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    Wolf P.
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    [quote author="Denis Kormalev" date="1294396304"]It is obvious that user will rate up his own content. [/quote] not all users are sharks ;)

    [quote author="Denis Kormalev" date="1294396304"]Maybe removing (or greying out) "rate this up" button will be ok.[/quote] Maybe better to have mistakes that give such impulses. I'd prefer good solutions over perfect ones. Now we can gray it out (hide it), but we can also make sense of this little mistake, when we have the option to give rating the true meaning of rating :)

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      Wolf P.
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      Alexandra, in my opinion, we need no adoption of "I like this" buttons, whe are already rating :)

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        andre
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        [quote author="Denis Kormalev" date="1294396304"]Wolf P., hm, not soure that I understood correctly, but restriction for rating your own content is by design. It is obvious that user will rate up his own content.
        Maybe removing (or greying out) "rate this up" button will be ok.[/quote]

        Well, but the rating is on the level of the whole topic, which, I would hope, consists of more than just the opening poster's content, at least after a while. Or can't anyone who posted in the topic rate the topic anymore? If the author of the opening post feels the thread contains useful information, why not allow him/her to rate it up?

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          goetz
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          [quote author="Andre" date="1294398881"]Or can't anyone who posted in the topic rate the topic anymore? If the author of the opening post feels the thread contains useful information, why not allow him/her to rate it up?
          [/quote]

          Commentators still can rate the post up, only the OP is denied that.

          http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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            andre
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            [quote author="Volker" date="1294400391"][quote author="Andre" date="1294398881"]Or can't anyone who posted in the topic rate the topic anymore? If the author of the opening post feels the thread contains useful information, why not allow him/her to rate it up?
            [/quote]

            Commentators still can rate the post up, only the OP is denied that.
            [/quote]
            Seems inconsistent to me then.

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              troubalex
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              [quote author="Wolf P." date="1294397324"]Alexandra, in my opinion, we need no adoption of "I like this" buttons, whe are already rating :)[/quote]

              Nonono. You're mixing up things here. What we already have is the "Like" button if you want, you're right. What we will implement is a way of saying "thanks" to a certain user to build Karma.

              Is it more clear now?

              THE CAKE IS A LIE
              Web Community Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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                Wolf P.
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                Volker, Absolutely. Inconsistent.
                The button hint is the proof.

                I forgot this third option:
                rating could also make points for all posters (up to the rating time).

                or a combination in option number four:
                rating gives 2 points for OP and 1 for each poster. This will heavily improve the quality, becaus abuse is detected very fast: it is done by those who do consistently one Reply.
                And leads to more response.

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                  Wolf P.
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                  [quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1294400531"]
                  Nonono. You're mixing up things here. What we already have is the "Like" button if you want, you're right. What we will implement is a way of saying "thanks" to a certain user to build Karma.[/quote]
                  noOOO!
                  This button its a dummy???
                  A pure point producer???
                  Say that I'm wrong. :)

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                    goetz
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                    [quote author="Wolf P." date="1294401061"][quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1294400531"]
                    Nonono. You're mixing up things here. What we already have is the "Like" button if you want, you're right. What we will implement is a way of saying "thanks" to a certain user to build Karma.[/quote]
                    noOOO!
                    This button its a dummy???
                    A pure point producer???
                    Say that I'm wrong. :)

                    [/quote]

                    Sorry, you're right :-)

                    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                      Wolf P.
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                      ...and when will we convert this penalty into a goal?

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                        troubalex
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                        I'll try again. ;)

                        The rating button is supposed to identify valuable content. It's similar to the thumbs-up button on Facebook that recommends something to your friends. By rating content up you recommend it to others and influence its position in the search results if users search for tags. That's all.

                        The second part to this is the Q(uestion)&A(nswer) features. They reflect on the creator of the content (helpful answer, solved the problem) while the rating only reflects on the content itself.

                        THE CAKE IS A LIE
                        Web Community Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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                          andre
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                          So why can't the opening poster of a topic rate that topic up then? I mean, if I get an excellent answer to my question, why help make that usefulness visible to other by rating it up?

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                            dangelog
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                            IMHO I don't see any value in rating a thread up or down...

                            Software Engineer
                            KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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                              Wolf P.
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                              Alexandra, thanks for the point, I had lost sight of. The number is a measure for awereness in the community (maybe also for quality). // ...and you'll agree: the points go in the wrong direction

                              For the second I'm wondering how it can be sooo hard to implement. People will love it :)

                              peppe, rating would be helpful if it was implemented the right way, I'm sure.

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                                fcrochik
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                                "Rate" implies to me some kind of evaluation/grade. If it was just called "Like" maybe it would make for less discussions around it. IMHO as it is, like or rate, does not add much value.

                                The number of views is probably a better and more reliable indicator for me.
                                If the idea is to rate we should, at least, have the rate up or down or, better yet, a score 1-5. Still, I don't know how much this helps anybody deciding to read or not a thread.
                                I really like the idea of "thanking" a post (not thread) because I believe helps to measure quality and not just quantity. Also whenever we get to the next wave of "Q&A" features it will help identify the "best" answers to a question....

                                Just my 1 1/2 cts :)

                                Certified Specialist & Qt Ambassador <a href="http://www.crochik.com">Maemo, Meego, Symbian, Playbook, RaspberryPi, Desktop... Qt everywhere!</a>

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                                  fcrochik
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                                  One more little comment: now that elf left the town you can tell that people are not so eager to score points... People love competition and sometimes go crazy because of them.

                                  Note, I am not saying that the project elf was a bad thing.

                                  Certified Specialist & Qt Ambassador <a href="http://www.crochik.com">Maemo, Meego, Symbian, Playbook, RaspberryPi, Desktop... Qt everywhere!</a>

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                                    dangelog
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                                    [quote author="Wolf P." date="1294413867"]peppe, rating would be helpful if it was implemented the right way, I'm sure.[/quote]

                                    Why? What's the point in rating threads? Do people really find interesting threads by their rating instead of typing some keywords on google because they have a problem to solve?

                                    Software Engineer
                                    KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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                                      Wolf P.
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                                      Does anybody know whether there is already an issue pending for this rating nightmare?
                                      If yes, would you please give us a link?

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                                        Wolf P.
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                                        [quote author="peppe" date="1294414113"] Why? What's the point in rating threads? Do people really find interesting threads by their rating instead of typing some keywords on google because they have a problem to solve?[/quote] It's just an one-star rating system - why not? Where is you acceptance limit in a five-star system: 2.5 stars?

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                                          Wolf P.
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                                          [quote author="Andre" date="1294412101"]So why can't the opening poster of a topic rate that topic up then? I mean, if I get an excellent answer to my question, why help make that usefulness visible to other by rating it up?[/quote]

                                          warm up Why can't the OP rate his/her "own thread" without earning points?

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