Unlock qt in Russia
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We paid money. And can't get the product? Why are you doing it?
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@andr1312e Please contact QtCompany directly. This is user forum.
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@andr1312e
Решается легко:
Скачиваешь впн на компьютер, подойдет любой бесплатный.
На этом этапе перед тем как нажать кнопку "далее" включаешь впн, проходишь валидацию айпишника, после выключаешь впн.
После устанавливается все прекрасно. -
This seems to be from open-source installer.
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Is this OP freaking kidding!? All I can say is "WOW!"
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@andr1312e
Решается легко:
Скачиваешь впн на компьютер, подойдет любой бесплатный.
На этом этапе перед тем как нажать кнопку "далее" включаешь впн, проходишь валидацию айпишника, после выключаешь впн.
После устанавливается все прекрасно.@ShasOKais это ясно, просто те кто заплатил за это, в теории имеют право получить продукт. Им все равно на политические разборки. Иначе говоря это КИДАЛОВО от Qt
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Same and for the Open Source... I can't update using the Maintenance Tool:
LOOOOL ))
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@ShasOKais это ясно, просто те кто заплатил за это, в теории имеют право получить продукт. Им все равно на политические разборки. Иначе говоря это КИДАЛОВО от Qt
@andr1312e said in Unlock qt in Russia:
это ясно, просто те кто заплатил за это, в теории имеют право получить продукт. Им все равно на политические разборки. Иначе говоря это КИДАЛОВО от Qt
I would understand if the commercial version doesn't work even if you have paid for it. This is the way how sanctions work (though I am nor sure if there are any sanctions in place that would Qt require to comply). However, I don't understand how open source is not open... IMHO open source should not be political.
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@andr1312e said in Unlock qt in Russia:
это ясно, просто те кто заплатил за это, в теории имеют право получить продукт. Им все равно на политические разборки. Иначе говоря это КИДАЛОВО от Qt
I would understand if the commercial version doesn't work even if you have paid for it. This is the way how sanctions work (though I am nor sure if there are any sanctions in place that would Qt require to comply). However, I don't understand how open source is not open... IMHO open source should not be political.
@SimonSchroeder said in Unlock qt in Russia:
I would understand if the commercial version doesn't work even if you have paid for it
I disagree.
Not selling new licenses is fine.
Blocking the access to paid products and giving money back is also fine.
But not giving money back and not giving access to paid product is fraud in my opinion. -
This happens because the IP is detected to be in a country where we are not allowing downloads.
If you have paid for the license, then if you have not been contacted already then someone should be getting in touch with you very soon about this. Alternatively you can reach out to your contact in Qt Sales or DM me and I will get someone to get in touch.
Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct
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This happens because the IP is detected to be in a country where we are not allowing downloads.
If you have paid for the license, then if you have not been contacted already then someone should be getting in touch with you very soon about this. Alternatively you can reach out to your contact in Qt Sales or DM me and I will get someone to get in touch.
@AndyS So, QtCompany is endeed sanctioning Russia?
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@jsulm said in Unlock qt in Russia:
@AndyS So, QtCompany is endeed sanctioning Russia?
In the sense that there is an IP block on addresses originating from Russia yes.
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It is democraty and freedom.. as it is... LOL
Do you think the Russian open source community will continue to participate in improving Qt now?
F.e. I have less and less desire to do it now... after all these actions. )))
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It is democraty and freedom.. as it is... LOL
Do you think the Russian open source community will continue to participate in improving Qt now?
F.e. I have less and less desire to do it now... after all these actions. )))
@kuzulis said in Unlock qt in Russia:
It is democraty and freedom.. as it is... LOL
Do you think the Russian open source community will continue to participate in improving Qt now?
F.e. I have less and less desire to do it now... after all these actions. )))
If the Russian open source community chooses not to participate in improving Qt then that is their choice to make.
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@andr1312e said in Unlock qt in Russia:
это ясно, просто те кто заплатил за это, в теории имеют право получить продукт. Им все равно на политические разборки. Иначе говоря это КИДАЛОВО от Qt
I would understand if the commercial version doesn't work even if you have paid for it. This is the way how sanctions work (though I am nor sure if there are any sanctions in place that would Qt require to comply). However, I don't understand how open source is not open... IMHO open source should not be political.
@SimonSchroeder said in Unlock qt in Russia:
However, I don't understand how open source is not open... IMHO open source should not be political.
Everything is political, and while I feel for the regular person in Russia who was/is just as surprised and appalled by recent events, as I have friends there, the fact of the matter is that their president didn't fall out of the sky - he was elected; and as is usual the (full) price is going to be paid not by the government head but by his/hers people. This isn't at all limited to this particular instance, mind you, it's always the case that the people pay for the mistakes of their leaders.
Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct
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It is democraty and freedom.. as it is... LOL
Do you think the Russian open source community will continue to participate in improving Qt now?
F.e. I have less and less desire to do it now... after all these actions. )))
@kuzulis said in Unlock qt in Russia:
It is democraty and freedom.. as it is... LOL
Do you think the Russian open source community will continue to participate in improving Qt now?
F.e. I have less and less desire to do it now... after all these actions. )))
As far as I know, the QtCompany only restricted access to the precompiled Qt Libraries. You should still be able to access the git repos and compile it yourself. Loss of convenience but no exclusion.
Until Microsoft also restricts IP addresses, who knows when/if that will happen.
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@SimonSchroeder said in Unlock qt in Russia:
However, I don't understand how open source is not open... IMHO open source should not be political.
Everything is political, and while I feel for the regular person in Russia who was/is just as surprised and appalled by recent events, as I have friends there, the fact of the matter is that their president didn't fall out of the sky - he was elected; and as is usual the (full) price is going to be paid not by the government head but by his/hers people. This isn't at all limited to this particular instance, mind you, it's always the case that the people pay for the mistakes of their leaders.
@kshegunov said in Unlock qt in Russia:
@SimonSchroeder said in Unlock qt in Russia:
However, I don't understand how open source is not open... IMHO open source should not be political.
... their president didn't fall out of the sky - he was elected ...
It is not the truth, there is no true/free election in russian and belarus we have authoritarian or already totalitarian government, you can try googling about them and see that it is almost impossible for people to change it, we have tried (maybe not enough). At this moment for simple picket we can be arrested for days or years (and such a situation already for several years) and the governments have strong forces to suppress society using propaganda and cudgel.
I am not complaining and I am not asking you to forgive us, we deserved bullying and all the sanctions against us I just want to clarify that we don't have free election and many people around me didn't elect our government, and don't support this war and any others.
P.S. My grandfather is from Ukraine. -
@kshegunov said in Unlock qt in Russia:
@SimonSchroeder said in Unlock qt in Russia:
However, I don't understand how open source is not open... IMHO open source should not be political.
... their president didn't fall out of the sky - he was elected ...
It is not the truth, there is no true/free election in russian and belarus we have authoritarian or already totalitarian government, you can try googling about them and see that it is almost impossible for people to change it, we have tried (maybe not enough). At this moment for simple picket we can be arrested for days or years (and such a situation already for several years) and the governments have strong forces to suppress society using propaganda and cudgel.
I am not complaining and I am not asking you to forgive us, we deserved bullying and all the sanctions against us I just want to clarify that we don't have free election and many people around me didn't elect our government, and don't support this war and any others.
P.S. My grandfather is from Ukraine.@Pancir said in Unlock qt in Russia:
Gerçek bu değil, rusya ve beyaz rusya'da doğru/özgür seçim yok, otoriter veya zaten totaliter bir hükümetimiz var, onlar hakkında google'da araştırmayı deneyebilir ve insanların bunu değiştirmesinin neredeyse imkansız olduğunu görebilirsiniz, denedik (belki de değil) yeterli). Şu anda basit grev nedeniyle günlerce veya yıllarca tutuklanabiliriz (ve böyle bir durum zaten birkaç yıldır) ve hükümetlerin toplumu propaganda ve sopa kullanarak bastırmak için güçlü güçleri var.
Şikayet etmiyorum ve sizden bizi bağışlamanızı da istemiyorum, zorbalığı ve bize karşı tüm yaptırımları hak ettik, sadece özgür seçimimizin olmadığını ve çevremdeki birçok insanın hükümetimizi seçmediğini açıklığa kavuşturmak istiyorum. Bu savaşı ve diğerlerini desteklemeyin.
Not: Büyükbabam Ukraynalı.I do not agree with your view. If you were sufficiently united as a people for the same cause, you could put an end to your government and do it. Otherwise, your society is not sufficiently aware of this situation.
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While I appreciate that this discussion so far has been civil I do want to remind everyone that the topic is about accessing Qt here. If you want to discuss the specifics around the situation in Ukraine and so on, then this is not the place for doing that.
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By blocking access to your products to regular citizens, you are helping the Putin's regime to increase a besieged fortress syndrome. Actually, you are doing exactly what ISPs in Russia do. That's why we are prepared for this for the last decade. This is a pointless shitshow. Now, in addition to having a crazy dictator, we have IP blocks outside of Russia. Thank you very much! Glory to Ukraine.
