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  • K kshegunov
    28 Jan 2017, 21:39

    @tomy said in Showing numbers in decimal not scientific notation:

    Don't be that sure. :)

    Yes! There's a typo in the code ... :)

    ss = qFuzzyCompare(expression(),
                     static_cast<qint64>(expression()) ? //< Missing a )
                     QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression())) :
                     QString::number(expression(), 'f')); //< Extra )
    

    What you want is to have the if with qFuzzyCompare, not with the static cast. It should rather read like this:

    ss = qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression())) ?
                     QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression())) :
                     QString::number(expression(), 'f');
    

    If you wish you can of course use the usual if-else construct, not the ternary operator, so the last snippet'd be equivalent to:

    if (qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression()))
        ss = QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression()));
    else
        ss = QString::number(expression(), 'f');
    
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    • K kshegunov
      28 Jan 2017, 21:39

      @tomy said in Showing numbers in decimal not scientific notation:

      Don't be that sure. :)

      Yes! There's a typo in the code ... :)

      ss = qFuzzyCompare(expression(),
                       static_cast<qint64>(expression()) ? //< Missing a )
                       QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression())) :
                       QString::number(expression(), 'f')); //< Extra )
      

      What you want is to have the if with qFuzzyCompare, not with the static cast. It should rather read like this:

      ss = qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression())) ?
                       QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression())) :
                       QString::number(expression(), 'f');
      

      If you wish you can of course use the usual if-else construct, not the ternary operator, so the last snippet'd be equivalent to:

      if (qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression()))
          ss = QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression()));
      else
          ss = QString::number(expression(), 'f');
      
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      wrote on 31 Jan 2017, 12:55 last edited by tomy
      #32

      @kshegunov

      What you want is to have the if with qFuzzyCompare, not with the static cast. It should rather read like this:

      ss = qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression())) ?
                       QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression())) :
                       QString::number(expression(), 'f');
      

      If you wish you can of course use the usual if-else construct, not the ternary operator, so the last snippet'd be equivalent to:

      if (qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression()))
          ss = QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression()));
      else
          ss = QString::number(expression(), 'f');
      

      Sorry, I don't know how I tested it but it doesn't work as it's expected! :(
      for example:
      2 + 3 = 5 OK
      10 ^ 6 = 1000000 OK
      2 + 1.5 = 3.500000 !!!

      That is, the function QString::number(expression(), 'f'); (with the default precision 6) shows all range of precision whether it's need or not!

      Maybe it's what we need:
      http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtextstream.html#setRealNumberNotation
      But how to use it? Docs doesn't offer a little example of it to show how beginners should use it. !!!!!!
      (Docs are not for learners/beginners, they are for professionals — if they are professional, so they don't need Docs much => Docs are not useful)

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      • T tomy
        31 Jan 2017, 12:55

        @kshegunov

        What you want is to have the if with qFuzzyCompare, not with the static cast. It should rather read like this:

        ss = qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression())) ?
                         QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression())) :
                         QString::number(expression(), 'f');
        

        If you wish you can of course use the usual if-else construct, not the ternary operator, so the last snippet'd be equivalent to:

        if (qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression()))
            ss = QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression()));
        else
            ss = QString::number(expression(), 'f');
        

        Sorry, I don't know how I tested it but it doesn't work as it's expected! :(
        for example:
        2 + 3 = 5 OK
        10 ^ 6 = 1000000 OK
        2 + 1.5 = 3.500000 !!!

        That is, the function QString::number(expression(), 'f'); (with the default precision 6) shows all range of precision whether it's need or not!

        Maybe it's what we need:
        http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtextstream.html#setRealNumberNotation
        But how to use it? Docs doesn't offer a little example of it to show how beginners should use it. !!!!!!
        (Docs are not for learners/beginners, they are for professionals — if they are professional, so they don't need Docs much => Docs are not useful)

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        wrote on 31 Jan 2017, 23:13 last edited by kshegunov 2 Jan 2017, 00:00
        #33

        What you want to do in the floating point case is not at all trivial. Here you can read on that topic if you are willing to digest the math.

