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  • JonBJ JonB

    @A123
    usr/include/boost/algorithm is a relative path. We need to know an absolute one. I will assume you mean

    /usr/include/boost/algorithm
    

    In that case to find <boost/algorithm/string.hpp> you will need INCLUDEPATH += /usr/include/. Which it may already have, and g++ should be looking in /usr/include anyway.

    From a terminal copy & paste

    ls -l /usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp
    

    and show the output.

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    @JonB

    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1061 Mar 16  2022 /usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp
    
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      if boost is installed as /usr/include/boost then your .pro file should not require any tweaking at all.

      #include <boost/whatever.hpp>

      should be adequate since /usr/include is a default search area.

      Only place it gets mucky is when the chosen boost classes are not completely implemented as header file templates...such as boost::filesystem::

      and cannot remember whether the preprocessor requires a space after #include. You don't have one.

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      • Kent-DorfmanK Kent-Dorfman

        if boost is installed as /usr/include/boost then your .pro file should not require any tweaking at all.

        #include <boost/whatever.hpp>

        should be adequate since /usr/include is a default search area.

        Only place it gets mucky is when the chosen boost classes are not completely implemented as header file templates...such as boost::filesystem::

        and cannot remember whether the preprocessor requires a space after #include. You don't have one.

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        @Kent-Dorfman said in Adding Boost to Creator:

        cannot remember whether the preprocessor requires a space after #include.

        My GCC 11.3 does not require a space. YMMV

        if boost is installed as /usr/include/boost then your .pro file should not require any tweaking at all.

        This is certainly the case on my Ubuntu machine. Nothing new required in the PRO file for that particular Boost header-only component.

        Including </usr/include/boost/filesystem.hpp>, or any other Boost component that must be compiled separately, and attempting to use any function within will generate link time errors like this:

        g++ -Wl,-O1 -o tt main.o   /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Gui.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so -lGL -lpthread   
        /usr/bin/ld: main.o: in function `main':
        main.cpp:(.text.startup+0xa7): undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::file_size(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::system::error_code*)'
        collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
        make: *** [Makefile:190: tt] Error 1
        

        This is possibly what @A123 is seeing.
        These Boost components will require

        LIBS += -lboost_filesystem
        

        or similar to function.

        @A123: If you cannot work it out, please post all the Boost-related #includes and the actual error message(s) with a small amount of context.

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          @Kent-Dorfman said in Adding Boost to Creator:

          cannot remember whether the preprocessor requires a space after #include.

          My GCC 11.3 does not require a space. YMMV

          if boost is installed as /usr/include/boost then your .pro file should not require any tweaking at all.

          This is certainly the case on my Ubuntu machine. Nothing new required in the PRO file for that particular Boost header-only component.

          Including </usr/include/boost/filesystem.hpp>, or any other Boost component that must be compiled separately, and attempting to use any function within will generate link time errors like this:

          g++ -Wl,-O1 -o tt main.o   /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Gui.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so -lGL -lpthread   
          /usr/bin/ld: main.o: in function `main':
          main.cpp:(.text.startup+0xa7): undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::file_size(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::system::error_code*)'
          collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
          make: *** [Makefile:190: tt] Error 1
          

          This is possibly what @A123 is seeing.
          These Boost components will require

          LIBS += -lboost_filesystem
          

          or similar to function.

          @A123: If you cannot work it out, please post all the Boost-related #includes and the actual error message(s) with a small amount of context.

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          @ChrisW67 said in Adding Boost to Creator:

          @A123: If you cannot work it out, please post all the Boost-related #includes and the actual error message(s) with a small amount of context.

          Offending code sample (missing string.hpp)
          erroredcode.png

          Error List
          issuelist.png

          Top of .pro file
          pro_file.png

          Location of boost files...ex string.hpp
          stringhlocation.png

          Build environment
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            @JonB

            -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1061 Mar 16  2022 /usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp
            
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            @A123
            There is something we do not understand going on here. In principle given that you have #include<boost/algorithm/string.hpp> it should be picking that up /usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp.

            Please open a terminal somewhere (some other empty directory within your /home area). Create file.cpp containing just:

            #include <boost/algorithm/string.hpp>
            

            (It should make no difference, but I have put a space before the <). Now just type in

            g++ -c file.cpp
            

            What do you get?

