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  • aha_1980A aha_1980

    Hi @Mozi,

    debug_and_release is only set on Windows, so no need for a scope.

    And you need to make sure to use shadow-building if you disable that! The reason this variable is set by default is that on Windows it's impossible to mix debug and release objects.

    If that is ok for you, you can savely disable that variable (like I do), as it makes the whole handling more easy.

    Regards

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    Hi @aha_1980 ,
    Thanks for your reply.
    I noticed that the Shadow build feature is enabled by default, so I can remove debug_and_release safely.
    https://doc.qt.io/qtcreator/creator-build-settings.html#qmake-build-configuration

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      • aha_1980A aha_1980

        Hi @Mozi,

        debug_and_release is only set on Windows, so no need for a scope.

        And you need to make sure to use shadow-building if you disable that! The reason this variable is set by default is that on Windows it's impossible to mix debug and release objects.

        If that is ok for you, you can savely disable that variable (like I do), as it makes the whole handling more easy.

        Regards

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        #17

        And, @aha_1980 ,

        on Windows it's impossible to mix debug and release objects.

        I cannot get the point, could you please explain a little more?
        Thanks.

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          And, @aha_1980 ,

          on Windows it's impossible to mix debug and release objects.

          I cannot get the point, could you please explain a little more?
          Thanks.

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          aha_1980
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          @Mozi The MSVC compiler uses different runtime libs for debug and release builds. Mixing them, e.g. using a debug DLL with a release program may crash.

          Things are different for the MinGW compiler though, which is the reason Qt 5.14 is compiled without debug_and_release on this platform.

          Regards

          Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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            Hi @aha_1980 .
            There are some new problems but it may be off-topic. Thanks for your previous reply.

            When debug_and_release was removed, the flag build_pass was removed too. And I discovered that build_pass will affect the windeployqt target's behavior. Here is a code snippet of windeployqt.prf from Qt 5.14.1.

            # Extra target for running windeployqt
            qtPrepareTool(QMAKE_WINDEPLOYQT, windeployqt)
            build_pass {
                #...
                windeployqt.target = windeployqt
                windeployqt.commands = $$QMAKE_WINDEPLOYQT $$WINDEPLOYQT_OPTIONS -list target $$WINDEPLOYQT_TARGET > $$WINDEPLOYQT_OUTPUT
                
                windeployqt_clean.commands = if exist $$WINDEPLOYQT_OUTPUT for /f %i in ($$WINDEPLOYQT_OUTPUT) do $$QMAKE_DEL_FILE %~fi && $$QMAKE_DEL_DIR %~pi
                #...
            } else {
                windeployqt.CONFIG += recursive
                windeployqt_clean.CONFIG += recursive
            }
            QMAKE_EXTRA_TARGETS += windeployqt windeployqt_clean
            

            The problem, makes me confused, is the relationship between the CONFIGs mentioned above. If there is no debug_and_release flag, windeployqt will do nothing. I know I can add build_pass to CONFIG manually, but... What's the original purpose of this design?

            Moreover, I found that if I use default CONFIG (contains debug_and_release and debug_and_release_target) with windeployqt, make windeployqt will complain about no release target exists (under debug mode) or no debug target exists (under release mode), and the process will stop. Is this by design? And what's the reason?

            Thanks!
            Regards

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              Hi @aha_1980 .
              There are some new problems but it may be off-topic. Thanks for your previous reply.

              When debug_and_release was removed, the flag build_pass was removed too. And I discovered that build_pass will affect the windeployqt target's behavior. Here is a code snippet of windeployqt.prf from Qt 5.14.1.

              # Extra target for running windeployqt
              qtPrepareTool(QMAKE_WINDEPLOYQT, windeployqt)
              build_pass {
                  #...
                  windeployqt.target = windeployqt
                  windeployqt.commands = $$QMAKE_WINDEPLOYQT $$WINDEPLOYQT_OPTIONS -list target $$WINDEPLOYQT_TARGET > $$WINDEPLOYQT_OUTPUT
                  
                  windeployqt_clean.commands = if exist $$WINDEPLOYQT_OUTPUT for /f %i in ($$WINDEPLOYQT_OUTPUT) do $$QMAKE_DEL_FILE %~fi && $$QMAKE_DEL_DIR %~pi
                  #...
              } else {
                  windeployqt.CONFIG += recursive
                  windeployqt_clean.CONFIG += recursive
              }
              QMAKE_EXTRA_TARGETS += windeployqt windeployqt_clean
              

              The problem, makes me confused, is the relationship between the CONFIGs mentioned above. If there is no debug_and_release flag, windeployqt will do nothing. I know I can add build_pass to CONFIG manually, but... What's the original purpose of this design?

