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  • MegamouseM Offline
    MegamouseM Offline
    Megamouse
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Hi everyone,

    I've been noticing many complaints regarding Qt installation in the past few days.

    Lately you have to be logged in in order to install Qt.
    Even with the "Offline" installer.

    You can only cancel or click next, but next is deactivated until you log in.

    This is really weird and disencourages many people I know to use or update Qt.

    Is this a bug?
    Or can anyone explain this ominous decision?

    Best regards,
    Megamouse

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    • MegamouseM Megamouse

      Hi everyone,

      I've been noticing many complaints regarding Qt installation in the past few days.

      Lately you have to be logged in in order to install Qt.
      Even with the "Offline" installer.

      You can only cancel or click next, but next is deactivated until you log in.

      This is really weird and disencourages many people I know to use or update Qt.

      Is this a bug?
      Or can anyone explain this ominous decision?

      Best regards,
      Megamouse

      aha_1980A Offline
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      aha_1980
      Lifetime Qt Champion
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @Megamouse hi,

      No, it's no bug: https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-offering-changes-2020

      We are as concerned of this as you are, but please contact The Qt Company directly. This is a user forum, we cannot undo this decision.

      Regards

      Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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      • MegamouseM Offline
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        Megamouse
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Heh, it seems they did a similar bad thing in the past and reversed it afterwards:
        "Based on all these comments and discussions with our partners we realize that this was not our finest moment. Preventing the growth and usage of Qt in the open source community is not what we want to happen"

        https://web.archive.org/web/20200127170008/https://www.qt.io/blog/2015/05/06/changing-qt-account-to-be-optional-in-the-online-installer

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        • MegamouseM Megamouse

          Heh, it seems they did a similar bad thing in the past and reversed it afterwards:
          "Based on all these comments and discussions with our partners we realize that this was not our finest moment. Preventing the growth and usage of Qt in the open source community is not what we want to happen"

          https://web.archive.org/web/20200127170008/https://www.qt.io/blog/2015/05/06/changing-qt-account-to-be-optional-in-the-online-installer

          aha_1980A Offline
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          aha_1980
          Lifetime Qt Champion
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          HI @Megamouse,

          yeah, it seems they didn't learn from history.

          But it shows, if pressure from the community is strong enough, bad decisions can still be reverted.

          Regards

          Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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          • mrjjM Offline
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            mrjj
            Lifetime Qt Champion
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @aha_1980 said in Login required for installation:

            bad decisions can still be reverted.

            Well sometimes its too late. Damage is done and it's hard to recover from.

            How can the offline installer ask for login?
            If there is no net how can it then validate user/pwd i do wonder.

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            • mrjjM mrjj

              @aha_1980 said in Login required for installation:

              bad decisions can still be reverted.

              Well sometimes its too late. Damage is done and it's hard to recover from.

              How can the offline installer ask for login?
              If there is no net how can it then validate user/pwd i do wonder.

              aha_1980A Offline
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              aha_1980
              Lifetime Qt Champion
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Hi @mrjj,

              How can the offline installer ask for login?
              If there is no net how can it then validate user/pwd i do wonder.

              Correct. But as you know, there will be no offline installer download for open source users in the future - I guess they will hide it behind a paywall.

              Very sad indeed.

              Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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              • M Offline
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                Mercurus
                wrote on last edited by Mercurus
                #7

                @aha_1980

                We are as concerned of this as you are, but please contact The Qt Company directly.

                I would love to - but how? I won't use the eMail address from my company, as it is no business thing to tell them what I feel about this. The possibilities to contact them are mostly restricted to business users with business eMail addresses. Using my newly created account to drop a comment at that annoying post (https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-offering-changes-2020) didn't work. They don't want any feedback.

                After more than 10 years of professional Qt development it seems that I need to look for other platforms. I'll find something - no one is replaceable. If they loose their students and private developers they'll die.

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                • V Offline
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                  Vort
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Megamouse said in Login required for installation:

                  Lately you have to be logged in in order to install Qt.
                  Even with the "Offline" installer.
                  You can only cancel or click next, but next is deactivated until you log in.

                  For it to be perfectly offline, you can set default proxy settings to 0.0.0.0:123 (in Internet Explorer settings for Windows platform). Then Skip button will appear.

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                  • Q Offline
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                    qt_skier
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Hi, I can confirm the proxy setting does work. But then you are stuck with "No suitable kits found."

                    image.png

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                    • Q Offline
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                      qt_skier
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Build from source. Manually add qmake.exe path to Qt Versions in Preferences:Kits.

                      f4e70df4-bfcc-4da9-8eff-6a39fa758917-image.png

                      Enjoy.

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