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    jimbrownqtuser
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    The project that I'm having a problem with is the default project that Qt Creator builds. I'm on Ubuntu 24.04 I run Qt Creator and create the default Application (Qt) / Qt Widgets Application project as I outlined in my original post. It's all the code and project files that Qt Creator constructed. Nothing of mine.

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      qtcreator.png

      To be clear, Qt Creator on Ubuntu 24.04 creates a correct project which if moved to Ubuntu 22.04 runs and can be debugged with Qt Creator on that system. It is not recognized on the 24.04 system as a valid project with contents even though it was constructed there.

      I expected entries for Headers, Source, and forms in the Creator project pane which you can see from the picture are not there.

      I also expected a build-ttt-Desktop-Debug directory on my 24.04 machine but this directory was not created but since I can't run a build it's not surprising.

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        I'm using Qt5. Is it possible Qt Creator needs Qt6?

        qtchooser -list-versions
        4
        5
        default
        qt4-x86_64-linux-gnu
        qt4
        qt5-x86_64-linux-gnu
        qt5
        
        
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          jimbrownqtuser
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          #10

          I reinstalled Ubuntu 24.04 from scratch and entered these two lines

          apt-get -y install qtbase5-dev qt5-qmake 
          apt-get -y install qtcreator
          

          The project is created correctly but Qt Creator fails the same way.

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            I'm using Qt5. Is it possible Qt Creator needs Qt6?

            qtchooser -list-versions
            4
            5
            default
            qt4-x86_64-linux-gnu
            qt4
            qt5-x86_64-linux-gnu
            qt5
            
            
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            JonB
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            @jimbrownqtuser
            I am still not certain where you are at.

            Creator is built with some version of Qt, be that, say, Qt5 or Qt6. It comes with all the libraries it needs from that version inside the Creator executable area --- have a look where that is and you should find all its shared libraries there or nearby. So it is self-contained, and does not care/is independent from what version of Qt you have installed for building your projects with. They are customarily the same, but do not have to be, so a Qt6 Creator could build a Qt5 application or vice versa.

            If I understand right, you create a project on one machine under one version of Ubuntu, you can build and run it. If you take the executable to a different machine with different version of Ubuntu it also runs. But if you take the .pro and sources they do not read in as a project in Creator on the other machine.

            Then again, I don't quite get

            To be clear, Qt Creator on Ubuntu 24.04 creates a correct project which if moved to Ubuntu 22.04 runs and can be debugged with Qt Creator on that system. It is not recognized on the 24.04 system as a valid project with contents even though it was constructed there.

            How did you create a correct project under 24.04 in the first place if it's not recognised as a valid project? I don't get that, it would have to be a valid project while you are interacting with Creator to create it?

            FWIW, I also asked you earlier what versions of Creator you installed/created on the two systems but you did not reply. You can see from within Creator from the Help menu. I would not expect the versions of Creator fetched via apt under the differing versions of Ubuntu to be the same.

            Can't we eliminate any discussion of 24.04 and moving files between machines? Can you create a project from scratch (not by copying files) under 24.04 and it goes wrong? How do you succeed in adding files to this project in Creator to create it if at the same time you tell us that it doesn't create a project/show the files?

            Are you wedded to Qt5? I can say that installing and using Qt6 under 24.04 works. I have not tried to install and run Qt5 under 24.04. Not to say it should not work, but it would be interesting to know whether that works instead.

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            • J jimbrownqtuser

              I reinstalled Ubuntu 24.04 from scratch and entered these two lines

              apt-get -y install qtbase5-dev qt5-qmake 
              apt-get -y install qtcreator
              

              The project is created correctly but Qt Creator fails the same way.

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              #12

              @jimbrownqtuser
              P.S.
              One thought. It would not apply if things go wrong solely on one machine, but might if you are trying to move projects between Qts. Don't forget that Creator offers two different build systems. At Qt5 the default was qmake (uses .pro file) but at Qt6 the default was moved to cmake (uses CMakeLists file). If using cmake you won't be able to read a .pro file as a project.....