        The simpler but inefficient approach is to save the floating point text representation and just discard all the trailing 0 characters manually.

        EDIT:
        Here's (probably) the most concise way, but requires knowledge of regular expressions, which is yet again for you to read on to understand how or why it works:

        if (qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression()))
            ss = QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression()));
        else  {
            ss = QString::number(expression(), 'f', 17);
            ss.replace(QRegularExpression("\\.?0+$"), "");
        }
        

        (Docs are not for learners/beginners, they are for professionals — if they are professional, so they don't need Docs much => Docs are not useful)

        You got that backwards. The point of the Qt docs is they are a documentation for Qt itself, they will give no instruction into C++, its types, the types' memory layout and other such technical topics. If you are in need of that, then you need to look elsewhere, for example http://en.cppreference.com/w/

        Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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        • K kshegunov
          31 Jan 2017, 23:13

          What you want to do in the floating point case is not at all trivial. Here you can read on that topic if you are willing to digest the math.

          The simpler but inefficient approach is to save the floating point text representation and just discard all the trailing 0 characters manually.

          EDIT:
          Here's (probably) the most concise way, but requires knowledge of regular expressions, which is yet again for you to read on to understand how or why it works:

          if (qFuzzyCompare(expression(), static_cast<qint64>(expression()))
              ss = QString::number(static_cast<qint64>(expression()));
          else  {
              ss = QString::number(expression(), 'f', 17);
              ss.replace(QRegularExpression("\\.?0+$"), "");
          }
          

          (Docs are not for learners/beginners, they are for professionals — if they are professional, so they don't need Docs much => Docs are not useful)

          You got that backwards. The point of the Qt docs is they are a documentation for Qt itself, they will give no instruction into C++, its types, the types' memory layout and other such technical topics. If you are in need of that, then you need to look elsewhere, for example http://en.cppreference.com/w/

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          wrote on 1 Feb 2017, 10:00 last edited by
          #34

          @kshegunov

          The point of the Qt docs is they are a documentation for Qt itself, they will give no instruction into C++, its types, the types' memory layout and other such technical topics.

          Thanks but I didn't talk about C++, but Docs.
          I thought we can look at the Docs as a set of instructions useful for learners to be used to Qt, because they have been frequently suggested to new comers of Qt for reading.
          Thanks also for your code.

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          • T tomy
            1 Feb 2017, 10:00

            @kshegunov

            The point of the Qt docs is they are a documentation for Qt itself, they will give no instruction into C++, its types, the types' memory layout and other such technical topics.

            Thanks but I didn't talk about C++, but Docs.
            I thought we can look at the Docs as a set of instructions useful for learners to be used to Qt, because they have been frequently suggested to new comers of Qt for reading.
            Thanks also for your code.

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            jsulm
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            wrote on 1 Feb 2017, 10:35 last edited by
            #35

            @tomy Qt documentation is not a set of instructions and it will never be. It is just not possible to have instructions for every use case you can imagine.
            Qt documentation documents Qt API and provides some examples. For specific use cases you need to think about it, read Qt documentation, try out. This is same for all frameworks I was using so far.

            https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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              kenchan
              wrote on 1 Feb 2017, 11:43 last edited by kenchan 2 Jan 2017, 14:21
              #36

              You are wasting your time trying to learn programming and c++ just by looking at the Qt docs... talk about an uphill hike :p

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              • T tomy
                1 Feb 2017, 10:00

                @kshegunov

                The point of the Qt docs is they are a documentation for Qt itself, they will give no instruction into C++, its types, the types' memory layout and other such technical topics.

                Thanks but I didn't talk about C++, but Docs.
                I thought we can look at the Docs as a set of instructions useful for learners to be used to Qt, because they have been frequently suggested to new comers of Qt for reading.
                Thanks also for your code.

