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What other certifications exist?

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    jorj
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    Hmm... Yes it would imply there were more exams... We'll have to wait to see what a troll says...

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      hlinaae
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      Yes, we are working on advanced level certification exams. :) You will most likely see results of this work later this year.

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        andre
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        Thanks. I guess I should start studying for another exam @ the dev days? ;-)

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          sfilippidis
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          [quote author="Hanne" date="1277300209"]Yes, we are working on advanced level certification exams. :) You will most likely see results of this work later this year.[/quote]

          Very interesting! :)

          https://www.filippidis.name/

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            VladimirMinenko
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            Hi all!

            I'm a Troll running Qt Certification.

            Hanne had already posted some notes here. Thanks!

            One of the most important aspects for us with advanced exams is to get a broad feedback from Qt users. I believe, it is even more important here than in Essentials (nevertheless, we had many folks in the review of Essentials too), since the ambition of "advanced" is totally different. We also like to avoid an impression that it is made in the way we believe is best. We like to ensure that Qt users share our views.

            If you have some suggestions or ideas about topics for advanced exams, please let me know.

            We will post first details about advanced exam some time soon.

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            Vladimir

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              troubalex
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              [quote author="Vladimir" date="1277306540"]
              If you have some suggestions or ideas about topics for advanced exams, please let me know.
              [/quote]

              Want a wiki page? ;)

              THE CAKE IS A LIE
              Web Community Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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                VladimirMinenko
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                Yep! Good point! I will make one. All those new toys we got now... Wow! ;-)

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                Vladimir

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                  ivan
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                  IMO, advanced certification shouldn't be in the form of a mere test, but a small project to implement or something like that.

                  Personally, I don't like tests - I didn't while I was a student, and now that I'm on the /other side of the fence/ I like them even less.

                  Ivan Čukić | ivan.cukic(at)kde.org | KDE e.V.
                  Qt Ambassador (from the old Nokia days)

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                    [quote author="Ivan Čukić" date="1283959165"]IMO, advanced certification shouldn't be in the form of a mere test, but a small project to implement or something like that.

                    ...[/quote]

                    Sounds interesting to me! :)

                    https://www.filippidis.name/

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                      @Ivan. A good suggestion, but also not very new. Upcoming advanced exams have a LOT more code to analyze than Essentials. There are several pros and cons if it comes to project assignments in certification. Even if we do not use them now, we have them on our list for the future.

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                        ivan
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                        Naturally, it isn't new, a lot of people (myself included) organize exams like that at the universities (and even some certifications are like that IIRC).

                        The problem with tests (IMO) is that they prefer people who learn things by heart instead of having a real understanding.

                        One example are questions like "how many reserved keywords Java has" which are quite useless (I heard the basic Java certification exam has questions like this).

                        Ivan Čukić | ivan.cukic(at)kde.org | KDE e.V.
                        Qt Ambassador (from the old Nokia days)

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                          VladimirMinenko
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                          Exactly! And this is where the difference is! We DO NOT have such questions! Moreover, we spent dedicated time to review Essentials and remove even so called recall questions as far as it makes sense. We now are developing questions for adv exams with a specially written style guide which has several other sophisticated rules and requirements. Around 70% of question will ask you either to analyze a code segment and make a statement about it, or complete a code sample.

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                            ivan
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                            That's nice to know. Maybe I will change my mind about tests and decide to enter the exam at the next akademy (if you're going to hold them like this year) :)

                            Ivan Čukić | ivan.cukic(at)kde.org | KDE e.V.
                            Qt Ambassador (from the old Nokia days)

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                              [quote author="Vladimir" date="1283966631"]Exactly! And this is where the difference is! We DO NOT have such questions! Moreover, we spent dedicated time to review Essentials and remove even so called recall questions as far as it makes sense. We now are developing questions for adv exams with a specially written style guide which has several other sophisticated rules and requirements. Around 70% of question will ask you either to analyze a code segment and make a statement about it, or complete a code sample.[/quote]

                              Vladimir, when advanced examination program will be started?

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                                Well, I just took the advanced tests (in beta) last week at the Dev Days in München. Vladimir was right, a lot of the questions were about making statements on a piece of code. That was better than what I remember of the Essentials exam last year. Still, there were a few questions that required knowing something by heart that I thought was something that you'd normally just quickly look up in the docs. I can not be more specific on this public forum (you have to sign an NDA on the contents of the exam). Still, this happened less in the advanced exams than in the essentials one, and I don't think it is much of an issue if you have sufficient exprience with Qt: you'll make it anyway is my idea.

                                P.S. Turns out I was right before when I suggested I should start studying for this years dev days :-)

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