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                jimbrownqtuser
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                #13

                I appreciate your willingness to help. I described some experiments that I did to try to understand what's going on and I see that confused the issue.

                I'll try to answer all the questions but first I have a simple reproducible case that is only on Ubuntu 24.04 and doesn't involve any file not provided by the system.

                1. The simple case

                I did a minimal install of Ubuntu 24.04.

                Make sure it's up to date

                apt update
                apt upgrade
                

                Install Qt stuff

                apt-get -y install qtbase5-dev qt5-qmake
                apt-get -y install qtchooser
                apt-get -y install qtcreator
                

                Check that Qt is installed

                .../jimbrown:qtchooser -list-versions
                4
                5
                default
                qt4-x86_64-linux-gnu
                qt4
                qt5-x86_64-linux-gnu
                qt5
                

                See where headers are located

                .../jimbrown:qmake -query QT_INSTALL_HEADERS
                /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5
                

                Make sure qmake is available

                .../jimbrown:find /usr/lib -name qmake
                /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmake
                /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake
                

                I notice no qmake for qt4 but I don't think it matters.

                reboot the system

                Run QT Creator

                Create project by pressing "Create Project" green button.

                Application (Qt) / Qt Widgets Application / Choose
                Name: ttt in /home/jimbrown
                Next - Build system: qmake
                Next / Next / Next/ Next

                It shows that files will be added

                FilesAdded.png

                Press "Finish"

                This shows that although it says there is a project named ttt and a file ttt.pro, there are no Headers, Source or Forms. It also says "This file is not part of any project. ..."

                qtcreator2.png

                That's the failure.

                The files it says it would create are created:

                ~/ttt:ls
                main.cpp  mainwindow.cpp  mainwindow.h  mainwindow.ui  ttt.pro  ttt.pro.user
                

                That's the end of the case.

                1. Questions that you asked or additional comments.

                If I move the ttt directory and it's content to an earlier version of Ubuntu, Qt Creator recognizes the project correctly and can build and run it.

                Thanks for explaining that a Qt6 Creator could build a Qt5 application or vice versa. I wanted to eliminate that as a possible source of the problem.

                You asked "How did you create a correct project under 24.04 in the first place if it's not recognized as a valid project?"

                As I explained above, the project is created correctly. But Creator does not appear to recognize it. So on 24.04, I cannot build an executable program. On earlier versions of Ubuntu, those same files work.

                Qt Creator is version 13.0.0

                I do want to use Qt5 because I'm hoping to get a paying job early next year with a company that uses Qt5. They are currently on Ubuntu 20.04 but I expect them to move to a newer version and I want to be ready.

                Thanks again for your help.

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                • J jimbrownqtuser

                  I appreciate your willingness to help. I described some experiments that I did to try to understand what's going on and I see that confused the issue.

                  I'll try to answer all the questions but first I have a simple reproducible case that is only on Ubuntu 24.04 and doesn't involve any file not provided by the system.

                  1. The simple case

                  I did a minimal install of Ubuntu 24.04.

                  Make sure it's up to date

                  apt update
                  apt upgrade
                  

                  Install Qt stuff

                  apt-get -y install qtbase5-dev qt5-qmake
                  apt-get -y install qtchooser
                  apt-get -y install qtcreator
                  

                  Check that Qt is installed

                  .../jimbrown:qtchooser -list-versions
                  4
                  5
                  default
                  qt4-x86_64-linux-gnu
                  qt4
                  qt5-x86_64-linux-gnu
                  qt5
                  

                  See where headers are located

                  .../jimbrown:qmake -query QT_INSTALL_HEADERS
                  /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5
                  

                  Make sure qmake is available

                  .../jimbrown:find /usr/lib -name qmake
                  /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmake
                  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake
                  

                  I notice no qmake for qt4 but I don't think it matters.

                  reboot the system

                  Run QT Creator

                  Create project by pressing "Create Project" green button.

