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  • SaintBrosephS SaintBroseph

    Yes Yes! I actually wanted an example of a C boolean using typedef keyword.

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    wrote on last edited by JKSH
    #8

    @SaintBroseph Here's an example (code) of C boolean using typedef

    #include <stdio.h>
    
    // creating custom data type bool
    typedef enum {false, true} bool_enum;
    int main() {
        bool_enum x=false; // declaration and initialization  
        if(x==true)  // conditional statements    
            printf("The value of x is true");  
        else  
            printf("The value of x is false");
      
        return 0;  
        // Output: The value of x is false
    }
    

    Source: [EDIT: Link removed --JKSH]

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      #9
      typedef bool boolean;
      int main()
      {
           boolean A = false;
           if (A == false) printf("MESSAGE")
           else  printf("MESSAGE")
      
           return 0;
      }
      

      if your problem is solved then please close the thread

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        comparing a boolean to true or false is redundant. Conditional expressions return a boolean (in C, 0 or not 0) so X or !X is adequate.

        Also, bool is a C99 thing via <stdbool.h>. Much C legacy still exists where there is no real boolean type but instead zero or not zero logic.

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        • Kent-DorfmanK Kent-Dorfman

          comparing a boolean to true or false is redundant. Conditional expressions return a boolean (in C, 0 or not 0) so X or !X is adequate.

          Also, bool is a C99 thing via <stdbool.h>. Much C legacy still exists where there is no real boolean type but instead zero or not zero logic.

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          @Kent-Dorfman said in Boolean in C:

          comparing a boolean to true or false is redundant.

          Not to mention wrong, generally speaking. 1 evaluates to true but so does -1, so comparing against true is simply the way to break it. Enums implicitly decay to the underlying type so checking against condition and !condition is the correct way to do it, even if a typedef is used.

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            sierdzio
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            I find it much easier to understand if something is false when I see if (something == false) than when I see if (!something). Especially in longer expressions it is very easy to miss a single character like ! and read the code wrong.

            (Z(:^

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            • sierdzioS sierdzio

              I find it much easier to understand if something is false when I see if (something == false) than when I see if (!something). Especially in longer expressions it is very easy to miss a single character like ! and read the code wrong.

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              #13

              @sierdzio
              I see a personal-choice-disagreement debate looming... ;-)

              I do agree it is "unfortunate" that C chose just that little ! for "not". But personally I never write == false or != false, because I would never "say" that in RL....

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              • sierdzioS sierdzio

                I find it much easier to understand if something is false when I see if (something == false) than when I see if (!something). Especially in longer expressions it is very easy to miss a single character like ! and read the code wrong.

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                @sierdzio , @JonB

                are you guys aware, that not is a valid keyword in c++ ?

                https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/keyword/not


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                • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

                  @sierdzio , @JonB

                  are you guys aware, that not is a valid keyword in c++ ?

                  https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/keyword/not

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                  @J-Hilk
                  Yup. And it's devil's-spawn! ;-) [Same for and & or. If I wanted to program in Python or Pascal I would have picked that.] I would never use that, as "nobody" (most people) else uses it or knows about it, so I would regard it as an anti-pattern!

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                  • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

                    @sierdzio , @JonB

                    are you guys aware, that not is a valid keyword in c++ ?

                    https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/keyword/not

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                    @J-Hilk said in Boolean in C:

                    @sierdzio , @JonB

                    are you guys aware, that not is a valid keyword in c++ ?

                    https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/keyword/not

                    Yes but not in all compilers :-( MSVC does not recognize it.

                    (Z(:^

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                    • sierdzioS sierdzio

                      @J-Hilk said in Boolean in C:

                      @sierdzio , @JonB

                      are you guys aware, that not is a valid keyword in c++ ?

                      https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/keyword/not

                      Yes but not in all compilers :-( MSVC does not recognize it.

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                      @sierdzio
                      Good, but are you sure? Since it is valid since C99, I would have thought that MSVC would accept those?

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                      • JonBJ JonB

                        @sierdzio
                        Good, but are you sure? Since it is valid since C99, I would have thought that MSVC would accept those?

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                        @JonB said in Boolean in C:

                        @sierdzio
                        Good, but are you sure? Since it is valid since C99, I would have thought that MSVC would accept those?

                        Last time I tried was last year. Clang, GCC all are 100% fine with it, MSVC was throwing errors.

                        I now see it's supposed to be defined in some iso646.h header, I never included it, perhaps that's the reason.

                        (Z(:^

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                        • sierdzioS sierdzio

                          @J-Hilk said in Boolean in C:

                          @sierdzio , @JonB

                          are you guys aware, that not is a valid keyword in c++ ?

                          https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/keyword/not

                          Yes but not in all compilers :-( MSVC does not recognize it.

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                          @sierdzio said in Boolean in C:

                          Yes but not in all compilers :-( MSVC does not recognize it.

