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  • gfxxG Offline
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    why not use opencv for load image and only after qimage or qml code .... on opencv you can "free" or "clear" at every cicle ..... any how you are sure after usage you clear qimage? maybe, if a loop, there are something of wrong. After load qimage you can show and in row after clear ..... so no buffer ..... better is you declare the same qimage name at every cicle ..... as void var and not a global one for example.

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    • Axel SpoerlA Axel Spoerl

      Let’s ask the question the other way round: why is it a problem? What’s bad about caching pixmaps and images? And why don’t you just read the related documentation?

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      @Axel-Spoerl
      To provide you with the background of the problem: This is for an infotainment project
      I am developing the animation for a Wheel rotation, based on the wheel angle,

      As and when the wheel angle changes, I need to show the axle movement in terms of animation from the old angle to the new angle,
      To achieve this, for a smoother animation, we have decided to show a sequence of images with a Timer (We have around 50 images from extreme left to extreme right).

      When the angle changes from 10 degrees to 20 degrees, we show the sequence of images every 100ms from 10 to 20 (some 10 images).

      Here Image component is used in QML.

      property int wheelValue:0
      
      Image
              {
                  id:itm_wheel
                  source: "Wheel_0"+wheelValue+".png"
                  cache: false // even tried enabling the cache.
              }
      
      // wheelValue is updated via Timer 
       Timer
          {
              id: wheelTimer
              repeat: true
              running: false
              interval: 100
              onTriggered:
              {
                      // Some logic to monitor the wheel angle and update the wheelValue
                      wheelValue+=1
                      wheelTimer.restart() // until the actual wheel angle is met.
                     
                      // Stop the timer when the actual wheel value is met.
                        wheelTimer.stop()
                 }
          }
      

      We have only 512 MB of memory available,
      Each asset .png used for this animation is some 10kb.

      When we keep the animation for some 30 minutes with random updates in wheel angle, we see the accumulation of memory which is never getting freed.

      Hence we need some way to implement this without accumulating memory.
      Thanks

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      • Axel SpoerlA Offline
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        #9

        Let's maybe take one step back.

        a) Memory leak
        There is no memory leak.

        b) Use case
        Are we really sure, that all pixmaps / images are really used only once?
        Which operating system is used? How about e.g. the XCB backing store? What happens, if a displayed image is covered / uncovered by other screen assets? Do you really wanna re-render in that case?
        Why is caching a problem at all?
        Do we not have enough memory?

        Edit:
        Sorry, our messages have crossed.
        If you want to show a total of 50 different images and have smooth movements, 512MB of RAM is probably too little.
        I'd try it out on a host with sufficient RAM and see what's the minimum required memory.
        Maybe reducing the images in size and number helps.

        Software Engineer
        The Qt Company, Oslo

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        • Axel SpoerlA Axel Spoerl

          Let's maybe take one step back.

          a) Memory leak
          There is no memory leak.

          b) Use case
          Are we really sure, that all pixmaps / images are really used only once?
          Which operating system is used? How about e.g. the XCB backing store? What happens, if a displayed image is covered / uncovered by other screen assets? Do you really wanna re-render in that case?
          Why is caching a problem at all?
          Do we not have enough memory?

          Edit:
          Sorry, our messages have crossed.
          If you want to show a total of 50 different images and have smooth movements, 512MB of RAM is probably too little.
          I'd try it out on a host with sufficient RAM and see what's the minimum required memory.
          Maybe reducing the images in size and number helps.

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          AdarshKale
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          #10

          @Axel-Spoerl said in Memory not released when multiple Image is loaded continuously:

          b) Use case
          Are we really sure, that all pixmaps / images are really used only once?

          we may come across the same image again during the same angle received.

          Which operating system is used?

          QNX

          How about e.g. the XCB backing store? What happens, if a displayed image is covered / uncovered by other screen assets? Do you really wanna re-render in that case?

          We are handing the visibleChanged property from QML to stop the animation if it is not on that screen.
          Directly we render the exact Image for the current position then when this screen is rendered.

          Why is caching a problem at all?
          Do we not have enough memory?

          We don't have enough memory.

          Edit:
          If you want to show a total of 50 different images and have smooth movements, 512MB of RAM is probably too little.
          Maybe reducing the images in size and number helps.