                  Application (Qt) / Qt Widgets Application / Choose
                  Name: ttt in /home/jimbrown
                  Next - Build system: qmake
                  Next / Next / Next/ Next

                  It shows that files will be added

                  FilesAdded.png

                  Press "Finish"

                  This shows that although it says there is a project named ttt and a file ttt.pro, there are no Headers, Source or Forms. It also says "This file is not part of any project. ..."

                  qtcreator2.png

                  That's the failure.

                  The files it says it would create are created:

                  ~/ttt:ls
                  main.cpp  mainwindow.cpp  mainwindow.h  mainwindow.ui  ttt.pro  ttt.pro.user
                  

                  That's the end of the case.

                  1. Questions that you asked or additional comments.

                  If I move the ttt directory and it's content to an earlier version of Ubuntu, Qt Creator recognizes the project correctly and can build and run it.

                  Thanks for explaining that a Qt6 Creator could build a Qt5 application or vice versa. I wanted to eliminate that as a possible source of the problem.

                  You asked "How did you create a correct project under 24.04 in the first place if it's not recognized as a valid project?"

                  As I explained above, the project is created correctly. But Creator does not appear to recognize it. So on 24.04, I cannot build an executable program. On earlier versions of Ubuntu, those same files work.

                  Qt Creator is version 13.0.0

                  I do want to use Qt5 because I'm hoping to get a paying job early next year with a company that uses Qt5. They are currently on Ubuntu 20.04 but I expect them to move to a newer version and I want to be ready.

                  Thanks again for your help.

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                  Pl45m4
                  wrote on last edited by Pl45m4
                  #14

                  @jimbrownqtuser said in Default project fails:

                  The files it says it would create are created:

                  Hi, show the content of your ttt.pro file please.
                  Ah nvm, it is posted above already :D
                  It doesn't look wrong...

                  Are you able to create CMake projects with QtCreator? Do they show a proper structure in QtCreator?


                  If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

                  ~E. W. Dijkstra

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                    jimbrownqtuser
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    I tried making the default app with cmake. Same result "This file is not part of any project. ..."

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                    • J jimbrownqtuser

                      I appreciate your willingness to help. I described some experiments that I did to try to understand what's going on and I see that confused the issue.

                      I'll try to answer all the questions but first I have a simple reproducible case that is only on Ubuntu 24.04 and doesn't involve any file not provided by the system.

                      1. The simple case

                      I did a minimal install of Ubuntu 24.04.

                      Make sure it's up to date

                      apt update
                      apt upgrade
                      

                      Install Qt stuff

                      apt-get -y install qtbase5-dev qt5-qmake
                      apt-get -y install qtchooser
                      apt-get -y install qtcreator
                      

                      Check that Qt is installed

                      .../jimbrown:qtchooser -list-versions
                      4
                      5
                      default
                      qt4-x86_64-linux-gnu
                      qt4
                      qt5-x86_64-linux-gnu
                      qt5
                      

                      See where headers are located

                      .../jimbrown:qmake -query QT_INSTALL_HEADERS
                      /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5
                      

                      Make sure qmake is available

                      .../jimbrown:find /usr/lib -name qmake
                      /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmake
                      /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake
                      

                      I notice no qmake for qt4 but I don't think it matters.

                      reboot the system

                      Run QT Creator

                      Create project by pressing "Create Project" green button.

                      Application (Qt) / Qt Widgets Application / Choose
                      Name: ttt in /home/jimbrown
                      Next - Build system: qmake
                      Next / Next / Next/ Next

                      It shows that files will be added

                      FilesAdded.png

                      Press "Finish"

                      This shows that although it says there is a project named ttt and a file ttt.pro, there are no Headers, Source or Forms. It also says "This file is not part of any project. ..."

                      qtcreator2.png

                      That's the failure.

                      The files it says it would create are created:

                      ~/ttt:ls
                      main.cpp  mainwindow.cpp  mainwindow.h  mainwindow.ui  ttt.pro  ttt.pro.user
                      

                      That's the end of the case.