            Then try:

            g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp
            

            Now try changing the <..> to "...", i.e. #include "boost/algorithm/string.hpp" with that second command-line again.

            Finally, try #include "/usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp", so the -I... argument is irrelevant.

            Obviously we are only interested in what the compiler has to say about the #include line. I have suggested 4 things to try here. Do any of these work? Which work/fail?

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              @A123
              There is something we do not understand going on here. In principle given that you have #include<boost/algorithm/string.hpp> it should be picking that up /usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp.

              Please open a terminal somewhere (some other empty directory within your /home area). Create file.cpp containing just:

              #include <boost/algorithm/string.hpp>
              

              (It should make no difference, but I have put a space before the <). Now just type in

              g++ -c file.cpp
              

              What do you get?

              Then try:

              g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp
              

              Now try changing the <..> to "...", i.e. #include "boost/algorithm/string.hpp" with that second command-line again.

              Finally, try #include "/usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp", so the -I... argument is irrelevant.

              Obviously we are only interested in what the compiler has to say about the #include line. I have suggested 4 things to try here. Do any of these work? Which work/fail?

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              @JonB

              All work to generate file.o except

              g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp which has no such file or directory

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                @JonB

                All work to generate file.o except

                g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp which has no such file or directory

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                @A123

                g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp which has no such file or directory

                Well, that somehow looks like the situation you seem to be in from Creator.

                What I really don't get is you are saying

                g++ -c file.cpp
                

                does work, while

                g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp
                

                does not. Please confirm this is indeed exactly the case? It is vital we are 100% clear on this.

                Now that is weird, because the -I... only adds directories to search. Since you say it worked OK without this I cannot understand how adding could prevent the file being found.

                Next test:

                g++ -c -I/rubbish file.cpp    # then does this work or fail??
                

                I also asked you to try changing the #include from <...> to "...". Did you do that? I am only interested if that made it behave differently in any case?

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                  @A123

                  g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp which has no such file or directory

                  Well, that somehow looks like the situation you seem to be in from Creator.

                  What I really don't get is you are saying

                  g++ -c file.cpp
                  

                  does work, while

                  g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp
                  

                  does not. Please confirm this is indeed exactly the case? It is vital we are 100% clear on this.

                  Now that is weird, because the -I... only adds directories to search. Since you say it worked OK without this I cannot understand how adding could prevent the file being found.

                  Next test:

                  g++ -c -I/rubbish file.cpp    # then does this work or fail??
                  

                  I also asked you to try changing the #include from <...> to "...". Did you do that? I am only interested if that made it behave differently in any case?

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                  @JonB

                  I have file.cpp in sampleproject in the home directory. There is no fred.cpp file.

                  g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp
                  

                  gives me

                  cc1plus: fatal error: fred.cpp: No such file or directory
                  compilation terminated.
                  
                  g++ -c file.cpp
                  

                  works to generate file.o

                  g++ -c -I/rubbish file.cpp
                  

                  works

                  changing from <> to "" surrounding the include works.

                  I tried to start a new project in QT creator with file.cpp and the boost include was still not picked up.
                  In addition there is no usr/include in the system PATH variable when I

                  echo $PATH
                  

                  Not sure if that matters

                  This is Linux Mint 21 BTW

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                    @JonB

                    I have file.cpp in sampleproject in the home directory. There is no fred.cpp file.

                    g++ -c -I/usr/include fred.cpp
                    

                    gives me

                    cc1plus: fatal error: fred.cpp: No such file or directory
                    compilation terminated.
                    
                    g++ -c file.cpp
                    

                    works to generate file.o

                    g++ -c -I/rubbish file.cpp
                    

                    works

                    changing from <> to "" surrounding the include works.

                    I tried to start a new project in QT creator with file.cpp and the boost include was still not picked up.
                    In addition there is no usr/include in the system PATH variable when I

                    echo $PATH
                    

                    Not sure if that matters

                    This is Linux Mint 21 BTW

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                    @A123
                    OK, I'm tired. Whenever I wrote file.cpp or fred.cpp they were supposed to be the same thing. I will try to stick to file.cpp.

                    There are 4 combinations to try

                    g++ -c -I/usr/include file.cpp  # where file.cpp contains <...>
                    g++ -c -I/rubbish file.cpp  # where file.cpp contains <...>
                    g++ -c -I/usr/include file.cpp  # where file.cpp contains "..."
                    g++ -c -I/rubbish file.cpp  # where file.cpp contains "..."
                    

