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  • mzimmersM Offline
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    mzimmers
    wrote on last edited by
    #31

    Thanks, Volker. I realize that files should be in the application bundle, and I wasn't suggesting to do it a different way. In the back of my mind, though, I'm wondering what that bundle looks like when copied to a PC. I'm hoping it's a directory.

    Do I correctly assume the path/to refers to the path to the source code? Or is that the target?

    EDIT:

    I tried it two ways:
    @APP_QML_FILES.files = ./DemodShaperFilter.qml
    APP_QML_FILES.path = Contents/Resources
    QMAKE_BUNDLE_DATA += APP_QML_FILES
    @

    and:
    @APP_QML_FILES.files = DemodShaperFilter.qml
    APP_QML_FILES.path = Contents/Resources
    QMAKE_BUNDLE_DATA += APP_QML_FILES
    @

    Neither put the file into the Resources folder. It appears that the path is required, which surprises me, because I figured that the .pro file would use its own directory as the default.

    So now, the question is: is there some slick way to derive the current path from an environment variable or something, and plug it into the .pro file automatically?

    I'm not pursuing this level of automation out of laziness; it's more a matter of having one less thing to remember when stuff gets changed.

    Thanks.

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      goetz
      wrote on last edited by
      #32

      [quote author="mzimmers" date="1301602502"]Thanks, Volker. I realize that files should be in the application bundle, and I wasn't suggesting to do it a different way. In the back of my mind, though, I'm wondering what that bundle looks like when copied to a PC. I'm hoping it's a directory.

      Do I correctly assume the path/to refers to the path to the source code? Or is that the target?[/quote]

      Thats the path of the source. The target path (relative to the bundle) is in the second line.

      If you just care about copying the Mac bundle to a windows box, then you're right, it is nothing more than an ordinary directory. On the Mac command line you just "cd" into it, like into every other directory. It's just the Finder that displays the bundle differently and if you call "open myprogram.app" on the command line, it does not open Finder (like for directories) but launches the application.

      Regarding deployment on Windows, that's a different beast. You'll probably consider using an installer to put everything in place. You find some hints on windows installers in "this thread":http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/4498

      http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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      • mzimmersM Offline
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        mzimmers
        wrote on last edited by
        #33

        Volker: you posted about the same time I edited my last post, so I'm not sure if you saw my new comments/questions?

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          goetz
          wrote on last edited by
          #34

          The path is relative to the location of your .pro file.

          http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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            wrote on last edited by
            #35

            Hmm...well, then it should have worked, no?

            What totally obvious thing am I overlooking? I could post the entire .pro file if that would help.

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              goetz
              wrote on last edited by
              #36

              Yep, it should have worked. Is the QML file in a subdirectory?

              You can try with a test file like this:

              @
              APP_QML_FILES.files = Makefile
              APP_QML_FILES.path = Contents/Resources
              QMAKE_BUNDLE_DATA += APP_QML_FILES
              @

              Not that a Makefile in the Resources is very useful, but it serves well for demonstration purposes :-)

              For another test, you could add the absolute path to the QML to APP_QML_FILES.files.

              And as a third guess, do you use shadow builds?

              http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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              • mzimmersM Offline
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                mzimmers
                wrote on last edited by
                #37

                QML file is in same directory as .pro file.

                Regarding adding the absolute path: I'll re-ask my question of whether there's a way to do it symbolically. Otherwise, it doesn't really solve the problem.

                Shadow builds: I have a parallel directory to my source, called NNN-build-desktop. That's where all my built files go to live. Is that a shadow build, and if so, is it a bad thing, and if so, how do I do something else?

                Thanks.

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                  goetz
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #38

                  I don't know about a function that returns the path of the .pro file. As far as I remember this question raised in the forums some time ago.

                  Shadow builds are not a problem. I just checked with my test project. (EDIT: yep, the parallel directory is a shadow build)

                  It must be something different, probably a typo or so. You can post the .pro file here and the contents of your directory, so we can check again. If you don't want to expose your data publicly, contact me via private message to negotiate a "secure" channel.

                  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                  • mzimmersM Offline
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                    mzimmers
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #39

                    No, I think it's safe to share filenames, for now at least.

