Tizen - the New Operating System
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Bad news from Tizen mailing lists:
Carsten Haitzler wrote:
bq. for native, tizen uses EFL ( http://www.enlightenment.org ). EFL does not
preclude the ability to have an use other toolkits/libraries. the EFL API is a
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Hi all,
I am aware that this post has not been updated for quite a while. But on the ocassion Tizen releasing its first SDK and architecture overview,
"Tizen Overview":https://source.tizen.org/platform_overview.html
I would like to ask if there are any 'rumors' now about Qt in the core of tizen?
cheers
simon -
[quote author="simonbolek" date="1326445388"]I would like to ask if there are any 'rumors' now about Qt in the core of tizen?
[/quote]I haven't heart any rumors yet. I had brief glance of the released "Tizen documentation":https://developer.tizen.org/doc.html and I didn't see anything about Qt :(
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@simonbolek Nothing.
Tizen Core work on EFL now. You can check it if you look on Tizen sources on official site.
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Hm, I'm not so happy :(
Qt development in mobil devices, in the future:
Meego and Tizen won't be supported by Nokia (we have only one Meego device = N9).
WP7 is a completely different line.
We have only Symbian Anna/Belle (S60? hahaha...) which are, I think, bad line for Nokia (and for us...).
So, I don't believe in the "next billion" device with Qt. -
On the other hand, we can code for Android, which has majority of the market now :) And there is iOS post, which gives us even more market to aim at. And, last but not least, WP7 NDK is probably going to come in mid 2012.
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[quote author="sierdzio" date="1326470953"]On the other hand, we can code for Android, which has majority of the market now :) And there is iOS post, which gives us even more market to aim at. And, last but not least, WP7 NDK is probably going to come in mid 2012.[/quote]
I have only a small problem :)
I don't like Java.
I don't know Objective-C.
And in WP7-NDK which C++ will we have?:
MFC (oouuhhhh)?
WinForms?
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I've done some apps for Android without writing a single line in Java. I don't know the state of iOS port, so I can't say too much on that. It's still a QPA port, so most probably no or almost no Objective-C is needed.
@WP7 - C++ itself as the base, whatever you want on top. There is an ongoing poll on WP7 forum about Qt support, it's getting quite popular, and it was started by MS itself.
No need to complain, really. No need to be too angry at Nokia, too. Their resources aren't infinite, and well, their bosses do make their decisions, and will see the consequences. That's the beauty of the market economy - some day we will see, whether that was a good decision or not. Even if they would fail, Qt will live on. Trolls working on Qt are definitely investing 100% of their time into Qt, you can clearly see that if you watch amount of commits in all Qt repositories.
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http://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/110705-app-platform/suggestions/2440602-qt-support
Everyone has up to 3 votes, all can be given to one idea.
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[quote author="sierdzio" date="1326472643"]I've done some apps for Android without...[/quote]
I have programmed several years in Java, IMHO C++ is much better.
QPA port is only in basic state, as I know.
I can't belive in MS :)
And yes, I'm angry. Nokia made/make completely different decisions every half a year. This is annoying! They will lost our reliance. I see nothing clear line into the future...
I invested a lot of time in Qt, I have read several books, I've done all the 3 exams. At the end of this, the Nokia announced that they will propose the WP7 platform :( -
Well, I won't help you with your depression ;) at leas not on this forum. Sure, I'd love to see Nokia financing and implementing Qt on Android, iOS, WP, but this is not happening. Situation was/ seemed grim or even gave a year ago, true, but currently, I'm happy with how things are going. Community is kicking in, Trolls are still Trolls, Qt5 is progressing beautifully forwards, even RIM has Qt port now... no worries :D
Right, I think that's enough for an OT, let's allow others to continue their talk on Tizen.
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[quote author="sierdzio" date="1326472987"]http://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/110705-app-platform/suggestions/2440602-qt-support
Everyone has up to 3 votes, all can be given to one idea.[/quote]
Thanks. Let's make for some +3s.
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Hmmm... interesting. It "seems":http://www.forbes.com/sites/elizabethwoyke/2012/01/13/samsung-merging-its-bada-os-with-intel-backed-tizen-project/ Samsung is merging Bada into Tizen as well.
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Yes i look that site today and Qt is the third project :P
[quote author="sierdzio" date="1326472987"]http://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/110705-app-platform/suggestions/2440602-qt-support
Everyone has up to 3 votes, all can be given to one idea.[/quote]
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So no Qt in "new Tizen SDK":https://developer.tizen.org/sdk ....
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Videos of "all presentations during Tizen conference were published online":https://www.tizen.org/conference/tizen-developer-conference/schedule. Although HTML5 is the main topic I guess that many of you will be interested in.
