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  • ? A Former User

    Hi! Don't know anything about hieroglyphs, but if the language they represent has a context-free grammar, then you can express the rules in Backus-Naur form and process the source text with Flex and Bison.

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    @Wieland said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

    if the language they represent has a context-free grammar

    I have not encountered a natural (i.e. human) language that can be prescribed by a context-free grammar. Otherwise I completely agree, for what it's worth. :)

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    • ? A Former User

      Hi! Don't know anything about hieroglyphs, but if the language they represent has a context-free grammar, then you can express the rules in Backus-Naur form and process the source text with Flex and Bison.

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      @Wieland said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

      Hi! Don't know anything about hieroglyphs, but if the language they represent has a context-free grammar, then you can express the rules in Backus-Naur form and process the source text with Flex and Bison

      An example please

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      • BlasterB Blaster

        @Wieland said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

        Hi! Don't know anything about hieroglyphs, but if the language they represent has a context-free grammar, then you can express the rules in Backus-Naur form and process the source text with Flex and Bison

        An example please

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        #16

        @Blaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-free_grammar, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus–Naur_form

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        • VRoninV VRonin

          @Blaster said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

          The idea of this rule is to find the occurrence of consecutive patterns and leave only one occurrence

          put the patterns in a file, one by line. for each line do a replace with QRegularExpression replacing "(?:%1)+" with "%1" where %1 is the pattern

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          #17

          @VRonin
          In this case ... how do I make the regular expression capture the occurrence of equal letters without defining what the letter

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          • BlasterB Blaster

            Hello, I'm doing a text editor and I want to apply grammar rules to it. Any idea how to do it?
            I was thinking of loading a file with the rules so I could add rules in an easier way, but I can not think how to do it.
            Can anybody help me?

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            wrote on last edited by VRonin
            #18

            @Blaster said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

            I was thinking of loading a file with the rules

            without defining what the letter

            I'm confused now...

            let's say you have a UTF-8 text file (rules.txt) that contains:

            x
            xy
            

            You can use

            QString stringToTranslate("xyxyxx");
            QFile rulesFile("rules.txt");
            if(rulesFile.open(QFile::ReadOnly | QFile::Text)){
            QTextStream rulesStream(&rulesFile);
            rulesStream.setCodec("UTF-8");
            QString line;
            while (stream.readLineInto(&line))
            stringToTranslate.replace(QRegularExpression("(?:"+QRegularExpression::escape(line)+")+",line);
            }
            qDebug() << "Translated String: "+stringToTranslate;
            

            Is this what you wanted?

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            • VRoninV VRonin

              @Blaster said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

              I was thinking of loading a file with the rules

              without defining what the letter

              I'm confused now...

              let's say you have a UTF-8 text file (rules.txt) that contains:

              x
              xy
              

              You can use

              QString stringToTranslate("xyxyxx");
              QFile rulesFile("rules.txt");
              if(rulesFile.open(QFile::ReadOnly | QFile::Text)){
              QTextStream rulesStream(&rulesFile);
              rulesStream.setCodec("UTF-8");
              QString line;
              while (stream.readLineInto(&line))
              stringToTranslate.replace(QRegularExpression("(?:"+QRegularExpression::escape(line)+")+",line);
              }
              qDebug() << "Translated String: "+stringToTranslate;
              

              Is this what you wanted?

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              wrote on last edited by
              #19

              @VRonin
              What I really want to know is how to make a regular expression that checks the multiple occurrence of any pattern, not including some specific character in the expression.
              Something like, for example

              "x{2,}"
              

              that would match any string containing 2 or more repeated characters regardless of the character

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              • ? A Former User

                @Blaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-free_grammar, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus–Naur_form

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                #20

                @Wieland
                It is not grammar free of context, it is a gramática similar to the one of our languages

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  Imagine the input is xxxyxy do you want the output to be xxy or xy?

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                  • VRoninV VRonin

                    Imagine the input is xxxyxy do you want the output to be xxy or xy?

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #22

                    @VRonin
                    Just xy

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                      wrote on last edited by VRonin
                      #23

                      I know it's very inefficient but my brain can't optimise on Monday. At least it works:

                      
                      QString removeDuplicates(QString source){
                          for(int matchLen = source.size()/2; matchLen>0;--matchLen){
                              for(int startOfset=0;(2*matchLen)+startOfset<=source.size();){
                                  if(source.midRef(startOfset,matchLen)==source.midRef(matchLen+startOfset,matchLen))
                                      source.remove(matchLen+startOfset,matchLen);
                                  else
                                      ++startOfset;
                              }
                          }
                          return source;
                      }
                      

                      "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                      ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                      On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                      • VRoninV VRonin

                        I know it's very inefficient but my brain can't optimise on Monday. At least it works:

                        
                        QString removeDuplicates(QString source){
                            for(int matchLen = source.size()/2; matchLen>0;--matchLen){
                                for(int startOfset=0;(2*matchLen)+startOfset<=source.size();){
                                    if(source.midRef(startOfset,matchLen)==source.midRef(matchLen+startOfset,matchLen))
                                        source.remove(matchLen+startOfset,matchLen);
                                    else
                                        ++startOfset;
                                }
                            }
                            return source;
                        }
                        
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                        Blaster
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #24

                        @VRonin
                        I appreciate the effort, but I need to avoid using functions and that's why I'm talking about regular expressions. The code before the last one helps a lot.

