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  • Q Qt embedded developer

    i want to know why c2 not contain "hell" in c2?

    i want to know what is technical reason behind it.

    char* c= "hello world",*c2;
    

    c2= NULL;
    strncpy(c2,c,4);
    cout<<c2<<endl;

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    Christian Ehrlicher
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    @Qt-embedded-developer said in why strncpy not copy 4 character in c2 ?:

    i want to know what is technical reason behind it.

    c2 is an uninitialized pointer - you have luck it doesn't crash at all.

    Maybe learning basic c(++) stuff would be a good start.

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    • Q Qt embedded developer

      i want to know why c2 not contain "hell" in c2?

      i want to know what is technical reason behind it.

      char* c= "hello world",*c2;
      

      c2= NULL;
      strncpy(c2,c,4);
      cout<<c2<<endl;

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      JonB
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      @Qt-embedded-developer
      And where does c2 point to in your code?

      As a separate matter, depending on whether you have any further code, you may not see anything anyway. How about cout<<c2<<endl?

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      • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

        @Qt-embedded-developer said in why strncpy not copy 4 character in c2 ?:

        i want to know what is technical reason behind it.

        c2 is an uninitialized pointer - you have luck it doesn't crash at all.

        Maybe learning basic c(++) stuff would be a good start.

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        #4

        @Christian-Ehrlicher i have edited the question. can you just let me know why what i expect not come in output.

        i have seen that when i use char array it show output what i expect. but why its not possible with char* ?

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        • Q Qt embedded developer

          @Christian-Ehrlicher i have edited the question. can you just let me know why what i expect not come in output.

          i have seen that when i use char array it show output what i expect. but why its not possible with char* ?

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          @Qt-embedded-developer
          Goodness, how does setting to c2 to NULL help? Do you not understand strncpy(), please read its documentation.....

          i have seen that when i use char array it show output what i expect. but why its not possible with char* ?

          Sorry, but you really need to read up on C basics....

          Further, you will see it does not put a terminating \0 into the destination area. If cout<<s2 prints something it would be hell followed by an unknown stream of random characters.....

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          • JonBJ JonB

            @Qt-embedded-developer
            Goodness, how does setting to c2 to NULL help? Do you not understand strncpy(), please read its documentation.....

            i have seen that when i use char array it show output what i expect. but why its not possible with char* ?

            Sorry, but you really need to read up on C basics....

            Further, you will see it does not put a terminating \0 into the destination area. If cout<<s2 prints something it would be hell followed by an unknown stream of random characters.....

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            @JonB

            why this show correct output then ?

            char* c= "hello world",c2[10];
            memset(c2,0x00,sizeof(c2));
            strncpy(c2,c,4);

            cout<<c2;

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            • Q Qt embedded developer

              @JonB

              why this show correct output then ?

              char* c= "hello world",c2[10];
              memset(c2,0x00,sizeof(c2));
              strncpy(c2,c,4);

              cout<<c2;

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              @Qt-embedded-developer
              Precisely because that avoids all the faults previously mentioned in your code!

              char c2[10] allocates 10 bytes of storage which c2 "points to".

              char *c2 allocates no storage for c2 to point to. You would either need to malloc() space, or set c2 to point to, say, a char c3[10] which does allocate storage.

              You seem to think char c2[10] and char *c2 are "the same thing", which they are not.

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              • JonBJ JonB

                @Qt-embedded-developer
                Goodness, how does setting to c2 to NULL help? Do you not understand strncpy(), please read its documentation.....

                i have seen that when i use char array it show output what i expect. but why its not possible with char* ?

                Sorry, but you really need to read up on C basics....

                Further, you will see it does not put a terminating \0 into the destination area. If cout<<s2 prints something it would be hell followed by an unknown stream of random characters.....

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                @JonB can you give example to put \0 in above example code ?

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                • Q Qt embedded developer

                  @JonB can you give example to put \0 in above example code ?

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                  @Qt-embedded-developer
                  I really, really should not have to do this....

                  char *c = "hello world";
                  char c2[10];
                  strncpy(c2, c, 4);
                  c2[4] = '\0';
                  cout << c2 << endl;
                  

                  One further thing: these days, using C++ (and also Qt), you really should no longer need to use C library functions like strncpy() (or malloc()). There are better, safer ways to do that, e.g. using C++ std::string or Qt QString (and new for malloc()). Same with e.g. QByteArray instead of memcpy/set().

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                  • JonBJ JonB

                    @Qt-embedded-developer
                    I really, really should not have to do this....

                    char *c = "hello world";
                    char c2[10];
                    strncpy(c2, c, 4);
                    c2[4] = '\0';
                    cout << c2 << endl;
                    

                    One further thing: these days, using C++ (and also Qt), you really should no longer need to use C library functions like strncpy() (or malloc()). There are better, safer ways to do that, e.g. using C++ std::string or Qt QString (and new for malloc()). Same with e.g. QByteArray instead of memcpy/set().