          Reducing the images would not solve the issue, but it postpones it.

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            wrote on last edited by AdarshKale
            #11

            Need a clean way to not accumulate the memory on every reload of the QML Image

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              #12

              One step back again: What's the problem? The cache should resize, if the application runs out of memory. Does your application crash?

              Software Engineer
              The Qt Company, Oslo

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              • Axel SpoerlA Axel Spoerl

                One step back again: What's the problem? The cache should resize, if the application runs out of memory. Does your application crash?

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                wrote on last edited by AdarshKale
                #13

                @Axel-Spoerl said in Memory not released when multiple Image is loaded continuously:
                **The cache should resize

                I don't see the cache getting resized.
                if I run the top command and perform a script to continuously run the angle change,
                I get the memory utilized increased - leading to low memory, once the memory reaches below 15MB or so, the System Hangs, and after few seconds application crashes.

                Even if we come out of that screen during the update, the memory utilisation stops and is never freed.

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                  #14

                  Which Qt version are you using?

                  Software Engineer
                  The Qt Company, Oslo

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                  • Axel SpoerlA Axel Spoerl

                    Which Qt version are you using?

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                    @Axel-Spoerl said in Memory not released when multiple Image is loaded continuously:

                    Which Qt version are you using?

                    5.15

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                      #16

                      That explains a lot. Outdated version. There is a memory leak in the quick pixmap cache, and it won't be fixed.
                      Upgrade to Qt 6.7.

                      Software Engineer
                      The Qt Company, Oslo

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                        wrote on last edited by AdarshKale
                        #17

                        However, we cannot upgrade to newer Qt versions at this stage of the project.
                        Is there any other way possible?

                        There should be some workaround to clear the accumulated memory.?

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                          wrote on last edited by Axel Spoerl
                          #18

                          Qt 5.15 is an outdated Qt version. Given the simplicity of the project, cannot sound more like don't want to.
                          There is no other way possible and a workaround for 5.15 will not be implemented.

                          Software Engineer
                          The Qt Company, Oslo

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                            wrote on last edited by AdarshKale
                            #19

                            There are a few deprecated APIs used and many syntax changes if we upgrade to the latest 6.x version which is risky at this stage.
                            hence we are finding an alternative way.

                            Any possibility of calling garbage collection periodically?
                            Will this accumulated memory get freed with garbage collection?

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                            • A AdarshKale

                              There are a few deprecated APIs used and many syntax changes if we upgrade to the latest 6.x version which is risky at this stage.
                              hence we are finding an alternative way.

                              Any possibility of calling garbage collection periodically?
                              Will this accumulated memory get freed with garbage collection?

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                              #20

                              @AdarshKale said in Memory not released when multiple Image is loaded continuously:

                              Any possibility of calling garbage collection periodically?
                              Will this accumulated memory get freed with garbage collection?

                              No. No.

                              If you read referenced QTBUG you would see how involved the code is, and that it has been integrated into Qt6.x.

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                              • A AdarshKale

                                There are a few deprecated APIs used and many syntax changes if we upgrade to the latest 6.x version which is risky at this stage.
                                hence we are finding an alternative way.

                                Any possibility of calling garbage collection periodically?
                                Will this accumulated memory get freed with garbage collection?

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                                Axel Spoerl
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                                #21

                                @AdarshKale

                                There are a few deprecated APIs used and many syntax changes if we upgrade to the latest 6.x version which is risky at this stage.

                                How complex and risky can an opensource wheel rotation app be, when it has to fit into 500MB of RAM including OS and Qt?

                                hence we are finding an alternative way.

                                No matter how often you ask: Upgrade to Qt6 is the only option.

                                Software Engineer
                                The Qt Company, Oslo

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                                • Axel SpoerlA Axel Spoerl

                                  Qt 5.15 is an outdated Qt version. Given the simplicity of the project, cannot sound more like don't want to.
                                  There is no other way possible and a workaround for 5.15 will not be implemented.

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                                  Qt Champions 2018
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                                  @Axel-Spoerl said in Memory not released when multiple Image is loaded continuously:

                                  Qt 5.15 is an outdated Qt version. Given the simplicity of the project, cannot sound more like don't want to.

