TestData& so even begin would return a const_iterator. :-P

        Yeah, I forgot that little detail, but cast reconstruct your iterator and you should be fine:

        QList<int>::const_iterator(other.m_iter) - other.m_numList.constBegin()
        

        I do not and I think it's evil but we are talking generally now.

        You are stuck with iterating from the first multi-element (similarly to your original approach with the list) to the pointed element in this case. Taking then the offset and reapplying the procedure backwards, taking the first of the multivalued iterators and incrementing it a number of times. Something like this:

        int offset  = 0;
        QHash<...>::Iterator start = other.m_hash.find(other.m_iter.key());
        for (offset = 0; start != other.m_iter; offset++, start++)
            ;
        
        m_iter = m_hash.find(other.m_iter.key());
        while (offset > 0)  {
            m_iter++;
            offset--;
        }
        

        PS.
        I really, really hate the hungarian notation ...

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        wrote on last edited by VRonin
        #9

        @kshegunov said in iterators in QSharedData:

        Yeah, I forgot that little detail

        and I forgot that constructor. good spot!

        Unfortunately QHash seems a lost cause see the main below:

        #include <QExplicitlySharedDataPointer>
        #include <QSharedData>
        #include <QDebug>
        #include <iterator>
        class TestData : public QSharedData{
            QHash<int,int> m_numList;
            QHash<int,int>::iterator m_iter;
        public:
            const QHash<int,int>& numList() const
            {
            return m_numList;
            }
            void setFirstValue(int val){
                m_numList.begin().value()=val;
            }
            void setNumList(const QHash<int,int> &numList)
            {
            m_numList = numList;
            }
        
            const QHash<int,int>::iterator& iter() const
            {
            return m_iter;
            }
        
            void setIter(const QHash<int,int>::iterator &iter)
            {
            m_iter = iter;
            }
        
        
            ~TestData() = default;
            TestData(const TestData& other)
                :QSharedData(other)
                ,m_numList(other.m_numList)
            {
                m_iter=m_numList.begin() + std::distance(other.m_numList.constBegin(),QHash<int,int>::const_iterator(other.m_iter));
            }
            TestData()
                :QSharedData()
                , m_numList({std::make_pair(1,1),std::make_pair(2,2),std::make_pair(3,3),std::make_pair(4,4)})
                {m_iter=m_numList.begin();}
        };
        
        class TestWrap{
        
            QExplicitlySharedDataPointer<TestData> m_d;
        public:
            TestWrap(const TestWrap& other)=default;
            TestWrap()
                :m_d(new TestData)
            {}
            void setFirstValue(int val){
                if(m_d->numList().begin().value()==val)
                    return;
                m_d.detach();
                m_d->setFirstValue(val);
            }
            int getFirstVal(){
                return *(m_d->iter());
        
            }
        
        };
        
        int main(/*int argc, char *argv[]*/)
        {
                TestWrap container1;
                auto container2 = container1;
                container1.setFirstValue(5);
                Q_ASSERT(container1.getFirstVal()==5); //ok
                Q_ASSERT(container2.getFirstVal()==1); //fail randomly
        
                TestWrap container3;
                auto container4 = container3;
                container4.setFirstValue(5);
                Q_ASSERT(container4.getFirstVal()==5);
                Q_ASSERT(container3.getFirstVal()==1);
        
        
                return 0;
        }
        

        looks like the detached from container might end up rehashing itself anyway

        P.S.
        this is not hungarian. QExplicitlySharedDataPointer<TestData> esdptdm_d is proper hungarian. I think that is dead with modern IDEs easily telling you the type of a variable

        "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
        ~Napoleon Bonaparte

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        • VRoninV VRonin

          @kshegunov said in iterators in QSharedData:

          Yeah, I forgot that little detail

          and I forgot that constructor. good spot!

          Unfortunately QHash seems a lost cause see the main below:

          #include <QExplicitlySharedDataPointer>
          #include <QSharedData>
          #include <QDebug>
          #include <iterator>
          class TestData : public QSharedData{
              QHash<int,int> m_numList;
              QHash<int,int>::iterator m_iter;
          public:
              const QHash<int,int>& numList() const
              {
              return m_numList;
              }
              void setFirstValue(int val){
                  m_numList.begin().value()=val;
              }
              void setNumList(const QHash<int,int> &numList)
              {
              m_numList = numList;
              }
          
              const QHash<int,int>::iterator& iter() const
              {
              return m_iter;
              }
          
              void setIter(const QHash<int,int>::iterator &iter)
              {
              m_iter = iter;
              }
          
          
              ~TestData() = default;
              TestData(const TestData& other)
                  :QSharedData(other)
                  ,m_numList(other.m_numList)
              {
                  m_iter=m_numList.begin() + std::distance(other.m_numList.constBegin(),QHash<int,int>::const_iterator(other.m_iter));
              }
              TestData()
                  :QSharedData()
                  , m_numList({std::make_pair(1,1),std::make_pair(2,2),std::make_pair(3,3),std::make_pair(4,4)})
                  {m_iter=m_numList.begin();}
          };
          
          class TestWrap{
          
              QExplicitlySharedDataPointer<TestData> m_d;
          public:
              TestWrap(const TestWrap& other)=default;
              TestWrap()
                  :m_d(new TestData)
              {}
              void setFirstValue(int val){
                  if(m_d->numList().begin().value()==val)
                      return;
                  m_d.detach();
                  m_d->setFirstValue(val);
              }
              int getFirstVal(){
                  return *(m_d->iter());
          