                    Can you clearly & unequivocally state which of these work and which fail?

                    Now that you say plain g++ -c file.cpp works then why did you ever start adding things to INCLUDEPATH, that means it should have worked from the very start with nothing added?

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                      I'm really beginning to sense a corrupted g++ compiler instance here. The stuff being described just shouldn't happen!

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                        @A123
                        OK, I'm tired. Whenever I wrote file.cpp or fred.cpp they were supposed to be the same thing. I will try to stick to file.cpp.

                        There are 4 combinations to try

                        g++ -c -I/usr/include file.cpp  # where file.cpp contains <...>
                        g++ -c -I/rubbish file.cpp  # where file.cpp contains <...>
                        g++ -c -I/usr/include file.cpp  # where file.cpp contains "..."
                        g++ -c -I/rubbish file.cpp  # where file.cpp contains "..."
                        

                        Can you clearly & unequivocally state which of these work and which fail?

                        Now that you say plain g++ -c file.cpp works then why did you ever start adding things to INCLUDEPATH, that means it should have worked from the very start with nothing added?

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                        @JonB

                        There are 4 combinations to try

                        All 4 generate file.o

                        Now that you say plain g++ -c file.cpp works then why did you ever start adding things to INCLUDEPATH, that means it should have worked from the very start with nothing added?

                        I was trying to get things to work from the QT creator IDE which still doesn't work. When I tried things out through terminal like you suggested it is able to find the boost library for the simple example. So I think the problem is some setting within QT creator itself.

                        For reference I am using QT creator 8.0.1, QT 6.3.1, and the QT6 Kit

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                          @JonB

                          There are 4 combinations to try

                          All 4 generate file.o

                          Now that you say plain g++ -c file.cpp works then why did you ever start adding things to INCLUDEPATH, that means it should have worked from the very start with nothing added?

                          I was trying to get things to work from the QT creator IDE which still doesn't work. When I tried things out through terminal like you suggested it is able to find the boost library for the simple example. So I think the problem is some setting within QT creator itself.

                          For reference I am using QT creator 8.0.1, QT 6.3.1, and the QT6 Kit

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                          @A123 said in Adding Boost to Creator:

                          All 4 generate file.o

                          OK. Not sure that was the impression I got previously, but I get it now. That ought to be a good start!

                          So I think the problem is some setting within QT creator itself.

                          Creator does not do compiling itself. It is an IDE which calls on external tools (e.g. g++) to do compilations.

                          Let's start by being 100.000% clear. Your screenshot shows errors. Do you indeed get these when you COMPILE ? If you only get these when looking at your source code in the IDE, not when you actually compile, now is the time to say so! That would be a totally different situation.... So please make this crystal clear?

                          Assuming you get them when you allow Creator to invoke the compiler. Then in principle there are really/mostly only two things in Creator which affect this:

                          • Show the actual command-line being issued to compile the file. You can find this in Creator on the Compiler Output pane.

                          • There is a Build Environment setting. That allows environment variables to be passed to the compiler which we do not see on its command-line. Do you have anything of interest there?

                          You could show these two.

                          One other random thought: you do not have a sub-directory named boost in, say, your source directory, or perhaps one level above it, do you??

                          You might also try the following from a terminal:

                          find / -name boost -type d -print
                          

                          Does it only report one directory named boost? Just in /usr/include, nowhere else, right?

                          Last thing: you might try setting up a brand new project in a brand new directory as a Qt project. Add only the file.cpp containing just the #include line. Try to compile. Success or failure?

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                            @A123 said in Adding Boost to Creator:

                            All 4 generate file.o

                            OK. Not sure that was the impression I got previously, but I get it now. That ought to be a good start!

                            So I think the problem is some setting within QT creator itself.

                            Creator does not do compiling itself. It is an IDE which calls on external tools (e.g. g++) to do compilations.

                            Let's start by being 100.000% clear. Your screenshot shows errors. Do you indeed get these when you COMPILE ? If you only get these when looking at your source code in the IDE, not when you actually compile, now is the time to say so! That would be a totally different situation.... So please make this crystal clear?

                            Assuming you get them when you allow Creator to invoke the compiler. Then in principle there are really/mostly only two things in Creator which affect this:

                            • Show the actual command-line being issued to compile the file. You can find this in Creator on the Compiler Output pane.

