How do QThread::start and Worker::doWork related?

jronald

@J.Hilk OK. It seems that even a running thread could be moved from thread to thread, is it true?

VRonin

@jronald QThread is not the thread itself. it's a wrapper around it. I still don't see the point in moving a QThread object to another thread

J.Hilk

@jronald said in How do QThread::start and Worker::doWork related?:

@J.Hilk OK. It seems that even a running thread could be moved from thread to thread, is it true?

The QThread object itself just manages one thread. That said, it's not strictly necessary to move/asign your worker-object to the QThread-Object before it is started.

But if you create for example a QTimer in your worker and move it than later to an other QThread, that won't work. Iirc the Timer releated things are ignored/not executed.

That is also true if you create instances of classes that have internal time specific things.
For example I run into this, when I had an QSerialPort object that was created in the constructor, had to move it the an initialization function that was called after the QThread started.

kshegunov

@J.Hilk said in How do QThread::start and Worker::doWork related?:

But if you create for example a QTimer in your worker and move it than later to an other QThread, that won't work. Iirc the Timer releated things are ignored/not executed.

The timer should be stopped before moving to another thread, you can't move an active timer.

jronald

@J.Hilk @VRonin @kshegunov
Not clear, I think I'll try the native API. Thanks.

VRonin

@jronald said in How do QThread::start and Worker::doWork related?:

Not clear

Try taking a look at https://mayaposch.wordpress.com/2011/11/01/how-to-really-truly-use-qthreads-the-full-explanation/

kshegunov

@jronald said in How do QThread::start and Worker::doWork related?:

Not clear, I think I'll try the native API.

What isn't clear exactly?

jronald

@VRonin Thanks, though I've almost complete my project in a native way, I'll learn Qt to see if it is excellent.

jronald

@kshegunov

@kshegunov said in How do QThread::start and Worker::doWork related?:

@jronald said in How do QThread::start and Worker::doWork related?:

Not clear, I think I'll try the native API.

What isn't clear exactly?

Some questions can't be answered, for example:

what if many workers move to the same thread object
worker and QThread object are decoupled, what is the mechanism to keep both valid when working? By something like share_ptr?

beecksche

@jronald
I hope i understand your questions correctly.

By calling the QThread::start a new event loop is started. The objects moved to this QThread will be executed in that event loop. So if multiple objects are moved to the thread the operations are done in sequence.

To communicate between the objects moved to the thread and object in another thread you can use the signal/slot mechanism with queued connections.

Here a also useful informations: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5.8/threads-synchronizing.html and http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/threads-technologies.html

jronald

@beecksche The mechanism is general and robust, the trade off between runtime efficiency and develop efficiency while retaining the profession of C/C++ is very good.

kshegunov

@jronald said in How do QThread::start and Worker::doWork related?:

what if many workers move to the same thread object

The QObject::moveToThread method is not thread-safe. In consequence the object can be moved only from one thread and it is the one it exists in (see thread affinity). Aside from this there's no limit on how many worker objects can be moved into a thread. All the slot invocations across threads are queued (by default) in the thread's event queue and are dispatched to the relevant objects in sequence.

worker and QThread object are decoupled, what is the mechanism to keep both valid when working? By something like share_ptr?

That's up to you. I just connect all the needed signals and don't keep reference to either object, or I create them in the stack and leave the stack unwinding to take care of the objects' destruction. E.g:

QThread * thread = new QThread();
thread->start();

QObject * worker = new QObject(); // Or whatever type your worker is.
worker->moveToThread(thread);

// Connect worker and thread and w/e else is needed to be connected
QObject::connect(thread, &QThread::finished, worker, &QObject::deleteLater); // Takes care to delete the worker whenever the thread's quitting

// Do unrelated stuff ... ...

// Tell the thread to quit, wait for it and continue on
thread->quit();
thread->wait();

As QThread is already a QObject you can have it parented which means the parent will auto-delete the children whenever it is deleted itself.

jronald

@kshegunov The signal & slot mechanism just takes thread selection into consideration, others still keep simple, right? I think it's quite good.

kshegunov

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.