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  • Chris KawaC Offline
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    Chris Kawa
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    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    This will happen when you call a method on a deleted object. this points to garbage and any access to its members results in seg fault. Make sure your object is still alive when you call this function.

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    • Chris KawaC Chris Kawa

      This will happen when you call a method on a deleted object. this points to garbage and any access to its members results in seg fault. Make sure your object is still alive when you call this function.

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      Seb Tur
      wrote on last edited by Seb Tur
      #8

      @Chris-Kawa

      I don't understand
      I'm calling this check in a method belonging to inicio_common class and param also belongs there.
      so when I create an object

      inicio_common *common_object;
      so then it gets its member from .h
      common_object->param =nullptr

      so
      method common_object->parameter_read()
      reffers to common_object->param

      Param is a sibling member , so how come it's parent "this" can be garbage? If this was garbage than its method read_paramater wouldnt't be called either?
      I don't delete param in any method in inicio_common class. It is a private member.

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      • JoeCFDJ Offline
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        wrote on last edited by JoeCFD
        #9

        @Seb-Tur said in if (my_pointer==nullptr) causes segmentation fault:

        inicio_common *common_object;

        how did you create this one: inicio_common *common_object{}; ? is it nullptr?

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        • Seb TurS Seb Tur

          @Chris-Kawa

          I don't understand
          I'm calling this check in a method belonging to inicio_common class and param also belongs there.
          so when I create an object

          inicio_common *common_object;
          so then it gets its member from .h
          common_object->param =nullptr

          so
          method common_object->parameter_read()
          reffers to common_object->param

          Param is a sibling member , so how come it's parent "this" can be garbage? If this was garbage than its method read_paramater wouldnt't be called either?
          I don't delete param in any method in inicio_common class. It is a private member.

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          Christian Ehrlicher
          Lifetime Qt Champion
          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          @Seb-Tur said in if (my_pointer==nullptr) causes segmentation fault:

          If this was garbage than its method read_paramater wouldnt't be called either?

          Why not? Who would prevent it?

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          • JoeCFDJ JoeCFD

            @Seb-Tur said in if (my_pointer==nullptr) causes segmentation fault:

            inicio_common *common_object;

            how did you create this one: inicio_common *common_object{}; ? is it nullptr?

            Seb TurS Offline
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            Seb Tur
            wrote on last edited by
            #11

            @JoeCFD

            declared in mainwindow.h as
            inicio_common = *common_object =nullptr

            than contructed at the begining of mainwindow.cpp

            common_object = new inicio_common();

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            • Seb TurS Seb Tur

              @JoeCFD

              declared in mainwindow.h as
              inicio_common = *common_object =nullptr

              than contructed at the begining of mainwindow.cpp

              common_object = new inicio_common();

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              JoeCFD
              wrote on last edited by
              #12

              @Seb-Tur I guess it is better for you to show more code.

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              • Chris KawaC Offline
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                Chris Kawa
                Lifetime Qt Champion
                wrote on last edited by Chris Kawa
                #13

                @Seb-Tur It's not the param member that is deleted. It's the instance of class inicio_common.

                One case where this would happen:

                inicio_common *common_object;       // common_object is an uninitialized variable
                common_object->parameter_read(...); // calling method with garbage "this" -> crash
                

                another way the same happens:

                inicio_common *common_object = new inicio_common(); // common_object is initialized, ok
                common_object->parameter_read(...);                 // works
                delete common_object;                               // common_object now points to garbage
                common_object->parameter_read(...);                 // calling method with garbage "this" -> crash
                

                If this was garbage than its method read_paramater wouldnt't be called either?

                There's nothing in C++ language preventing that. You can create pointers pointing to random memory and call methods on them. For example:

                QString* foo = (QString*)12345; // because why not
                foo->clear();                   // garbage "this" -> crash
                
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                • Seb TurS Offline
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                  Seb Tur
                  wrote on last edited by Seb Tur
                  #14

                  Thanks all for the support, your hints directed me to the right path to find an error I had no idea was an error.

                  Here's the scenario :

                  I used common_object in mainwindow doing various activities and all was fine;

                  at some point I was passing the common_object pointer in a constructor to another object of action_class that needed some properties of inicio_common object.,

                  action_class.h contained

                  inicio_common *ref_common = nullptr;
                  

                  but action class cunstructor was capturing the common_object

                  action_class::action_class(inicio_common *common)
                  {
                    ref_common = common;
                  }
                  

                  so in the mainwindow I had common_object used by mainwindow and action_class_object because I run:

                  action_class *action_class_object = new (common_object);
                  

                  After I was done with the actions I deleted action_class_object with

                  delete(action_class_object);

                  and this seems to have deleted the common_object by deleting ref_common in cascade .... I guess
                  Does it make sense or is it just my wicked thinking?

                  Anyway I still don't get why if(param==nullptr) would crash instead of returning true;

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                  • Seb TurS Seb Tur

                    Thanks all for the support, your hints directed me to the right path to find an error I had no idea was an error.

                    Here's the scenario :

                    I used common_object in mainwindow doing various activities and all was fine;

                    at some point I was passing the common_object pointer in a constructor to another object of action_class that needed some properties of inicio_common object.,

                    action_class.h contained

                    inicio_common *ref_common = nullptr;
                    

                    but action class cunstructor was capturing the common_object

                    action_class::action_class(inicio_common *common)
                    {
                      ref_common = common;
                    }
                    

                    so in the mainwindow I had common_object used by mainwindow and action_class_object because I run:

                    action_class *action_class_object = new (common_object);
                    

                    After I was done with the actions I deleted action_class_object with

                    delete(action_class_object);

                    and this seems to have deleted the common_object by deleting ref_common in cascade .... I guess
                    Does it make sense or is it just my wicked thinking?

                    Anyway I still don't get why if(param==nullptr) would crash instead of returning true;

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                    Chris Kawa
                    Lifetime Qt Champion
                    wrote on last edited by Chris Kawa
                    #15

                    @Seb-Tur said:

                    and this seems to have deleted the common_object by deleting ref_common in cascade .... I guess

                    delete something does not delete "something". It deletes the thing that "something" points to. "something" points to garbage after that. If you copy a pointer you copy a pointer. You're not copying the object it points to, so when you delete the object via one pointer both the original and the copied pointer point to the same garbage memory.

                    Anyway I still don't get why if(param==nullptr) would crash instead of returning true;

                    It's not the if that is crashing. It can't return anything because it's not even executed. It doesn't get to the comparison operator. this points to garbage, so this->param is trying to read a value from garbage memory. Reading from garbage memory is access violation and terminates your app.

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                    • Chris KawaC Chris Kawa

                      @Seb-Tur said:

                      and this seems to have deleted the common_object by deleting ref_common in cascade .... I guess

                      delete something does not delete "something". It deletes the thing that "something" points to. "something" points to garbage after that. If you copy a pointer you copy a pointer. You're not copying the object it points to, so when you delete the object via one pointer both the original and the copied pointer point to the same garbage memory.

                      Anyway I still don't get why if(param==nullptr) would crash instead of returning true;

                      It's not the if that is crashing. It can't return anything because it's not even executed. It doesn't get to the comparison operator. this points to garbage, so this->param is trying to read a value from garbage memory. Reading from garbage memory is access violation and terminates your app.

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                      Christian Ehrlicher
                      Lifetime Qt Champion
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #16

                      @Chris-Kawa said in if (my_pointer==nullptr) causes segmentation fault:

                      this points to garbage, so this->param is trying to read a value from garbage memory. Reading from garbage memory is access violation and terminates your app.

                      Not that I said it in my first post... :)

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