                    Here's the .pro file:

                    @######################################################################

                    Automatically generated by qmake (2.01a) Mon Mar 28 17:09:16 2011

                    ######################################################################

                    TEMPLATE = app
                    TARGET =
                    DEPENDPATH += . headers src
                    INCLUDEPATH += . headers

                    APP_QML_FILES.files = DemodShaperFilter.qml
                    APP_QML_FILES.path = Contents/Resources
                    QMAKE_BUNDLE_DATA += APP_QML_FILES

                    QT += declarative

                    Input

                    HEADERS +=
                    headers/clock.h
                    headers/DemodShaperFilter.h
                    headers/globals.h
                    headers/register_offsets.h
                    headers/Soc.h
                    headers/SocReg.h
                    headers/widget.h
                    headers/GenericCell.h
                    SOURCES +=
                    src/clock.cpp
                    src/DemodShaperFilter.cpp
                    src/filestuff.cpp
                    src/globals.cpp
                    src/main.cpp
                    src/Soc.cpp
                    src/SocReg.cpp
                    src/widget.cpp
                    src/GenericCell.cpp

                    FORMS +=
                    widget.ui

                    OTHER_FILES +=
                    DemodShaperFilter.qml
                    @

                    And here's a snapshot of my directory:

                    !http://www.scopedin.com/images/screen.jpg(directory)!

                    Thanks...

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #40

                      I found the problem: Contents/Resources isn't where the executable is; it's in Contents/MacOS. Works fine now.

                      That was a nice diversion; now I'll get back to trying to do what Zap mentioned several posts ago. I'll be back with questions about that soon.

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                        mzimmers
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #41

                        So, Zap: from reading the section on Q_PROPERTY, it appears that within my top-level class, I replace the variable creation with a Q_PROPERTY. So, instead of:

                        @int combGainI;@

                        I'll now have something like:

                        @ Q_PROPERTY (int combGainI READ readFn WRITE writeFn);
                        @

                        Correct so far?

                        So, since I have to supply a read and write function, am I correct in assuming that this can no longer be an int? I have to make a class for the combGain, and provide gets and sets for it?

                        Thanks.

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                          ZapB
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #42

                          You need the Q_PROPERTY declaration as well as not instead of your normal member variable declaration. This aspect yoru class might look something like this:

                          @
                          class MyClass : public QObject
                          {
                          Q_OBJECT
                          Q_PROPERTY( int combGainl READ combGainl WRITE setCombGainl NOTIFY combGainlChanged )

                          public:
                          ...
                          void setCombGainl( int combGainl )
                          {
                          // Only emit signal if new value is different
                          if ( m_combGainl == combGainl )
                          return;
                          m_combGainl = combGainl;
                          emit combGainlChanged( m_combGainl );
                          }

                          int combGainl() const { return m_combGainl; }
                          

                          signals:
                          void combGainlChanged( int );

                          private:
                          int m_combGainl;
                          };
                          @

                          The important aspects here are:

                          You still need to decalre the member as usual

                          You need to provide a getter method

                          If you declare the property as writeable (from outside the class) as I have illustrated here, then you must provide a setter function too. It is important (to minimise updates and to break circular dependencies between bound properties) that the setter function only emits the property changed notification signal when it does actually change.

                          If the variable exposed as a property is purely calculated internally then you do not need to expose it as a writeable property. However, you do need to emit the combGainlChanged( int ) signal when you calculate a new value for it. This is used by the QML framework to update QML items that have properties bound to this property.

                          I hope all of that makes sense. It will become clear when you get your first C++/QML example working.

                          As for the property types, you can use any type known to Qt's metatype system (look up Q_DECLARE_METATYPE and qRegisterMetaType in the docs). So all the built in types (int, double, etc. plus all the types handled by QVariant work fine out of the box).

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                            goetz
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #43

                            [quote author="mzimmers" date="1301619372"]I found the problem: Contents/Resources isn't where the executable is; it's in Contents/MacOS. Works fine now.

                            That was a nice diversion; now I'll get back to trying to do what Zap mentioned several posts ago. I'll be back with questions about that soon.[/quote]

                            But it got copied into Contents/Resources?

                            A good way would be to put it there and adapt the search paths in your application (wrapped in some #ifdef):

                            @
                            #if defined( Q_OS_MACX )
                            declarativeEngine.addImportPath(qApp->applicationDirPath() + "/../Resources");
                            #endif
                            @

                            (I've not tested it, you might use another path setter/adder for this)

                            http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                              mzimmers
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #44

                              Zap: that's a very good explanation. I'm still unclear on the combGainIChanged function, though. Do I actually implement this, or is it part of the BFM of Qt? I ask because I don't see an analog for it in the code we did in the other thread.

                              It seems that I'm not yet tying data to a display item, too...is that the next step?

                              EDIT:

                              Another question: can the combGainI stuff be adapted to be general-purpose, or do I need to replicate this for each variable I wish to display with QML?

