Chat about the opinions on Symbian^3



  • I would like to start a discussion on Symbian^3, what you guys are thinking about it.

    Comparing my old 5800 and my new N8, Symbian^3 has lots of improvements, but using my N8 everyday as my default phone, I am witnessing some issues on the OS level.

    I am waiting for the next update which it is expected during Q1 2011, what is your wishlist?



  • Can you describe or list out the issues.



  • First bug I discovered was if you are using the headphones and want to make a phone call and you want to lock your phone and place on your pocket, it will open the dialed numbers application and remove your dialed numbers there, and just show the window like that.

    Flicking through home screens should be more "real time"

    Sometimes it is slow on opening applications

    If you had your phone locked and someone called you, you would probably answer and the "key" system tray icon will disappear which makes you think that your phone is not locked then after the call it will remain for short on until it would lock itself but by then I see my self trying to open applications, because I see the home screen.

    These are small but annoying issues which I think Nokia knows about and we are expecting the next release.

    I have more but I cannot remember all the issues now.



  • I still feel like we can still remove many prompts which pops up .



  • [quote author="Immii" date="1293301845"]I still feel like we can still remove many prompts which pops up .[/quote]

    Are you talking about Symbian^3 prompts?



  • Oh, I can add issues, which I found too.

    Sometimes, if energy low and down, after charging and start, strange things happen:

    1. Disappear clock on lock screen, though it was be set.

    2. Not work "missed calls" widget - it was empty bar.

    3. Phone always try get geocode with GPRS/3G connection, even if Wi-Fi was connected.

    4. Sometimes camera make photo with fog, it seems as flash blind camera's eye.



  • oh! yes!

    The missed calls widget has a problem sometimes I need to reboot my phone in order to see my missed calls and messages.

    Also I can confirm the disappearance of lock screen clock.

    Sometimes also when I hit a button, I must hit it twice, on other times when I hit a button, nothing happens because the startup of the application is slow which makes me think I haven't touched it properly.



  • [quote author="Milot Shala" date="1293306313"]oh! yes!
    Sometimes also when I hit a button, I must hit it twice, on other times when I hit a button, nothing happens because the startup of the application is slow which makes me think I haven't touched it properly. [/quote]

    Confirmed. It happens very often first time after unlock.



  • Now these start-up issues are these with Qt Apps. I face similar issues with Qt apps on other devices like 5800 and N97.



  • [quote author="QtK" date="1293308452"]Now these start-up issues are these with Qt Apps. I face similar issues with Qt apps on other devices like 5800 and N97.[/quote]

    I think they are more Symbian^3 (apps built with Avkon) bugs rather than apps built with Qt bugs.



  • May be we can expect an update in January. E7 is also expected to be out, so we can expect one update by then.



  • [quote author="QtK" date="1293354903"]May be we can expect an update in January. E7 is also expected to be out, so we can expect one update by then. [/quote]

    Yes, they said so.



  • [quote author="QtK" date="1293354903"]May be we can expect an update in January. E7 is also expected to be out, so we can expect one update by then. [/quote]

    In January 2011 the next firmware is going to be arrived.

    Review of N8.
    I like the UI and widget style in the Symbian^3.
    N8 is good , It is very slow, as we compare it with the other high end mobiles.



  • [quote author="qtrahul" date="1293383042"]
    [quote author="QtK" date="1293354903"]May be we can expect an update in January. E7 is also expected to be out, so we can expect one update by then. [/quote]

    In January 2011 the next firmware is going to be arrived.

    Review of N8.
    I like the UI and widget style in the Symbian^3.
    N8 is good , It is very slow, as we compare it with the other high end mobiles.[/quote]

    Yes true, Symbian^3 is a very good Mobile OS indeed, but it needs to be polished more.

    As for the speed it's not a fault of the N8, I think rather it's on the OS, for this reason I am waiting for the update that will arrive on January.



  • On Nokia Developer Summit I have received an N8, which was a clear improvement compared to the earlier devices but it is still not there. I have used it for several weeks then I have returned to my N900 (there were several small issues like mail for exchange was not able to handle meeting requests).



  • [quote author="VCsala" date="1293385240"]On Nokia Developer Summit I have received an N8, which was a clear improvement compared to the earlier devices but it is still not there. I have used it for several weeks then I have returned to my N900 (there were several small issues like mail for exchange was not able to handle meeting requests).[/quote]

    Same situation here. I have received a Nokia N8 on Qt Developer Days 2010 on Munich, until then I was using a Nexus One, which is a perfect device and I am using N8 since by avoiding my Nexus One Android phone.

    Reason why I am using N8 is that I am a Qt developer and I write my programs and I want to use them on everyday basis, also here on the N8 I have 16gb internal memory and 12 megapixel camera.

    Indeed it is an improvement comparing to Nokia 5800 but still lacking on some basic functionality (especially on those written in the above post).

    But seeing the issues on the OS level, I always have hopes that they will be improved on the next update iteration.



  • [quote author="Milot Shala" date="1293385896"]But seeing the issues on the OS level, I always have hopes that they will be improved on the next update iteration.[/quote]

    In recent news and announcements they made several promises and I really hope they will keep them. In this case Symbian can become again a good platform with real maintenance and care from Nokia.



  • [quote author="VCsala" date="1293386186"][quote author="Milot Shala" date="1293385896"]But seeing the issues on the OS level, I always have hopes that they will be improved on the next update iteration.[/quote]

    In recent news and announcements they made several promises and I really hope they will keep them. In this case Symbian can become again a good platform with real maintenance and care from Nokia.[/quote]

    On what I am happy about that Nokia is taking the R&D of Symbian and let the Symbian Foundation only take care about legal and licensing part, for this reason I am really hoping for the change because Symbian is built for mobile phones, they didn't bring the desktop operating system to mobile as Apple did.

    Also in recent rumors I've heard about that Nokia and Microsoft are in discussion about WP7 phones but I don't see that it will happen, maybe the agreement is about the office suite on Nokia platforms but not the entire operating system.



  • Yes, as I remember we had similar opinions about that Symbian is for phones and Meego will be for tablets. In this portfolio I do not see place for WP7.



  • [quote author="VCsala" date="1293386837"]Yes, as I remember we had similar opinions about that Symbian is for phones and Meego will be for tablets. In this portfolio I do not see place for WP7.[/quote]

    True. But Microsoft fanatics are bugging me with these rumors, I hope they will soon end.

    What Nokia is trying to achieve with MeeGo is just what Google is doing with Android, bringing Android to TV's too. This was the motivation why MeeGo started in the first place but I think they were a bit late :(

    I am really excited to see what happens in this war and I know there are lots of Qt developers out there so Nokia has its army behind them ;)


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