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  • JonBJ Offline
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    wrote on last edited by JonB
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    @AndyS
    Another behaviour for you to investigate!

    From time to time I have always had an issue where this forum font changes to Times Roman or similar serif font. Usually refreshing resolves back to serif. Now this PC's Chrome, at least, has locked into serif. Clearing cache etc. makes no difference now. Though a FF does display in sans serif.... I want sans serif back, always!

    I had always assumed the page/browser was unable intermittently to retrieve a CSS URL specifying the desired font. Now I'm not sure.

    I like to give you things to look at, to ensure you are kept busy... ;-)

    EDIT
    Oohh, after about half an hour Chrome finally has sans serif back for this forum. Though looking at it I think it's not the same s-s as it used to be, though I guess I could be mistaken. Why can't you find my fonts correctly? :)

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    • JonBJ JonB

      @AndyS
      Another behaviour for you to investigate!

      From time to time I have always had an issue where this forum font changes to Times Roman or similar serif font. Usually refreshing resolves back to serif. Now this PC's Chrome, at least, has locked into serif. Clearing cache etc. makes no difference now. Though a FF does display in sans serif.... I want sans serif back, always!

      I had always assumed the page/browser was unable intermittently to retrieve a CSS URL specifying the desired font. Now I'm not sure.

      I like to give you things to look at, to ensure you are kept busy... ;-)

      EDIT
      Oohh, after about half an hour Chrome finally has sans serif back for this forum. Though looking at it I think it's not the same s-s as it used to be, though I guess I could be mistaken. Why can't you find my fonts correctly? :)

      JKSHJ Offline
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      JKSH
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      @JonB said in Forum font gone walkies:

      Oohh, after about half an hour Chrome finally has sans serif back for this forum. Though looking at it I think it's not the same s-s as it used to be, though I guess I could be mistaken. Why can't you find my fonts correctly? :)

      I see that the forum's intended font for Windows visitors is Titillium Web. Use your browser's developer console (highlight some text and hit F12 on Firefox or Chrome) to see the stylesheet.

      In general, if your connection with the font server is slow, you might see a placeholder font when you load a page before the "final" font materializes. I've never seen a page stuck in the placeholder though, unless the connection breaks halfway through.

      I've also never seen the this forum produce a serif font, and my gut feeling says that this is outside of Andy's control.

      Do you experience this on other machines as well?

      Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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      • JKSHJ JKSH

        @JonB said in Forum font gone walkies:

        Oohh, after about half an hour Chrome finally has sans serif back for this forum. Though looking at it I think it's not the same s-s as it used to be, though I guess I could be mistaken. Why can't you find my fonts correctly? :)

        I see that the forum's intended font for Windows visitors is Titillium Web. Use your browser's developer console (highlight some text and hit F12 on Firefox or Chrome) to see the stylesheet.

        In general, if your connection with the font server is slow, you might see a placeholder font when you load a page before the "final" font materializes. I've never seen a page stuck in the placeholder though, unless the connection breaks halfway through.

        I've also never seen the this forum produce a serif font, and my gut feeling says that this is outside of Andy's control.

        Do you experience this on other machines as well?

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        @JKSH
        I believe I am correct in saying that the absolute default HTML/browser font, in the absence of anything explicit, is Times Roman/serif.

        Your suggestion about "if connection is slow" is interesting. Unlike the rest of you on the Information Superhighway, in this backwater of the UK I am limited to max 4MB, and sometimes it gets worse! If there is anything which loads fonts/stylesheets asynchronously, and it could timeout without being fetched, I suspect that is likely to be my situation :(

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          ODБOï
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          #4

          @JonB I have same issue with 100MB

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          • JonBJ JonB

            @JKSH
            I believe I am correct in saying that the absolute default HTML/browser font, in the absence of anything explicit, is Times Roman/serif.

            Your suggestion about "if connection is slow" is interesting. Unlike the rest of you on the Information Superhighway, in this backwater of the UK I am limited to max 4MB, and sometimes it gets worse! If there is anything which loads fonts/stylesheets asynchronously, and it could timeout without being fetched, I suspect that is likely to be my situation :(

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            JKSH
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            @JonB said in Forum font gone walkies:

            I believe I am correct in saying that the absolute default HTML/browser font, in the absence of anything explicit, is Times Roman/serif.

            Yep.

            Unlike the rest of you on the Information Superhighway, in this backwater of the UK I am limited to max 4MB, and sometimes it gets worse!

            A few months ago, my home got "upgraded" from 500 KiB/s to just over 1 MiB/s.