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                    @JonB said in why strncpy not copy 4 character in c2 ?:

                    char *c = "hello world";
                    char c2[10];
                    strncpy(c2, c, 4);
                    c2[4] = '\0';
                    cout << c2 << endl;

                    sorry for not clearly say about code. i said about below code.

                    can you just let me know what change in below code i need to do to add '\0'.

                    char* c= "hello world",*c2;
                    c2= NULL;
                    memset(c2,0x00,sizeof(c2));
                    strncpy(c2,c,4);

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                    • Q Qt embedded developer

                      @JonB said in why strncpy not copy 4 character in c2 ?:

                      char *c = "hello world";
                      char c2[10];
                      strncpy(c2, c, 4);
                      c2[4] = '\0';
                      cout << c2 << endl;

                      sorry for not clearly say about code. i said about below code.

                      can you just let me know what change in below code i need to do to add '\0'.

                      char* c= "hello world",*c2;
                      c2= NULL;
                      memset(c2,0x00,sizeof(c2));
                      strncpy(c2,c,4);

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                      JonB
                      wrote on last edited by JonB
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                      @Qt-embedded-developer
                      No, I'm sorry, I have reached my limit as to what I consider suitable to write/explain for you on this Qt site. For your own good you need to (a) read up about basic C, (b) understand code and (c) write/adapt your own for really simple stuff instead of asking someone else to do it for you.

                      • You have ignored what I said about c2 = NULL, and any understanding of allocating space.
                      • You have not made any attempt to look at what I did write for you and plainly/easily apply it to your new case.
                      • You have written (copied?) memset(c2,0x00,sizeof(c2)); and not understood how that would affect any need to "add '\0'.".
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                      • Q Qt embedded developer

                        @JonB said in why strncpy not copy 4 character in c2 ?:

                        char *c = "hello world";
                        char c2[10];
                        strncpy(c2, c, 4);
                        c2[4] = '\0';
                        cout << c2 << endl;

                        sorry for not clearly say about code. i said about below code.

                        can you just let me know what change in below code i need to do to add '\0'.

                        char* c= "hello world",*c2;
                        c2= NULL;
                        memset(c2,0x00,sizeof(c2));
                        strncpy(c2,c,4);

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                        jsulm
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                        @Qt-embedded-developer said in why strncpy not copy 4 character in c2 ?:

                        can you just let me know what change in below code i need to do to add '\0'.

                        YOU NEED TO ALLOCATE MEMORY FOR c2...
                        You was already told so here: "You would either need to malloc() space, or set c2 to point to, say, a char c3[10]".
                        Please try at least to understand what others are writing.

                        As others already pointed out: learn C/C++ basics.

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                        • jsulmJ jsulm

                          @Qt-embedded-developer said in why strncpy not copy 4 character in c2 ?:

                          can you just let me know what change in below code i need to do to add '\0'.

                          YOU NEED TO ALLOCATE MEMORY FOR c2...
                          You was already told so here: "You would either need to malloc() space, or set c2 to point to, say, a char c3[10]".
                          Please try at least to understand what others are writing.

                          As others already pointed out: learn C/C++ basics.

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                          @jsulm @JonB Thank you

                          i got the success:

                          char* c= "hello world",*c2;
                          int n=5;
                          c2= NULL;

                          c2 = (char*) malloc(n*sizeof(char));
                          strncpy(c2,c,4);

                          cout<<c2; // this print the hell

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                          • Q Qt embedded developer

                            @jsulm @JonB Thank you

                            i got the success:

                            char* c= "hello world",*c2;
                            int n=5;
                            c2= NULL;

                            c2 = (char*) malloc(n*sizeof(char));
                            strncpy(c2,c,4);

                            cout<<c2; // this print the hell

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                            @Qt-embedded-developer
                            Yeah, but why in the world you need such code with strncpy() & malloc() is quite beyond me....

                            P.S.
                            Technically your code is still not right. You will only copy hell, 4 characters, into the malloc()ed area, and that does initialize its memory allocation. The 5th character onward could be anything. You are "lucky" the cout<<c2 does not print helljgas978623i5tagsd534... :)

                            strncpy(c2,c,4);  // copies "hell", 4 characters, nothing more, does not add any terminator
                            c2[4] = '\0';  // need terminating '\0' here
                            cout<<c2; // this print the hell --- FOR SURE!
                            
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                            • JonBJ JonB

                              @Qt-embedded-developer
                              Yeah, but why in the world you need such code with strncpy() & malloc() is quite beyond me....

                              P.S.
                              Technically your code is still not right. You will only copy hell, 4 characters, into the malloc()ed area, and that does initialize its memory allocation. The 5th character onward could be anything. You are "lucky" the cout<<c2 does not print helljgas978623i5tagsd534... :)

                              strncpy(c2,c,4);  // copies "hell", 4 characters, nothing more, does not add any terminator
                              c2[4] = '\0';  // need terminating '\0' here
                              cout<<c2; // this print the hell --- FOR SURE!
                              
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                              @JonB said in why strncpy not copy 4 character in c2 ?:

                              Technically your code is still not right.

                              Also: There is a memory leak because there is no matching free() for the malloc().

                              Just because it works now, does not mean it is valid code. You need to make sure for every C-style string that there is a terminating '\0'. There is no other way to know the length of the string. Every C algorithm expects the terminating '\0'. The reason why this might work right now could be that you are compiling a debug version and this will initialize the memory with zeros. Once you compile a release version your application might suddenly crash. At least it is not guaranteed to work. Another reason that it works might be because you are lucky that there is a 0 in memory. Just one little change in code might get you a different memory allocation/access pattern and the 0 is gone.

                              Since you are already using cout this means you are using C++. C++ is here to help you, not to punish you. Use std::string instead of char*. Try to avoid new and malloc because you always might forget the corresponding delete or free. std::string and std::vector (and other containers) will gladly manage memory for you. If you really need a pointer, use a smart pointer (together with make_unique or make_shared, so you don't have to use new which might accidentally leave a memory leak).

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