                                  You've got to chill. Qt 5.15 is still a supported LTS version. Doing a major version upgrade of a big depency like Qt is not a small meaningless task. It's very understandable that this can't been done in an advanced stage of a project.

                                  @AdarshKale as it seems there is no easy fix for your issue in Qt 5, a workaround would be to not use Image. What do you mean by wheel rotation? Is that changing the angle or rotating between multiple images? The formzr could be done by animating the rotation property.
                                  Alternatively if you do need to have multiple images, you could try implementing a custom QQuickPaintedItem and painting your images there, bypassing the QtQuick cache.

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                                    jeremy_k
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                                    #23

                                    Has precreating all of the required Image instances been tried?

                                    I haven't delved into the pixmap cache bug, but the description suggests that it is loading (and unloading) that causes the leak, rather than repeat references to loaded data. Rather than changing the source of a single Image, just set the current image.visible to false, and the next to true.

                                    Another alternative is to attempt to structure the animation as a transformation of a single Image.

                                    Asking a question about code? http://eel.is/iso-c++/testcase/

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                                    • GrecKoG GrecKo

                                      @Axel-Spoerl said in Memory not released when multiple Image is loaded continuously:

                                      Qt 5.15 is an outdated Qt version. Given the simplicity of the project, cannot sound more like don't want to.

                                      You've got to chill. Qt 5.15 is still a supported LTS version. Doing a major version upgrade of a big depency like Qt is not a small meaningless task. It's very understandable that this can't been done in an advanced stage of a project.

                                      @AdarshKale as it seems there is no easy fix for your issue in Qt 5, a workaround would be to not use Image. What do you mean by wheel rotation? Is that changing the angle or rotating between multiple images? The formzr could be done by animating the rotation property.
                                      Alternatively if you do need to have multiple images, you could try implementing a custom QQuickPaintedItem and painting your images there, bypassing the QtQuick cache.

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                                      #24

                                      @GrecKo
                                      I'll chill, thanks for the feedback!
                                      5.15 releases are either outdated, or commercial.
                                      Hence my reluctance to supporting them through the forum.

                                      Software Engineer
                                      The Qt Company, Oslo

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                                      • Axel SpoerlA Axel Spoerl

                                        @AdarshKale

                                        There are a few deprecated APIs used and many syntax changes if we upgrade to the latest 6.x version which is risky at this stage.

                                        How complex and risky can an opensource wheel rotation app be, when it has to fit into 500MB of RAM including OS and Qt?

                                        hence we are finding an alternative way.

                                        No matter how often you ask: Upgrade to Qt6 is the only option.

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                                        wrote on last edited by AdarshKale
                                        #25

                                        @Axel-Spoerl

                                        How complex and risky can an opensource wheel rotation app

                                        Wheel Rotation is just one feature among 100s of them in this project.
                                        We will consider upgrading to the latest Qt versions going further in upcoming projects.

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                                        • GrecKoG GrecKo

                                          @Axel-Spoerl said in Memory not released when multiple Image is loaded continuously:

                                          Qt 5.15 is an outdated Qt version. Given the simplicity of the project, cannot sound more like don't want to.

                                          You've got to chill. Qt 5.15 is still a supported LTS version. Doing a major version upgrade of a big depency like Qt is not a small meaningless task. It's very understandable that this can't been done in an advanced stage of a project.

                                          @AdarshKale as it seems there is no easy fix for your issue in Qt 5, a workaround would be to not use Image. What do you mean by wheel rotation? Is that changing the angle or rotating between multiple images? The formzr could be done by animating the rotation property.
                                          Alternatively if you do need to have multiple images, you could try implementing a custom QQuickPaintedItem and painting your images there, bypassing the QtQuick cache.

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                                          wrote on last edited by AdarshKale
                                          #26

                                          @GrecKo

                                          What do you mean by wheel rotation? Is that changing the angle or rotating between multiple images? The formzr could be done by animating the rotation property.

                                          Here this is not simple Image rotation, we have an axle with 2 wheels attached to them on both ends and we need to rotate the wheels alone based on the direction.
                                          We will try on the QQuickPaintedItem, Thanks for the input.

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