                            • There is a Build Environment setting. That allows environment variables to be passed to the compiler which we do not see on its command-line. Do you have anything of interest there?

                            You could show these two.

                            One other random thought: you do not have a sub-directory named boost in, say, your source directory, or perhaps one level above it, do you??

                            You might also try the following from a terminal:

                            find / -name boost -type d -print
                            

                            Does it only report one directory named boost? Just in /usr/include, nowhere else, right?

                            Last thing: you might try setting up a brand new project in a brand new directory as a Qt project. Add only the file.cpp containing just the #include line. Try to compile. Success or failure?

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                            @JonB

                            Let's start by being 100.000% clear. Your screenshot shows errors. Do you indeed get these when you COMPILE ? If you only get these when looking at your source code in the IDE, not when you actually compile, now is the time to say so! That would be a totally different situation.... So please make this crystal clear?

                            The line is labeled with a 'no such file or directory' error as soon as I paste it into the Creator code edit window. It pops up again in compile output when I attempt to build the project.

                            Assuming you get them when you allow Creator to invoke the compiler. Then in principle there are really/mostly only two things in Creator which affect this:

                            I put an empty file with the include in a sample project.

                            15:02:39: Running steps for project sampleproj2...
                            15:02:39: Starting: "/app/bin/qmake" /home/samp/sampleproj2/sampleproj2.pro -spec linux-g++ CONFIG+=debug CONFIG+=qml_debug
                            15:02:39: The process "/app/bin/qmake" exited normally.
                            15:02:39: Starting: "/usr/bin/make" -f /home/samp/build-sampleproj2-Qt6-Debug/Makefile qmake_all
                            make: Nothing to be done for 'qmake_all'.
                            15:02:39: The process "/usr/bin/make" exited normally.
                            15:02:39: Starting: "/usr/bin/make" -j16
                            g++ -c -pipe -g -std=gnu++1z -Wall -Wextra -fPIC -DQT_QML_DEBUG -I../sampleproj2 -I. -I/app/mkspecs/linux-g++ -o file.o ../sampleproj2/file.cpp
                            ../sampleproj2/file.cpp:1:10: fatal error: boost/algorithm/string.hpp: No such file or directory
                                1 | #include <boost/algorithm/string.hpp>
                                  |          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                            compilation terminated.
                            make: *** [Makefile:875: file.o] Error 1
                            15:02:39: The process "/usr/bin/make" exited with code 2.
                            Error while building/deploying project sampleproj2 (kit: Qt6)
                            When executing step "Make"
                            15:02:39: Elapsed time: 00:00.
                            

                            There is a Build Environment setting. That allows environment variables to be passed to the compiler which we do not see on its command-line. Do you have anything of interest there?
                            be3.png be2.png be1.png

                            One other random thought: you do not have a sub-directory named boost in, say, your source directory, or perhaps one level above it, do you??

                            nope

                            Does it only report one directory named boost? Just in /usr/include, nowhere else, right?

                            sudo find / -name boost -type d -print
                            find: ‘/run/user/1000/doc’: Permission denied
                            find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
                            /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/boost
                            /usr/lib/llvm-14/include/clang-tidy/boost
                            /usr/include/boost
                            /usr/include/boost/hana/ext/boost
                            /usr/include/boost/chrono/typeof/boost
                            

                            Last thing: you might try setting up a brand new project in a brand new directory as a Qt project. Add only the file.cpp containing just the #include line. Try to compile. Success or failure?

                            Failure as shown above.

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                              @JonB

                              Let's start by being 100.000% clear. Your screenshot shows errors. Do you indeed get these when you COMPILE ? If you only get these when looking at your source code in the IDE, not when you actually compile, now is the time to say so! That would be a totally different situation.... So please make this crystal clear?

                              The line is labeled with a 'no such file or directory' error as soon as I paste it into the Creator code edit window. It pops up again in compile output when I attempt to build the project.

                              Assuming you get them when you allow Creator to invoke the compiler. Then in principle there are really/mostly only two things in Creator which affect this:

                              I put an empty file with the include in a sample project.