              Moreover, I found that if I use default CONFIG (contains debug_and_release and debug_and_release_target) with windeployqt, make windeployqt will complain about no release target exists (under debug mode) or no debug target exists (under release mode), and the process will stop. Is this by design? And what's the reason?

              Thanks!
              Regards

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              aha_1980
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              Hi @Mozi,

              for which compiler is that? MSVC or MinGW?

              Anyway, I can't answer these questions, I'm not that deep in qmake. You might want to ask these questions on the Qt Interest mailing list, where more developers might be able to help you.

              Regards

              Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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              • aha_1980A aha_1980

                Hi @Mozi,

                for which compiler is that? MSVC or MinGW?

                Anyway, I can't answer these questions, I'm not that deep in qmake. You might want to ask these questions on the Qt Interest mailing list, where more developers might be able to help you.

                Regards

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                wrote on last edited by Mozi
                #21

                Hi @aha_1980 .
                I'm using MSVC2017. And thanks for your suggestion :-)

                Regards

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                • M Mozi

                  Hi @aha_1980 .
                  There are some new problems but it may be off-topic. Thanks for your previous reply.

                  When debug_and_release was removed, the flag build_pass was removed too. And I discovered that build_pass will affect the windeployqt target's behavior. Here is a code snippet of windeployqt.prf from Qt 5.14.1.

                  # Extra target for running windeployqt
                  qtPrepareTool(QMAKE_WINDEPLOYQT, windeployqt)
                  build_pass {
                      #...
                      windeployqt.target = windeployqt
                      windeployqt.commands = $$QMAKE_WINDEPLOYQT $$WINDEPLOYQT_OPTIONS -list target $$WINDEPLOYQT_TARGET > $$WINDEPLOYQT_OUTPUT
                      
                      windeployqt_clean.commands = if exist $$WINDEPLOYQT_OUTPUT for /f %i in ($$WINDEPLOYQT_OUTPUT) do $$QMAKE_DEL_FILE %~fi && $$QMAKE_DEL_DIR %~pi
                      #...
                  } else {
                      windeployqt.CONFIG += recursive
                      windeployqt_clean.CONFIG += recursive
                  }
                  QMAKE_EXTRA_TARGETS += windeployqt windeployqt_clean
                  

                  The problem, makes me confused, is the relationship between the CONFIGs mentioned above. If there is no debug_and_release flag, windeployqt will do nothing. I know I can add build_pass to CONFIG manually, but... What's the original purpose of this design?

                  Moreover, I found that if I use default CONFIG (contains debug_and_release and debug_and_release_target) with windeployqt, make windeployqt will complain about no release target exists (under debug mode) or no debug target exists (under release mode), and the process will stop. Is this by design? And what's the reason?

                  Thanks!
                  Regards

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #22

                  The new discovery record:
                  If I add build_pass, Qt Creator will complain about the Makefile after qmake:

                  Could not parse Makefile. The build in \path\to\the\build will be overwritten.
                  

                  Well, I don't know if it's harmful to manually add this argument by the developer.
                  It's not well-documented...

                  The only build_pass phrase in the page (https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qmake-variable-reference.html):

                  During the latter passes, **build_pass** and the respective debug or release option is appended to CONFIG. This makes it possible to perform build-specific tasks. For example:
                  
                  build_pass:CONFIG(debug, debug|release) {
                      unix: TARGET = $$join(TARGET,,,_debug)
                      else: TARGET = $$join(TARGET,,,d)
                  }
                  
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                  • M Mozi

                    @sayezz @xenotrax
                    Hi! If you are using Windows, please see this: c++ - Qt Creator creates both a debug and a release folder inside the designated debug folder - Stack Overflow

                    CONFIG -= debug_and_release debug_and_release_target
                    

                    Putting this line into the .pro file solves my problem.