            I'm willing to consider doing... questionable things... to get 4 MiB/s ;-P

            If there is anything which loads fonts/stylesheets asynchronously, and it could timeout without being fetched, I suspect that is likely to be my situation :(

            Sounds like it.

            It's not your absolute Internet speed that matters, but the speed/latency between your PC and the font server. (My speed is slow, but my fonts on this forum are fine)

            That's why I asked in my previous post: Do you experience this on other machines as well? If it's just one PC, then it might be a config issue on that PC. If all machines in your home see the same isssue, then it's more likely to be your infrastructure.

            Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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            • aha_1980A Offline
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              aha_1980
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              I see it too sometimes. Line speed ~2 MBit/s

              Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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              • JKSHJ JKSH

                @JonB said in Forum font gone walkies:

                I believe I am correct in saying that the absolute default HTML/browser font, in the absence of anything explicit, is Times Roman/serif.

                Yep.

                Unlike the rest of you on the Information Superhighway, in this backwater of the UK I am limited to max 4MB, and sometimes it gets worse!

                A few months ago, my home got "upgraded" from 500 KiB/s to just over 1 MiB/s.

                I'm willing to consider doing... questionable things... to get 4 MiB/s ;-P

                If there is anything which loads fonts/stylesheets asynchronously, and it could timeout without being fetched, I suspect that is likely to be my situation :(

                Sounds like it.

                It's not your absolute Internet speed that matters, but the speed/latency between your PC and the font server. (My speed is slow, but my fonts on this forum are fine)

                That's why I asked in my previous post: Do you experience this on other machines as well? If it's just one PC, then it might be a config issue on that PC. If all machines in your home see the same isssue, then it's more likely to be your infrastructure.

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                @JKSH

                Do you experience this on other machines as well?

                Simple answer is: I don't know.

                A few months ago, my home got "upgraded" from 500 KiB/s to just over 1 MiB/s.

                I'm willing to consider doing... questionable things... to get 4 MiB/s ;-P

                I believe you are Germany. I am amazed! I thought rest of the world, and certainly Germany, were all like London with bits pouring down the wire!

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                • JonBJ JonB

                  @JKSH

                  Do you experience this on other machines as well?

                  Simple answer is: I don't know.

                  A few months ago, my home got "upgraded" from 500 KiB/s to just over 1 MiB/s.

                  I'm willing to consider doing... questionable things... to get 4 MiB/s ;-P

                  I believe you are Germany. I am amazed! I thought rest of the world, and certainly Germany, were all like London with bits pouring down the wire!

                  kshegunovK Offline
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                  kshegunov
                  Moderators
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @JonB said in Forum font gone walkies:

                  I believe you are Germany.

                  Think more spring-summer currently and more sandy ... :D

                  I am amazed! I thought rest of the world, and certainly Germany, were all like London with bits pouring down the wire!

                  Most certainly not the case for Germany and even more certainly not the case for France. I think you've been misinformed.

                  Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                  • JKSHJ JKSH

                    @JonB said in Forum font gone walkies:

                    I believe I am correct in saying that the absolute default HTML/browser font, in the absence of anything explicit, is Times Roman/serif.

                    Yep.

                    Unlike the rest of you on the Information Superhighway, in this backwater of the UK I am limited to max 4MB, and sometimes it gets worse!

                    A few months ago, my home got "upgraded" from 500 KiB/s to just over 1 MiB/s.

                    I'm willing to consider doing... questionable things... to get 4 MiB/s ;-P

                    If there is anything which loads fonts/stylesheets asynchronously, and it could timeout without being fetched, I suspect that is likely to be my situation :(

                    Sounds like it.

                    It's not your absolute Internet speed that matters, but the speed/latency between your PC and the font server. (My speed is slow, but my fonts on this forum are fine)

                    That's why I asked in my previous post: Do you experience this on other machines as well? If it's just one PC, then it might be a config issue on that PC. If all machines in your home see the same isssue, then it's more likely to be your infrastructure.

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                    JonB
                    wrote on last edited by JonB
                    #9

                    @JKSH
                    FWIW, on my work machine, with super-duper Internet speed, after all was well all morning, it just changed over to serif font. In this case, a refresh immediately returned to serif (unlike from home where that took half an hour).

                    The point is, there seems to be something sensitive in this forum to failing to load whatever causes the font change to sans serif....

                    P.S.
                    And this just happened again, and cleared again on refresh.

                    P.P.S.
                    Slight clue to help track down: if I simply click to revisit the page (e.g. https://forum.qt.io/unread) the font remains serif. I have to do a reload/refresh for it to move correctly to sans serif. So something to do with caching....

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