                      1. Questions that you asked or additional comments.

                      If I move the ttt directory and it's content to an earlier version of Ubuntu, Qt Creator recognizes the project correctly and can build and run it.

                      Thanks for explaining that a Qt6 Creator could build a Qt5 application or vice versa. I wanted to eliminate that as a possible source of the problem.

                      You asked "How did you create a correct project under 24.04 in the first place if it's not recognized as a valid project?"

                      As I explained above, the project is created correctly. But Creator does not appear to recognize it. So on 24.04, I cannot build an executable program. On earlier versions of Ubuntu, those same files work.

                      Qt Creator is version 13.0.0

                      I do want to use Qt5 because I'm hoping to get a paying job early next year with a company that uses Qt5. They are currently on Ubuntu 20.04 but I expect them to move to a newer version and I want to be ready.

                      Thanks again for your help.

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                      JonB
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                      #16

                      @jimbrownqtuser said in Default project fails:

                      You asked "How did you create a correct project under 24.04 in the first place if it's not recognized as a valid project?"

                      As I explained above, the project is created correctly. But Creator does not appear to recognize it. So on 24.04, I cannot build an executable program. On earlier versions of Ubuntu, those same files work.

                      You are now very clear about what you see. Creator lets you create a project, creates the .pro and source files, yet does not recognise it as a project. I have not seen this before so I don't know. Check it has found proper Kits?

                      Like I said, I have Qt6 installed same way under 24.04 and that's fine. I don't know if the problem is because you are using Qt5 or whether that is not relevant.

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                        #17

                        Checking kits is a good idea. I'm not sure what to check for. HERE'S WHAT i see:
                        kits.png

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                          jimbrownqtuser
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                          I can't reproduce it but looking at the kits I got a pop-up like you would get with mouse button 2 and it said under compiler - clang. Certainly not what I want. I don't understand kits and don't know what to do. But it's a lead. Thanks

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                            I can't reproduce it but looking at the kits I got a pop-up like you would get with mouse button 2 and it said under compiler - clang. Certainly not what I want. I don't understand kits and don't know what to do. But it's a lead. Thanks

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                            @jimbrownqtuser said in Default project fails:

                            I don't understand kits

                            A kit is the set of tools you use to develop/build your app within QtCreator. It contains compiler, debugger and run/build settings.

                            It's weird to see this empty... So QtCreator does not seem to recognize your Qt installation


                            If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

                            ~E. W. Dijkstra

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                              Solved!

                              The solution was to change the desktop kit so the C++ compiler was GCC instead of CLANG. The C compiler was already set to GCC.

                              The default app now shows all the files, is recognized as a project and runs.

                              The suggestion "Check it has found proper Kits?" was the clue that led me to this solution. If I had more experience with Qt maybe I would have thought of that. I certainly didn't suspect that if you had a different compiler selected in the kit that the project display would not show Headers, Sources and Forms.

                              I read the documentation on kits and learned how to create and modify kits.

                              Thanks to those who helped. I would not have solved this without you.

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                                Solved!

                                The solution was to change the desktop kit so the C++ compiler was GCC instead of CLANG. The C compiler was already set to GCC.

                                The default app now shows all the files, is recognized as a project and runs.

                                The suggestion "Check it has found proper Kits?" was the clue that led me to this solution. If I had more experience with Qt maybe I would have thought of that. I certainly didn't suspect that if you had a different compiler selected in the kit that the project display would not show Headers, Sources and Forms.

                                I read the documentation on kits and learned how to create and modify kits.

                                Thanks to those who helped. I would not have solved this without you.

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                                JonB
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                                #21

                                @jimbrownqtuser said in Default project fails:

                                The solution was to change the desktop kit so the C++ compiler was GCC instead of CLANG.

                                Indeed! I can only say that my 24.04 installation (with Qt6) did this already, I never had a problem.
                                It's obviously not helpful that it creates a project yet then cannot handle it.

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