                    You can add a test about the platform to confirm that only Qt (qmake) on Windows will change this configuration, like this:

                    win32 {
                        message($$CONFIG)
                        CONFIG -= debug_and_release debug_and_release_target
                        message($$CONFIG)
                    }
                    

                    edit on 2/8/2020:

                    Add CONFIG -= debug_and_release is enough.

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                    wrote on last edited by Mozi
                    #23

                    Ummm, I think we should NOT remove the debug_and_release and debug_and_release_target flags, whether we need multiple build configurations or not.


                    debug_and_release & Shadow build

                    In VS (VC++), the output folders (Debug and Release) are in the same directory as the source file (The root of the source folder).
                    In Qt, if the debug_and_release flag exists, the structure of the output folder is very similar to VS.

                    /
                    +---project.pro
                    +---main.cpp
                    +---debug
                    |       *.obj
                    |       moc_*.cpp
                    |       target.exe
                    |
                    +---release
                            *.obj
                            moc_*.cpp
                            target.exe
                    

                    Shadow build wants to make the source tree clean and place all generated files in the build directory. For macOS and Linux, it works well. However, for Windows, these files will be placed in nested folders (extra Debug and Release folders) because of the debug_and_release flag. I know the structure looks weird, but I think we should keep it as it is and avoid potential impacts (for example, #19 of this thread).

                    Ref:

                    • https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35999940/qt-after-specifying-output-directory-it-still-create-debug-and-release-folders-i#answer-36000284
                    Term Meaning
                    Shadow build Shadow building means building a project in a separate directory, the build directory. The build directory is different from the source directory. One of the benefits of shadow building is that it keeps your source directory clean, which makes it faster to switch between build configurations. Therefore, shadow building is the best practice if you need many build configurations for a single set of source files.

                    from: https://doc.qt.io/qtcreator/creator-glossary.html#glossary-shadow-build


                    debug_and_release_target

                    The difference between the Makefile.Release file with (red) and without (green) the debug_and_release_target flag:

                    ...
                    - DESTDIR        = release\ #avoid trailing-slash linebreak
                    + DESTDIR        =  #avoid trailing-slash linebreak
                    - DESTDIR_TARGET = release\project.exe
                    + DESTDIR_TARGET = project.exe
                    ...
                    first: all
                    - all: Makefile.Release  release\project.exe
                    + all: Makefile.Release  project.exe
                    ...
                    - release\project.exe: ...
                    + project.exe: ...
                    ...
                    

                    Without debug_and_release_target, if debug_and_release is enabled, the final binary file will be generated in the folder same as Makefile.

                    Option Description
                    debug_and_release_target This option is set by default. If debug_and_release is also set, the debug and release builds end up in separate debug and release directories.

                    from: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qmake-variable-reference.html


                    Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks for your reading.

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                    • M Mozi

                      The new discovery record:
                      If I add build_pass, Qt Creator will complain about the Makefile after qmake:

                      Could not parse Makefile. The build in \path\to\the\build will be overwritten.
                      

                      Well, I don't know if it's harmful to manually add this argument by the developer.
                      It's not well-documented...

                      The only build_pass phrase in the page (https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qmake-variable-reference.html):

                      During the latter passes, **build_pass** and the respective debug or release option is appended to CONFIG. This makes it possible to perform build-specific tasks. For example:
                      
                      build_pass:CONFIG(debug, debug|release) {
                          unix: TARGET = $$join(TARGET,,,_debug)
                          else: TARGET = $$join(TARGET,,,d)
                      }
                      
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                      #24

                      Ummm, I missed this UN-document.

                      ...
                      
                      There are also several values that qmake will dynamically set in CONFIG when it is writing a makefile (not when XCode project files are being written) other than the primary Makefile - i.e. the additional subsidiary makefiles when debug_and_release and/or static_and_shared have been set:
                      
                      * build_pass — a subsidiary makefile is being written (build_pass is not set when the primary Makefile is being written).
                      * Debug and DebugBuild — when debug_and_release has been set and the makefile filename extension contains "Debug".
                      * Release and ReleaseBuild — when debug_and_release has been set and the makefile filename extension contains "Release".
                      * Static and StaticBuild — when static_and_shared has been set and the makefile filename extension contains "Static".
                      * Shared and SharedBuild — when static_and_shared has been set and the makefile filename extension contains "Shared".
                      
                      ...
                      

                      from: https://wiki.qt.io/Undocumented_QMake#Config_features

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