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  • AhtiA Ahti

    @VRonin

    Well that is difficult to understand and i don't know how to implement it.

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    jsulm
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    wrote on last edited by
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    @Ahti Why not just let the user use their preferred EMail client to send an EMail to you? See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28674805/open-default-mail-app-from-within-qt-with-some-html
    It is much easier and the user can use his/her EMail client.
    You still can have a form in your app (I guess you meant form not forum?), but then you pass that data via a mailto: URL to the system, which then opens the standard EMail client and fill the data user entered in your form.

    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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    • jsulmJ jsulm

      @Ahti Why not just let the user use their preferred EMail client to send an EMail to you? See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28674805/open-default-mail-app-from-within-qt-with-some-html
      It is much easier and the user can use his/her EMail client.
      You still can have a form in your app (I guess you meant form not forum?), but then you pass that data via a mailto: URL to the system, which then opens the standard EMail client and fill the data user entered in your form.

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      Ahti
      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      @jsulm
      Okay why would he has to login from the broswer and then use my app to send email to me ? Can't he simply login to his email account from my app and send mail to me from my app ? And yes i meant form not forum sorry for the mistake. And i used that "QDesktopService..." And it opens up MS outlook.

      what is a signature ?? Lol

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        mrjj
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        wrote on last edited by mrjj
        #20

        Ok. listen. we need to talk about sending emails.

        A program cannot just send email. It need the help of
        a mail server. That is another PC that has a post office program.
        Like GMAIL is. its a mail service.

        So for your program to send mails, you need to send via such server.

        That can happen

        1: You pop outlook via QDesktopService and the mail is sent over whatever server outlook is using.

        2: You send via a google account that your program knows username and password for.
        So before sending email via GOOGLE you will login to this account inside the program.
        This is part of the SMTP protocol.

        3: You use some online mail service where you can send email via some API.

        You could also ask user to login to his mail service but I would never give my password to any unknown program so it's not a good solution and also teaches the users to do stupid things.

        So the part you need to understand is that Sending email demands that the MAIL server knows who u are. So the programs need to supply username and password to the MAil server
        to be allowed to send anything.

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        • AhtiA Ahti

          @jsulm
          Okay why would he has to login from the broswer and then use my app to send email to me ? Can't he simply login to his email account from my app and send mail to me from my app ? And yes i meant form not forum sorry for the mistake. And i used that "QDesktopService..." And it opens up MS outlook.

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          jsulm
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          @Ahti To be sure: when you say "my app" you mean a desktop app? If so then there is no need to log-in from a browser, why do you think so? The user opens that dialog/form in your app, enters needed data (subject, message body) and presses the "Send" button. Then his/her default EMail client is opened where he/she send the EMail from there.

          https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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          • jsulmJ jsulm

            @Ahti To be sure: when you say "my app" you mean a desktop app? If so then there is no need to log-in from a browser, why do you think so? The user opens that dialog/form in your app, enters needed data (subject, message body) and presses the "Send" button. Then his/her default EMail client is opened where he/she send the EMail from there.

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            Ahti
            wrote on last edited by Ahti
            #22

            @jsulm yes from my desktop app how can i connect to user's email so that he can send email.

            what is a signature ?? Lol

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            • mrjjM mrjj

              Ok. listen. we need to talk about sending emails.

              A program cannot just send email. It need the help of
              a mail server. That is another PC that has a post office program.
              Like GMAIL is. its a mail service.

              So for your program to send mails, you need to send via such server.

              That can happen

              1: You pop outlook via QDesktopService and the mail is sent over whatever server outlook is using.

              2: You send via a google account that your program knows username and password for.
              So before sending email via GOOGLE you will login to this account inside the program.
              This is part of the SMTP protocol.

              3: You use some online mail service where you can send email via some API.

              You could also ask user to login to his mail service but I would never give my password to any unknown program so it's not a good solution and also teaches the users to do stupid things.

              So the part you need to understand is that Sending email demands that the MAIL server knows who u are. So the programs need to supply username and password to the MAil server
              to be allowed to send anything.

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              Ahti
              wrote on last edited by
              #23

              @mrjj yeah that is what i want, user should login to his mail account from my desktop app and then should sent mail from my desktop app.

              what is a signature ?? Lol

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              • AhtiA Ahti

                @jsulm yes from my desktop app how can i connect to user's email so that he can send email.