                              15:02:39: Running steps for project sampleproj2...
                              15:02:39: Starting: "/app/bin/qmake" /home/samp/sampleproj2/sampleproj2.pro -spec linux-g++ CONFIG+=debug CONFIG+=qml_debug
                              15:02:39: The process "/app/bin/qmake" exited normally.
                              15:02:39: Starting: "/usr/bin/make" -f /home/samp/build-sampleproj2-Qt6-Debug/Makefile qmake_all
                              make: Nothing to be done for 'qmake_all'.
                              15:02:39: The process "/usr/bin/make" exited normally.
                              15:02:39: Starting: "/usr/bin/make" -j16
                              g++ -c -pipe -g -std=gnu++1z -Wall -Wextra -fPIC -DQT_QML_DEBUG -I../sampleproj2 -I. -I/app/mkspecs/linux-g++ -o file.o ../sampleproj2/file.cpp
                              ../sampleproj2/file.cpp:1:10: fatal error: boost/algorithm/string.hpp: No such file or directory
                                  1 | #include <boost/algorithm/string.hpp>
                                    |          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                              compilation terminated.
                              make: *** [Makefile:875: file.o] Error 1
                              15:02:39: The process "/usr/bin/make" exited with code 2.
                              Error while building/deploying project sampleproj2 (kit: Qt6)
                              When executing step "Make"
                              15:02:39: Elapsed time: 00:00.
                              

                              There is a Build Environment setting. That allows environment variables to be passed to the compiler which we do not see on its command-line. Do you have anything of interest there?
                              be3.png be2.png be1.png

                              One other random thought: you do not have a sub-directory named boost in, say, your source directory, or perhaps one level above it, do you??

                              nope

                              Does it only report one directory named boost? Just in /usr/include, nowhere else, right?

                              sudo find / -name boost -type d -print
                              find: ‘/run/user/1000/doc’: Permission denied
                              find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
                              /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/boost
                              /usr/lib/llvm-14/include/clang-tidy/boost
                              /usr/include/boost
                              /usr/include/boost/hana/ext/boost
                              /usr/include/boost/chrono/typeof/boost
                              

                              Last thing: you might try setting up a brand new project in a brand new directory as a Qt project. Add only the file.cpp containing just the #include line. Try to compile. Success or failure?

                              Failure as shown above.

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                              @A123
                              You have answered all my questions, but I'm sorry I just cannot spot what is wrong. You have shown:

                              • The file /usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp really does exist.
                              • Sample programs with #include <boost/algorithm/string.hpp> compiled outside of Qt Creator work fine.
                              • Programs, including a standalone one-liner project, with that line compiled inside Creator complain "no such file".
                              • From Creator I cannot see anything significant in the command-line or the environment passed to g++ which would change the include search path behaviour.

                              You might just verify one thing. So far you have used #include <boost/algorithm/string.hpp> which ought find /usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp. Go look just in directory /usr/include/boost/ and pick some other .hpp or .h file which lives at that level. I don't know what is there. Say there is a boostfile.hpp. Then try #include <boost/boostfile.hpp>. I presume that fails equally? Otherwise if that succeeds there is something about the particular string.hpp file/path.

                              Whatever the issue it should be something really simple! If I had your machine in front of me I would be confident of diagnosing whatever it is. But as it stands I am out of ideas. You will need someone else to look through with a fresh pair of eyes to see if they can spot what it might be.

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                                @A123
                                You have answered all my questions, but I'm sorry I just cannot spot what is wrong. You have shown:

                                • The file /usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp really does exist.
                                • Sample programs with #include <boost/algorithm/string.hpp> compiled outside of Qt Creator work fine.
                                • Programs, including a standalone one-liner project, with that line compiled inside Creator complain "no such file".
                                • From Creator I cannot see anything significant in the command-line or the environment passed to g++ which would change the include search path behaviour.

                                You might just verify one thing. So far you have used #include <boost/algorithm/string.hpp> which ought find /usr/include/boost/algorithm/string.hpp. Go look just in directory /usr/include/boost/ and pick some other .hpp or .h file which lives at that level. I don't know what is there. Say there is a boostfile.hpp. Then try #include <boost/boostfile.hpp>. I presume that fails equally? Otherwise if that succeeds there is something about the particular string.hpp file/path.

                                Whatever the issue it should be something really simple! If I had your machine in front of me I would be confident of diagnosing whatever it is. But as it stands I am out of ideas. You will need someone else to look through with a fresh pair of eyes to see if they can spot what it might be.

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                                @JonB it also fails with other files. As a workaround I finally just moved boost to the Documents folder and it picked it up. It might be due to my system folders being on a separate partition which is standard practice in linux installs.

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