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                        • BlasterB Blaster

                          @VRonin
                          I appreciate the effort, but I need to avoid using functions and that's why I'm talking about regular expressions. The code before the last one helps a lot.

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                          wrote on last edited by VRonin
                          #25

                          @Blaster said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

                          but I need to avoid using functions

                          I'm confused... can I ask why?

                          The code before the last one helps a lot

                          QString stringToTranslate("zxxxyxyxyxxzz");
                          
                          for(int matchLen = stringToTranslate.size()/2; matchLen>0;--matchLen){
                                  for(int startOfset=0;(2*matchLen)+startOfset<=stringToTranslate.size();){
                                      if(stringToTranslate.midRef(startOfset,matchLen)==stringToTranslate.midRef(matchLen+startOfset,matchLen))
                                          stringToTranslate.remove(matchLen+startOfset,matchLen);
                                      else
                                          ++startOfset;
                                  }
                              }
                          
                          qDebug() << "Translated String: "+stringToTranslate;
                          

                          "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                          ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                          On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                          • VRoninV VRonin

                            @Blaster said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

                            but I need to avoid using functions

                            I'm confused... can I ask why?

                            The code before the last one helps a lot

                            QString stringToTranslate("zxxxyxyxyxxzz");
                            
                            for(int matchLen = stringToTranslate.size()/2; matchLen>0;--matchLen){
                                    for(int startOfset=0;(2*matchLen)+startOfset<=stringToTranslate.size();){
                                        if(stringToTranslate.midRef(startOfset,matchLen)==stringToTranslate.midRef(matchLen+startOfset,matchLen))
                                            stringToTranslate.remove(matchLen+startOfset,matchLen);
                                        else
                                            ++startOfset;
                                    }
                                }
                            
                            qDebug() << "Translated String: "+stringToTranslate;
                            
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                            Blaster
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #26

                            @VRonin
                            That helps, because I can put in the file all the combinations and then apply them to the string

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                            • BlasterB Blaster

                              @VRonin
                              What I really want to know is how to make a regular expression that checks the multiple occurrence of any pattern, not including some specific character in the expression.
                              Something like, for example

                              "x{2,}"
                              

                              that would match any string containing 2 or more repeated characters regardless of the character

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #27

                              @Blaster said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

                              how to make a regular expression that checks the multiple occurrence of any pattern

                              @Blaster said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

                              because I can put in the file all the combinations and then apply them to the string

                              I'm totally lost now. If somebody else has ideas please step forward

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                              ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                              On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                              • VRoninV VRonin

                                @Blaster said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

                                how to make a regular expression that checks the multiple occurrence of any pattern

                                @Blaster said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

                                because I can put in the file all the combinations and then apply them to the string

                                I'm totally lost now. If somebody else has ideas please step forward

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                                Blaster
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #28

                                @VRonin
                                Let's see, I am Cuban guy and my English is not very strong, I only defend a little.
                                I explain to you better so you understand.
                                I have an application in which it is necessary to apply certain rules, one of which I mentioned to you, that of the patterns. This application does not work only in a language and I need to make that the processing of the rules be independent of the language of the application, so I need the rules in a file to be able to make changes when you want to change in some rules or to be able to add a new rule without having to program again

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #29

                                  Hi @Blaster, I'll repeat @VRonin's question:

                                  Why do you need to avoid using functions?

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                                    wrote on last edited by VRonin
                                    #30

                                    If I understand correctly you want a file containing all operations that should be done to the string (removing duplicates being just one of them).

                                    If your rules can all be expressed in terms of regular expression replaces then it's fairly easy, for example the duplicates one would be: (.+)\1+

                                    otherwise you'll need to use some form of syntax. probably the most straightforward way is to express operations in terms of ECMAScript (JavaScript) functions and use Qt Script to run them

                                    "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                                    ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                                    On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                                    • JKSHJ JKSH

                                      Hi @Blaster, I'll repeat @VRonin's question:

                                      Why do you need to avoid using functions?

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                                      Blaster
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #31

                                      @JKSH said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

                                      Hi @Blaster, I'll repeat @VRonin's question:

                                      Why do you need to avoid using functions?

                                      Because I will change the rules after finishing the application

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                                      • VRoninV VRonin

                                        If I understand correctly you want a file containing all operations that should be done to the string (removing duplicates being just one of them).

                                        If your rules can all be expressed in terms of regular expression replaces then it's fairly easy, for example the duplicates one would be: (.+)\1+

                                        otherwise you'll need to use some form of syntax. probably the most straightforward way is to express operations in terms of ECMAScript (JavaScript) functions and use Qt Script to run them

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                                        Blaster
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #32

                                        @VRonin said in How to apply rules of grammar?:

                                        If I understand correctly you want a file containing all operations that should be done to the string (removing duplicates being just one of them).
                                        If your rules can all be expressed in terms of regular expression replaces then it's fairly easy, for example the duplicates one would be: (.+)\1
                                        otherwise you'll need to use some form of syntax. probably the most straightforward way is to express operations in terms of ECMAScript (JavaScript) functions and use Qt Script to run them

                                        Yes, you understood correctly.
                                        That's what I'm talking about.

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