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                jsulm
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                wrote on last edited by
                #24

                @Ahti If you want that the user logs in from your app then the user must enter his EMail account data (server address/port, user name, password). That's why I suggested to not to do it this way but just start users EMail client (Outlook, Thunderbird, what ever). This is much easier and the user can use his/her EMail client.
                @mrjj already explained what needs to be done, so it is really not an easy task and overkill in my opinion.

                https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                  peteritv
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #25

                  Again, maybe I am completely out of line here since I am just a Qt beginner myself, but ur talking about browsers, right?
                  So you have some webserver that serves ur app, right?

                  If ur server is not able to handle SMTP (mail) then I think we're done talking.

                  Look at ur server! Not the app itself...

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                  • P peteritv

                    Again, maybe I am completely out of line here since I am just a Qt beginner myself, but ur talking about browsers, right?
                    So you have some webserver that serves ur app, right?

                    If ur server is not able to handle SMTP (mail) then I think we're done talking.

                    Look at ur server! Not the app itself...

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                    peteritv
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #26

                    @peteritv said in How can the user send email to me from my app ?:

                    Again, maybe I am completely out of line here since I am just a Qt beginner myself, but ur talking about browsers, right?
                    So you have some webserver that serves ur app, right?

                    If ur server is not able to handle SMTP (mail) then I think we're done talking.

                    Look at ur server! Not the app itself...

                    I do not believe that sending an e-mail from ur app to you has anything to do with mail suppliers or clients.
                    When I put a simple <a with a href to my e-mail account, anyone, no matter what, can send me an e-mail.

                    You can even put it in ur apps global stylesheet I guess...

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                    • P peteritv

                      @peteritv said in How can the user send email to me from my app ?:

                      Again, maybe I am completely out of line here since I am just a Qt beginner myself, but ur talking about browsers, right?
                      So you have some webserver that serves ur app, right?

                      If ur server is not able to handle SMTP (mail) then I think we're done talking.

                      Look at ur server! Not the app itself...

                      I do not believe that sending an e-mail from ur app to you has anything to do with mail suppliers or clients.
                      When I put a simple <a with a href to my e-mail account, anyone, no matter what, can send me an e-mail.

                      You can even put it in ur apps global stylesheet I guess...

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                      jsulm
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      @peteritv It is a desktop application as far as I know. See above, I already asked what exactly it is.

                      https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                        tham
                        wrote on last edited by tham
                        #28

                        user should login to his mail account from my desktop app and then should sent mail from my desktop app.

                        As jsulm mentioned, this is not a trivial task, the easiest solution is QDesktopServices::openUrl("mailto:youremail@address.com") as VRonin mentioned.
                        If you insist on implement smtp functions in your app, the most mature library of c++ I could think of is poco(c is libcurl).

                        Following are the example of using gmail by poco

                        #include <Poco/Net/MailMessage.h>
                        #include <Poco/Net/MailRecipient.h>
                        #include <Poco/Net/SMTPClientSession.h>
                        #include <Poco/Net/NetException.h>
                        #include <Poco/Net/SecureSMTPClientSession.h>
                        #include <Poco/Net/InvalidCertificateHandler.h>
                        #include <Poco/Net/AcceptCertificateHandler.h>
                        #include <Poco/Net/SSLManager.h>
                        #include <Poco/Net/SecureStreamSocket.h>
                        #include <Poco/Net/MailRecipient.h>
                        
                        #include <Poco/UnicodeConverter.h>
                        
                        #include <iomanip>
                        #include <iostream>
                        #include <string>
                        
                        int main()
                        {
                            using namespace Poco::Net;
                        
                            std::string const host("smtp.gmail.com");
                            int const port = 465;
                            std::string const sUserName("userEmail@gmail.com");
                            std::string const sPassword("whatever");
                            std::string const to("MyEmail@gmail.com");
                            std::string const from("myUser");
                            std::string const subject("new feature suggestion");
                            std::string const content("more animations");
                            Poco::Net::MailMessage message;
                        
                            try{
                                Poco::SharedPtr<InvalidCertificateHandler> pCert =
                                        new AcceptCertificateHandler(false);
                                Context::Ptr pContext =
                                        new Poco::Net::Context(Context::CLIENT_USE, "", "",
                                                               "", Context::VERIFY_NONE);
                                SSLManager::instance().initializeClient(0, pCert, pContext);
                        
                                SecureStreamSocket pSSLSocket(pContext);
                                pSSLSocket.connect(SocketAddress(host, port));
                                SecureSMTPClientSession secure(pSSLSocket);
                        