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                                mzimmers
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #45

                                Hey, Volker:

                                Just to be sure I was clear: when qmake runs, it puts the executable into Contents/MacOS, not into Contents/Resources. So, I just modified my .pro file accordingly:

                                @APP_QML_FILES.files = DemodShaperFilter.qml
                                APP_QML_FILES.path = Contents/MacOS
                                QMAKE_BUNDLE_DATA += APP_QML_FILES
                                @

                                Unless I'm missing something, I don't see a downside to putting the .qml file (and other needed files) into the same directory as the executable...

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                                  goetz
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #46

                                  In theory, Contents/MacOS conatains the executable(s), and Contents/Resources would be the place to put QML files. It's not really harmful, to put resources like QMLs into Contents/MacOS too. The only drawback is that it is not best practise on OS X and that Apple recommends Contents/Resources.

                                  What makes me wonder, is how qmake puts that files into the wrong dir. Assuming there are two files QuickTest.qml and TestPage.qml within the same directory as the .pro file, the following snippet puts it into Contents/Resources:

                                  @
                                  APP_QML_FILES.files = QuickTest.qml TestPage.qml
                                  APP_QML_FILES.path = Contents/Resources
                                  QMAKE_BUNDLE_DATA += APP_QML_FILES
                                  @

                                  You might want to remove the application bundle directory before building, as qmake just adds files, but does not remove them!

                                  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                                    ZapB
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #47

                                    [quote author="mzimmers" date="1301678701"]Zap: that's a very good explanation. I'm still unclear on the combGainIChanged function, though. Do I actually implement this, or is it part of the BFM of Qt? I ask because I don't see an analog for it in the code we did in the other thread.
                                    [/quote]

                                    No you do not need to implement it. The implementation of signals is generated automatically for you by the moc step of the build process. When you run qmake, it scans the files listed in the HEADERS section for class containing Q_OBJECT. It adds rules to the generated Makefile to run these headers through the Qt moc tool. The moc generates the moc_*.cpp files that you will find in your build tree. The signal/slot and other metaobject magic is implemented in these files.

                                    [quote author="mzimmers" date="1301678701"]
                                    It seems that I'm not yet tying data to a display item, too...is that the next step?
                                    [/quote]

                                    Yes we will tackle that next. A swim and some food first for me though ;-)

                                    EDIT:

                                    [quote author="mzimmers" date="1301678701"]
                                    Another question: can the combGainI stuff be adapted to be general-purpose, or do I need to replicate this for each variable I wish to display with QML?[/quote]

                                    That depends on what you want to do. You need to expose all properties that you wish to access from QML in this way. If you have a lot of data then there are alternative approaches using a subclass of QAbstractListModel for example.

                                    Which approach to use depends upon how you structure your code. From what you have said earlier it sounded like you will have an object hierarchy, so it may be simplest to expose a member or two from each object as properties in this way. If you have a class with 20 such data items then it may pay you to look into the model approach for that case.

                                    It will become clearer as we progress...

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                                      mzimmers
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #48

                                      OK...I've implemented the stuff in the post above. Is there any way to verify it at this point, or do we just go to the next step?

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                                        ZapB
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #49

                                        You can verify what you have done so far by converting your original GUI to use the new property changed signals instead of the original dataChanged( int, int ) signal. So if you now have two properties, one for each of the two variables, then you will need to make two connections - one for each property notifier signal.

                                        Another way of verifying that it works would be to make use of the QTestLib framework and write a unit test for your class. In such tests you can make use of QSignalSpy to ensure that the signals were emitted as expected. Unit tests are nice as they can be run at any time in the future if you need to convince yourself that a certain part of your codebase is still working as it should.

                                        Once you have verified that you calculation works as it should you can start putting together your QML scene that will display the state of your calculation object's properties. See if you can have a go at that from what you find in the QML examples. At this stage we don't need anything extravagant, just a couple of rectangles and text elements should suffice. Let us know if you need a hand with this.

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                                          mzimmers
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #50

                                          Just got back to this stuff. So, if I understand your first paragraph above, I want to change this line in widget.cpp:

                                          @ connect (soc, SIGNAL(dataChanged(int, int)), this, SLOT(setValue(int, int)));@

                                          to:

                                          @ connect (soc, SIGNAL(combGainIChanged(int)), this, SLOT(setCombGainI(int)));@

                                          Is this right? If so, what should I expect to see happen?

                                          EDIT:

                                          Actually, instead of changing that line, can I just add the second line (if correct)? For now, I might as well keep the original GUI working, too.
                                          Thanks.

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