                          VS been nonconforming! 😱 Color me surprised 😉


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                          • sierdzioS sierdzio

                            @JonB said in Boolean in C:

                            @sierdzio
                            Good, but are you sure? Since it is valid since C99, I would have thought that MSVC would accept those?

                            Last time I tried was last year. Clang, GCC all are 100% fine with it, MSVC was throwing errors.

                            I now see it's supposed to be defined in some iso646.h header, I never included it, perhaps that's the reason.

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                            @sierdzio
                            If one has to include a header file for them, makes me wonder if they are not "part of the language", just should be available if you include the header. Are they just #defines in that file??

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                            • JonBJ JonB

                              @sierdzio
                              If one has to include a header file for them, makes me wonder if they are not "part of the language", just should be available if you include the header. Are they just #defines in that file??

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                              @JonB said in Boolean in C:

                              @sierdzio
                              If one has to include a header file for them, makes me wonder if they are not "part of the language", just should be available if you include the header. Are they just #defines in that file??

                              yup :D

                              #define and    &&
                              #define and_eq &=
                              #define bitand &
                              #define bitor  |
                              #define compl  ~
                              #define not    !
                              #define not_eq !=
                              #define or     ||
                              #define or_eq  |=
                              #define xor    ^
                              #define xor_eq ^=
                              

                              They are not actual C++ language reserved keywords.

                              (Z(:^

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                              • sierdzioS sierdzio

                                @JonB said in Boolean in C:

                                @sierdzio
                                If one has to include a header file for them, makes me wonder if they are not "part of the language", just should be available if you include the header. Are they just #defines in that file??

                                yup :D

                                #define and    &&
                                #define and_eq &=
                                #define bitand &
                                #define bitor  |
                                #define compl  ~
                                #define not    !
                                #define not_eq !=
                                #define or     ||
                                #define or_eq  |=
                                #define xor    ^
                                #define xor_eq ^=
                                

                                They are not actual C++ language reserved keywords.

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                                @sierdzio
                                Hmmmm.... So does gcc have these in some header file, or does their C++ actually have them as reserved? It does have an iso646.h file, with the #defines, yet you said they worked for you in gcc without you explicitly including that? Does it include it automatically or from something else?

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                                • JonBJ JonB

                                  @sierdzio
                                  Hmmmm.... So does gcc have these in some header file, or does their C++ actually have them as reserved? It does have an iso646.h file, with the #defines, yet you said they worked for you in gcc without you explicitly including that? Does it include it automatically or from something else?

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                                  @JonB said in Boolean in C:

                                  worked for you in gcc without you explicitly including that? Does it include it automatically or from something else

                                  This header was originally in the C standard library as <iso646.h>.
                                  Compatibility header, in C defines alternative operator representations which are keywords in C++.
                                  This means that in a conforming implementation, including this header has no effect.
                                  

                                  gcc has mostly a conforming implementation, at least in this regard


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                                  • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

                                    @JonB said in Boolean in C:

                                    worked for you in gcc without you explicitly including that? Does it include it automatically or from something else

                                    This header was originally in the C standard library as <iso646.h>.
                                    Compatibility header, in C defines alternative operator representations which are keywords in C++.
                                    This means that in a conforming implementation, including this header has no effect.
                                    

                                    gcc has mostly a conforming implementation, at least in this regard

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                                    @J-Hilk said in Boolean in C:

                                    This header was originally in the C standard library as <iso646.h>.

                                    So what file is this in, which you say is included automatically?

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                                    • JonBJ JonB

                                      @J-Hilk said in Boolean in C:

                                      This header was originally in the C standard library as <iso646.h>.

                                      So what file is this in, which you say is included automatically?

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                                      @JonB said in Boolean in C:

                                      which you say is included automatically?

                                      My understanding is that it is NOT included automatically in conforming C++ implementations because those understand these words as keywords and don't need this header file (which is only there for compatibility reasons).

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                                      • JonBJ JonB

                                        @J-Hilk said in Boolean in C:

                                        This header was originally in the C standard library as <iso646.h>.

                                        So what file is this in, which you say is included automatically?

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                                        @JonB I'm talking about the iso646.h @sierdzio mentioned

                                        https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/header/ciso646

                                        Probably the reason why MSVC doesn't have those as keywords but requires this header is, IIRC, that it doesn't have/use a dedicated c compiler for c headers and it would break legacy stuff if those were used as keywords


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                                        • jsulmJ jsulm

                                          @JonB said in Boolean in C:

                                          which you say is included automatically?

                                          My understanding is that it is NOT included automatically in conforming C++ implementations because those understand these words as keywords and don't need this header file (which is only there for compatibility reasons).

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                                          @jsulm
                                          Mine too. But I quote from @sierdzio above:

                                          Last time I tried was last year. Clang, GCC all are 100% fine with it, MSVC was throwing errors.

                                          I now see it's supposed to be defined in some iso646.h header, I never included it, perhaps that's the reason.

                                          My question is (should be) aimed at him: he says it worked automatically in GCC/Clang (but not MSVC) with no #include from him, that's what I'm trying to understand.

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