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                kshegunov
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                wrote on 1 Feb 2017, 19:30 last edited by kshegunov 2 Jan 2017, 19:31
                #37

                @tomy said in Showing numbers in decimal not scientific notation:

                I thought we can look at the Docs as a set of instructions useful for learners to be used to Qt, because they have been frequently suggested to new comers of Qt for reading.

                You can, but the implication is you have a decent knowledge of C++ before that, as Qt is a library that's written and intended to be used from (among others) C++ code. So these are two separate issues you need to address. Learning about Qt without a good fundament is (and always will be) a very, very hard thing to do. Think about it like this, you wouldn't start writing a book in a foreign language, unless you're very intimately familiar with the actual language, right?

                Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                • K kshegunov
                  1 Feb 2017, 19:30

                  @tomy said in Showing numbers in decimal not scientific notation:

                  I thought we can look at the Docs as a set of instructions useful for learners to be used to Qt, because they have been frequently suggested to new comers of Qt for reading.

                  You can, but the implication is you have a decent knowledge of C++ before that, as Qt is a library that's written and intended to be used from (among others) C++ code. So these are two separate issues you need to address. Learning about Qt without a good fundament is (and always will be) a very, very hard thing to do. Think about it like this, you wouldn't start writing a book in a foreign language, unless you're very intimately familiar with the actual language, right?

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                  wrote on 1 Feb 2017, 19:53 last edited by
                  #38

                  @kshegunov
                  First off, I like your attitude. And I wish we all believe in Democracy. Indeed, I use a book for learning Qt. But it's sometimes possible to refer to a good resource for a topic. I know Docs are in a high position in Qt folk's perspectives, but if I can use democracy and say my opinion, I say, "I have not found them useful up to now".
                  It may change. I've joined Qt just recently.
                  Thanks for your talks.

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                  • T tomy
                    1 Feb 2017, 19:53

                    @kshegunov
                    First off, I like your attitude. And I wish we all believe in Democracy. Indeed, I use a book for learning Qt. But it's sometimes possible to refer to a good resource for a topic. I know Docs are in a high position in Qt folk's perspectives, but if I can use democracy and say my opinion, I say, "I have not found them useful up to now".
                    It may change. I've joined Qt just recently.
                    Thanks for your talks.

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                    jsulm
                    Lifetime Qt Champion
                    wrote on 2 Feb 2017, 09:22 last edited by
                    #39

                    @tomy It is perfectly fine to tell others your opinion. But it is as well perfectly fine for others to disagree with you :-)

                    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                      J.Hilk
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                      wrote on 2 Feb 2017, 10:13 last edited by
                      #40

                      Hi,

                      for your specific situation, I would suggest something like:

                      QString truncValue(double value, int prec)
                      {
                          QString sReturn = QString::number(value,'f',prec);
                          if(sReturn.endsWith("0")){
                              while(sReturn.endsWith("0"))
                                  sReturn.remove(sReturn.length()-1,1);
                      
                              if(sReturn.endsWith("."))
                                  sReturn.remove(sReturn.length()-1,1);
                          }
                          
                          return sReturn;
                      }
                      

                      But, this is successively chaining a lot of string operations. The previously mentions methods are probably better.


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                      • J J.Hilk
                        2 Feb 2017, 10:13

                        Hi,

                        for your specific situation, I would suggest something like:

                        QString truncValue(double value, int prec)
                        {
                            QString sReturn = QString::number(value,'f',prec);
                            if(sReturn.endsWith("0")){
                                while(sReturn.endsWith("0"))
                                    sReturn.remove(sReturn.length()-1,1);
                        
                                if(sReturn.endsWith("."))
                                    sReturn.remove(sReturn.length()-1,1);
                            }
                            
                            return sReturn;
                        }
                        

                        But, this is successively chaining a lot of string operations. The previously mentions methods are probably better.

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                        wrote on 2 Feb 2017, 14:26 last edited by
                        #41

                        @J.Hilk
                        Thank you for the code.
                        honestly, I solved the issue two or three days ago. When I found I can't rely on a function offered by Qt on this specific problem, I returned to my old friend, C++, and solved the issue using it.
                        But I appreciate your paying attention to the problem.

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