                                secure.login();
                                bool const tlsStarted = secure.startTLS(pContext);
                                std::cout<<"tls can start : "<<std::boolalpha<<tlsStarted<<std::endl;
                                secure.login(SMTPClientSession::AUTH_LOGIN, sUserName, sPassword);
                        
                                message.setSender(from);
                                message.addRecipient(MailRecipient(MailRecipient::PRIMARY_RECIPIENT, to));
                                message.setSubject(subject);
                                message.setContentType("text/plain; charset=UTF-8");
                                message.setContent(content, MailMessage::ENCODING_8BIT);
                        
                                std::cout<<"send message"<<std::endl;
                                secure.sendMessage(message);
                                std::cout<<"close sender"<<std::endl;
                                secure.close();
                            }catch(SMTPException &e){
                                std::cerr << e.code() << std::endl;
                                std::cerr << e.message() << std::endl;
                                std::cerr << e.what() << std::endl;
                                std::cerr << e.displayText().c_str() << std::endl;
                            }catch (NetException &e){
                                std::cerr << e.code() << std::endl;
                                std::cerr << e.message() << std::endl;
                                std::cerr << e.what() << std::endl;
                                std::cerr << e.displayText().c_str() << std::endl;
                            }catch(std::exception const &ex){
                                std::cerr<<ex.what()<<std::endl;
                            }
                        }
                        

                        Not every email server works with this example(I guess in most cases what you need to do is adjust the host and port), if you want to support different servers(gmail, hotmail etc), you will need to try them out one by one.

                        If you do not want to force the users enter their user name and password all of the times, you can save their input by QSettings(better ask the user they want to store their passwords and user name before they do that, and allowed them to remove it later).

                        However, I will prefer this simple SMTP class which only depends on Qt5, because dependency problems of c++ could be quite nasty to solve.

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                          jsulm
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          To be honest if I would be a user of such an application I would NEVER enter my login data for my EMail account! I only trust my EMail client. An application asking me for my EMail login data would be uninstalled immediately.

                          https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                          • mrjjM mrjj

                            Ok. listen. we need to talk about sending emails.

                            A program cannot just send email. It need the help of
                            a mail server. That is another PC that has a post office program.
                            Like GMAIL is. its a mail service.

                            So for your program to send mails, you need to send via such server.

                            That can happen

                            1: You pop outlook via QDesktopService and the mail is sent over whatever server outlook is using.

                            2: You send via a google account that your program knows username and password for.
                            So before sending email via GOOGLE you will login to this account inside the program.
                            This is part of the SMTP protocol.

                            3: You use some online mail service where you can send email via some API.

                            You could also ask user to login to his mail service but I would never give my password to any unknown program so it's not a good solution and also teaches the users to do stupid things.

                            So the part you need to understand is that Sending email demands that the MAIL server knows who u are. So the programs need to supply username and password to the MAil server
                            to be allowed to send anything.

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                            Ahti
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            @mrjj @peteritv @tham @jsulm

                            ok guys i used the desktopservice::openurl...mailto.. but its opening outlook what if user doesn't have outlook ? why can't i simply open the browser and let him login to his email server and when he/she is logged in i should go directly to compose email and then in 'to' section there should be my emailaddress . how to do that ?

                            what is a signature ?? Lol

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                            • AhtiA Ahti

                              @mrjj @peteritv @tham @jsulm

                              ok guys i used the desktopservice::openurl...mailto.. but its opening outlook what if user doesn't have outlook ? why can't i simply open the browser and let him login to his email server and when he/she is logged in i should go directly to compose email and then in 'to' section there should be my emailaddress . how to do that ?

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                              jsulm
                              Lifetime Qt Champion
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              @Ahti desktopservice::openurl will open the EMail client the user configured. In your case it looks like this is Outlook, for other users it can be something else (on my Linux machine it would open Thunderbird), no issue here.
                              Regarding your last question: not all users use web access to their EMail accounts and I don't think there is a standard way to pass all the data for the EMail to such web based EMail clients.

                              https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                              • AhtiA Ahti

                                I have a contact tab in my app in which i want to let user type his/her email, subject and body and whenever they click on submit button the mail should be send to my email address. How can i do that ?

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                                oniongarlic
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #32

                                @Ahti do you have your own public server? If so, then perhaps the most easy way would be to code a simple http API that your app (with somekind of authentication obviously) can do a simple http POST to, and that thing then sends the e-mail to you.

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