[=b Rate this up] - Cannot rate your own content
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Please make something good from it.
either hide the button for "own content" (thats sure false, because the entire thread is not the original posters content)
or give the original poster points for each rating of her/his proposalsee also "How to avoid ratings users give just for gaining points":http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/900/
[EDIT] "=b" is the thumbs up icon ;) and "Cannot rate..." is the text of the hint on mouseover
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Wolf P., hm, not soure that I understood correctly, but restriction for rating your own content is by design. It is obvious that user will rate up his own content.
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I see, it's confusing because there is still something important missing in the forum: the Q&A features.
The rating as we see it now is not meant to "reward" the user who has written the piece of content to be rated. It is nothing but a way to indicate which pieces are the most useful and should show on top of the tag search list.
The Q&A features will make it possible to "reward" users for answers on the forum. Currently, we're thinking something like "helpful" and "solving" buttons. That may change but so far, that's the idea.
The plan is to have that implemented before summer.
[DISCLAIMER: Plan means plan, not guarantee. :P]
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[quote author="Denis Kormalev" date="1294396304"]It is obvious that user will rate up his own content. [/quote] not all users are sharks ;)
[quote author="Denis Kormalev" date="1294396304"]Maybe removing (or greying out) "rate this up" button will be ok.[/quote] Maybe better to have mistakes that give such impulses. I'd prefer good solutions over perfect ones. Now we can gray it out (hide it), but we can also make sense of this little mistake, when we have the option to give rating the true meaning of rating :)
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[quote author="Denis Kormalev" date="1294396304"]Wolf P., hm, not soure that I understood correctly, but restriction for rating your own content is by design. It is obvious that user will rate up his own content.
Maybe removing (or greying out) "rate this up" button will be ok.[/quote]Well, but the rating is on the level of the whole topic, which, I would hope, consists of more than just the opening poster's content, at least after a while. Or can't anyone who posted in the topic rate the topic anymore? If the author of the opening post feels the thread contains useful information, why not allow him/her to rate it up?
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[quote author="Andre" date="1294398881"]Or can't anyone who posted in the topic rate the topic anymore? If the author of the opening post feels the thread contains useful information, why not allow him/her to rate it up?
[/quote]Commentators still can rate the post up, only the OP is denied that.
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[quote author="Volker" date="1294400391"][quote author="Andre" date="1294398881"]Or can't anyone who posted in the topic rate the topic anymore? If the author of the opening post feels the thread contains useful information, why not allow him/her to rate it up?
[/quote]Commentators still can rate the post up, only the OP is denied that.
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[quote author="Wolf P." date="1294397324"]Alexandra, in my opinion, we need no adoption of "I like this" buttons, whe are already rating :)[/quote]
Nonono. You're mixing up things here. What we already have is the "Like" button if you want, you're right. What we will implement is a way of saying "thanks" to a certain user to build Karma.
Is it more clear now?
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Volker, Absolutely. Inconsistent.
The button hint is the proof.I forgot this third option:
rating could also make points for all posters (up to the rating time).or a combination in option number four:
rating gives 2 points for OP and 1 for each poster. This will heavily improve the quality, becaus abuse is detected very fast: it is done by those who do consistently one Reply.
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[quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1294400531"]
Nonono. You're mixing up things here. What we already have is the "Like" button if you want, you're right. What we will implement is a way of saying "thanks" to a certain user to build Karma.[/quote]
noOOO!
This button its a dummy???
A pure point producer???
Say that I'm wrong. :) -
[quote author="Wolf P." date="1294401061"][quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1294400531"]
Nonono. You're mixing up things here. What we already have is the "Like" button if you want, you're right. What we will implement is a way of saying "thanks" to a certain user to build Karma.[/quote]
noOOO!
This button its a dummy???
A pure point producer???
Say that I'm wrong. :)[/quote]
Sorry, you're right :-)
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I'll try again. ;)
The rating button is supposed to identify valuable content. It's similar to the thumbs-up button on Facebook that recommends something to your friends. By rating content up you recommend it to others and influence its position in the search results if users search for tags. That's all.
The second part to this is the Q(uestion)&A(nswer) features. They reflect on the creator of the content (helpful answer, solved the problem) while the rating only reflects on the content itself.
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Alexandra, thanks for the point, I had lost sight of. The number is a measure for awereness in the community (maybe also for quality). // ...and you'll agree: the points go in the wrong direction
For the second I'm wondering how it can be sooo hard to implement. People will love it :)
peppe, rating would be helpful if it was implemented the right way, I'm sure.
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"Rate" implies to me some kind of evaluation/grade. If it was just called "Like" maybe it would make for less discussions around it. IMHO as it is, like or rate, does not add much value.
The number of views is probably a better and more reliable indicator for me.
If the idea is to rate we should, at least, have the rate up or down or, better yet, a score 1-5. Still, I don't know how much this helps anybody deciding to read or not a thread.
I really like the idea of "thanking" a post (not thread) because I believe helps to measure quality and not just quantity. Also whenever we get to the next wave of "Q&A" features it will help identify the "best" answers to a question....Just my 1 1/2 cts :)
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[quote author="Wolf P." date="1294413867"]peppe, rating would be helpful if it was implemented the right way, I'm sure.[/quote]
Why? What's the point in rating threads? Do people really find interesting threads by their rating instead of typing some keywords on google because they have a problem to solve?