              }
          
          };
          
          int main(/*int argc, char *argv[]*/)
          {
                  TestWrap container1;
                  auto container2 = container1;
                  container1.setFirstValue(5);
                  Q_ASSERT(container1.getFirstVal()==5); //ok
                  Q_ASSERT(container2.getFirstVal()==1); //fail randomly
          
                  TestWrap container3;
                  auto container4 = container3;
                  container4.setFirstValue(5);
                  Q_ASSERT(container4.getFirstVal()==5);
                  Q_ASSERT(container3.getFirstVal()==1);
          
          
                  return 0;
          }
          

          looks like the detached from container might end up rehashing itself anyway

          P.S.
          this is not hungarian. QExplicitlySharedDataPointer<TestData> esdptdm_d is proper hungarian. I think that is dead with modern IDEs easily telling you the type of a variable

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          wrote on last edited by kshegunov
          #10

          @VRonin said in iterators in QSharedData:

          m_iter=m_numList.begin() + std::distance(other.m_numList.constBegin(),QHash<int,int>::const_iterator(other.m_iter));
          

          You can't do that! Not with hashes anyway, your iterators are not guaranteed to be contiguous nor ordered and that it sometimes may work is mere luck. You need to do something like what I wrote - moving to and fro around the iterators you get from QHash::find.

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            wrote on last edited by VRonin
            #11

            Zobie-ing this topic for a related quetsion:

            From http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/containers.html#stl-style-iterators

            Implicit sharing has another consequence on STL-style iterators: you should avoid copying a container while iterators are active on that container. The iterators point to an internal structure, and if you copy a container you should be very careful with your iterators.

            the example there creates the iterator before copying but now imagine this scenario:

            QHash<int,int> intList1 = {{1,2},{3,4},{5,6},{7,8}};
                auto intList2 = intList1; // shared
                auto iter1 = intList1.begin();
                auto iter2 = intList2.begin();
            
                *iter2 =0; //detach
                for(;iter1!=intList1.end();++iter1)
                    qDebug() << *iter1;
                for(;iter2!=intList2.end();++iter2)
                    qDebug() << *iter2;
            

            or:

            QHash<int,int> intList1 = {{1,2},{3,4},{5,6},{7,8}};
                auto intList2 = intList1; // shared
                auto iter1 = intList1.begin();
                auto iter2 = intList2.begin();     
            
                *iter1 =0; //detach
                for(;iter1!=intList1.end();++iter1)
                    qDebug() << *iter1;
                for(;iter2!=intList2.end();++iter2)
                    qDebug() << *iter2;
                    return 0;
            

            They all work correctly.
            Same original questions:

            • Why?
            • Can I count on this to work going forward?

            "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
            ~Napoleon Bonaparte

            On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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            • VRoninV VRonin

              Zobie-ing this topic for a related quetsion:

              From http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/containers.html#stl-style-iterators

              Implicit sharing has another consequence on STL-style iterators: you should avoid copying a container while iterators are active on that container. The iterators point to an internal structure, and if you copy a container you should be very careful with your iterators.

              the example there creates the iterator before copying but now imagine this scenario:

              QHash<int,int> intList1 = {{1,2},{3,4},{5,6},{7,8}};
                  auto intList2 = intList1; // shared
                  auto iter1 = intList1.begin();
                  auto iter2 = intList2.begin();
              
                  *iter2 =0; //detach
                  for(;iter1!=intList1.end();++iter1)
                      qDebug() << *iter1;
                  for(;iter2!=intList2.end();++iter2)
                      qDebug() << *iter2;
              

              or:

              QHash<int,int> intList1 = {{1,2},{3,4},{5,6},{7,8}};
                  auto intList2 = intList1; // shared
                  auto iter1 = intList1.begin();
                  auto iter2 = intList2.begin();     
              
                  *iter1 =0; //detach
                  for(;iter1!=intList1.end();++iter1)
                      qDebug() << *iter1;
                  for(;iter2!=intList2.end();++iter2)
                      qDebug() << *iter2;
                      return 0;
              

              They all work correctly.
              Same original questions:

              • Why?
              • Can I count on this to work going forward?
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              wrote on last edited by
              #12

              @VRonin said in iterators in QSharedData:

              Why?

              No clue.

              Can I count on this to work going forward?

              Probably, as the containers don't change that much (at least not to my knowledge), however it will still be "undocumented behaviour" ...

              Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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              • VRoninV VRonin

                Zobie-ing this topic for a related quetsion:

                From http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/containers.html#stl-style-iterators

                Implicit sharing has another consequence on STL-style iterators: you should avoid copying a container while iterators are active on that container. The iterators point to an internal structure, and if you copy a container you should be very careful with your iterators.

                the example there creates the iterator before copying but now imagine this scenario:

                QHash<int,int> intList1 = {{1,2},{3,4},{5,6},{7,8}};
                    auto intList2 = intList1; // shared
                    auto iter1 = intList1.begin();
                    auto iter2 = intList2.begin();
                
                    *iter2 =0; //detach
                    for(;iter1!=intList1.end();++iter1)
                        qDebug() << *iter1;
                    for(;iter2!=intList2.end();++iter2)
                        qDebug() << *iter2;
                

                or:

                QHash<int,int> intList1 = {{1,2},{3,4},{5,6},{7,8}};
                    auto intList2 = intList1; // shared
                    auto iter1 = intList1.begin();
                    auto iter2 = intList2.begin();     
                
                    *iter1 =0; //detach
                    for(;iter1!=intList1.end();++iter1)
                        qDebug() << *iter1;
                    for(;iter2!=intList2.end();++iter2)
                        qDebug() << *iter2;
                        return 0;
                

                They all work correctly.
                Same original questions:

                • Why?
                • Can I count on this to work going forward?
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                #13

                @VRonin said in iterators in QSharedData:

                auto intList2 = intList1; // shared
                auto iter1 = intList1.begin();
                auto iter2 = intList2.begin();     
                
                *iter1 =0; //detach
                

                Excuse me, iter1 is not just readonly ?...

                Do what you want.

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                • Taz742T Taz742

                  @VRonin said in iterators in QSharedData:

                  auto intList2 = intList1; // shared
                  auto iter1 = intList1.begin();
                  auto iter2 = intList2.begin();     
                  
                  *iter1 =0; //detach
                  

                  Excuse me, iter1 is not just readonly ?...

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #14

                  @Taz742 said in iterators in QSharedData:

                  iter1 is not just readonly ?

                  no, if it was auto iter1 = intList1.cbegin(); then it would be

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                  • VRoninV VRonin

                    @Taz742 said in iterators in QSharedData:

                    iter1 is not just readonly ?

                    no, if it was auto iter1 = intList1.cbegin(); then it would be

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                    wrote on last edited by kshegunov
                    #15

                    On a related note, do you mind elaborating why do you need to keep an iterator over time? That's a pretty unusual thing to do.

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                    • kshegunovK kshegunov

                      On a related note, do you mind elaborating why do you need to keep an iterator over time? That's a pretty unusual thing to do.

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                      wrote on last edited by VRonin
                      #16

                      @kshegunov I'm writing a kind-of-wrapper* around QMap/QHash (safety warning: looking at this code might cause permanent brain damage) so my Container::iterator will just be a wrapper around QHash::iterator so I want to make sure my iterator does not accidentally become invalid when it shouldn't.

                      Unit tests are promising but I learned the hard way not to put to much confidence in them


                      *Reason is a user of a program supposed to have around 1k elements in the QHash abused it to hold 300k and blew it up. I needed a solution to allow the abuse without compromising too much efficiency in the usual use case and without redesigning the entire thing

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                      ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                      On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                      • VRoninV VRonin

                        @kshegunov I'm writing a kind-of-wrapper* around QMap/QHash (safety warning: looking at this code might cause permanent brain damage) so my Container::iterator will just be a wrapper around QHash::iterator so I want to make sure my iterator does not accidentally become invalid when it shouldn't.

                        Unit tests are promising but I learned the hard way not to put to much confidence in them


                        *Reason is a user of a program supposed to have around 1k elements in the QHash abused it to hold 300k and blew it up. I needed a solution to allow the abuse without compromising too much efficiency in the usual use case and without redesigning the entire thing

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                        #17

                        A formidable task. I'd approach it somewhat differently however. What I'd consider is implementing my own hash table (a drop-in replacement for QHash) that implements a paging scheme internally. Something like splitting the buckets and nodes into groups (pages) and swapping them to the file when memory's needed. Also a weighting scheme can be added, similarly to QCache, to keep the "most used" pages in memory. Unfortunately this would also run into the usual problems when regrowing the table and it may need some sort of incremental rehashing. One thing off the top of my head would be to use two hash functions - one which is to determine the bucket, as is done ordinarily, and one to identify the page (similarly to the ideas stated with linear hashing).

                        In fact it may be possible to skip the whole hash table implementation and to just proceed with an aggregating class, which will do the paging based on the stated scheme - using a second hash function to swap the tables to the disk. One possible problem I foresee though is that if the hash function doesn't spread the values enough some chunks may grow pretty big, so care should be taken to solve that.

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                          wrote on last edited by VRonin
                          #18

                          Hope you don't mind but I added your post to my issues so I do not lose it: https://github.com/VSRonin/QtHugeContainer/issues/1

                          "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                          ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                          On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                          • VRoninV VRonin

                            Hope you don't mind but I added your post to my issues so I do not lose it: https://github.com/VSRonin/QtHugeContainer/issues/1

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                            #19

                            Hope you don't mind but I added your post to my issues

                            Not in the least. Keep us posted, as this might prove pretty useful for me at some point :p

                            Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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