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    Gourmet
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    I used QtCreator with older Qt versions since 2.2, through 3.x. Now I use QtCreator 4.0.1 with Qt5.6.1 but I cannot see major difference between it's QtDesigner and ancient one from Qt 3.x (I already don't remember 2.x). Through years Designer remains the same with ugly functionality, glitches and terrible limitations. You added new connection in editor? You will not see it, it is somewhere on top or bottom, you must yet scroll to it. You need set type of signal/slot connection? NO, it is not possible. You created plugin to use in Designer? You will restart QtCreator after each compilation. And you will not have any debugging features while testing plugin in Designer. And others, others, others "no, it is not possible" or "made at 90th" features. Is there anybody now creating NEW QtDesigner? Are there at least plans for it? WHEN???!!
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      SGaist
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      Hi,

      This is the wrong channel for such questions. You should bring them to the interest mailing list. You'll find there Qt's developers/maintainers. This forum is more user oriented.

      Out of curiosity, what project did you work on that made you use Qt Creator with Qt 2.2 ?

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      • SGaistS SGaist

        Hi,

        This is the wrong channel for such questions. You should bring them to the interest mailing list. You'll find there Qt's developers/maintainers. This forum is more user oriented.

        Out of curiosity, what project did you work on that made you use Qt Creator with Qt 2.2 ?

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        @SGaist I worked with Qt 2.2 at 90-s.

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          SGaist
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          That's what I've guessed hence my question since Qt Creator first release was in 2009.

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          • SGaistS SGaist

            That's what I've guessed hence my question since Qt Creator first release was in 2009.

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            @SGaist May be this was not at 90-s but beginning of 00-s. More than 15 years ago. But I remember some interface editor in Qt3 - I worked with it at 2005-2006. But this all doesn't matter. Since it's begining Designer remains uncomfortable... Like it was developed by beginner.

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              What features are missing from Designer from your point of view ?

              From what you wrote, you seem to have several ideas to improve Designer therefore you could provide patches to make it better.

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              • SGaistS SGaist

                What features are missing from Designer from your point of view ?

                From what you wrote, you seem to have several ideas to improve Designer therefore you could provide patches to make it better.

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                @SGaist I did not write list of needed features - but it will be long enough. I do not think it can be done by just several patches. It requires attention and efforts from people who well knows it's structure. At least plugin reloading will change it's core. And lots of interface improovments must be developed carefully.

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                  Chris Kawa
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                  Is there anybody now creating NEW QtDesigner? Are there at least plans for it? WHEN???!!

                  Keep in mind that the widgets module is considered "done", so, while minor improvements to various parts of it are occasionally happening, don't expect an overhaul of the designer because of an angry rant of one user on the forum. AFAIK there is no major work done on the designer and the focus is on the declarative designer (QML).

                  If you want anything done you'll have to be more constructive - as SGaist mentioned, make a detailed list of what features you would like and post them to Jira. Don't throw everything into one item. It's definitely not gonna happen that way. Provide as much info as you can - details, reasoning, possible implementation. Talk to the developers on the mailing list. Lobby your ideas a little. Complaining here on user's forum is like screaming at a night sky.
                  Most importantly - don't expect a major taskforce created right away and all your problems solved in the next release. That's definitely not happening. More likely is that, if you provide enough assistance, small improvements will pop up one by one in a longer stretch.

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                    As a note:

                    • You created plugin to use in Designer? You will restart QtCreator after each compilation. And you will not have any debugging features while testing plugin in Designer.

                    No, you just start another Creator and debug from there.

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