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    andre
    wrote on 21 Jun 2010, 10:26 last edited by
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    Hi,

    Last year on the Qt dev days, I took the basic Qt Essentials exam. The program of exams was supposed to grow bigger later on, I understood at that moment. However, so far, I can not find anything more. Is there some information available on other exams, and details on the curriculum for those?

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      sfilippidis
      wrote on 21 Jun 2010, 10:29 last edited by
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      Perhaps the information you seek for is available at:

      "http://qt.nokia.com/services-partners/developer/learning/certification":http://qt.nokia.com/services-partners/developer/learning/certification

      https://www.filippidis.name/

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        andre
        wrote on 21 Jun 2010, 11:10 last edited by
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        On that place, all I can find are references to the Essentials exam. The question was: what comes after that one?

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          sfilippidis
          wrote on 21 Jun 2010, 11:31 last edited by
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          You should wait for an answer from a TROLL, but since the link above does not provide additional info, I doubt that there is anything that "comes after that one".

          https://www.filippidis.name/

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            jorj
            wrote on 22 Jun 2010, 15:47 last edited by
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            Can't you become a Qt Certified Developer... Or is that a different route?

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              andre
              wrote on 22 Jun 2010, 15:50 last edited by
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              I am already a Certified Dev (logo thingy does not work properly yet...)
              However, AFAIK, there were supposed to be multiple exams. The first one is called "Essentials". That also suggests that there are others that are less essestial (more advanced, I'd imagine). I'd like to get better qualified :-)

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                jorj
                wrote on 22 Jun 2010, 15:53 last edited by
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                Hmm... Yes it would imply there were more exams... We'll have to wait to see what a troll says...

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                  hlinaae
                  wrote on 23 Jun 2010, 13:36 last edited by
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                  Yes, we are working on advanced level certification exams. :) You will most likely see results of this work later this year.

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                    andre
                    wrote on 23 Jun 2010, 13:43 last edited by
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                    Thanks. I guess I should start studying for another exam @ the dev days? ;-)

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                      sfilippidis
                      wrote on 23 Jun 2010, 13:50 last edited by
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                      [quote author="Hanne" date="1277300209"]Yes, we are working on advanced level certification exams. :) You will most likely see results of this work later this year.[/quote]

                      Very interesting! :)

                      https://www.filippidis.name/

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                        VladimirMinenko
                        wrote on 23 Jun 2010, 15:22 last edited by
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                        Hi all!

                        I'm a Troll running Qt Certification.

                        Hanne had already posted some notes here. Thanks!

                        One of the most important aspects for us with advanced exams is to get a broad feedback from Qt users. I believe, it is even more important here than in Essentials (nevertheless, we had many folks in the review of Essentials too), since the ambition of "advanced" is totally different. We also like to avoid an impression that it is made in the way we believe is best. We like to ensure that Qt users share our views.

                        If you have some suggestions or ideas about topics for advanced exams, please let me know.

                        We will post first details about advanced exam some time soon.

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                        Vladimir

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                          troubalex
                          wrote on 24 Jun 2010, 10:42 last edited by
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                          [quote author="Vladimir" date="1277306540"]
                          If you have some suggestions or ideas about topics for advanced exams, please let me know.
                          [/quote]

                          Want a wiki page? ;)

                          THE CAKE IS A LIE
                          Web Community Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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                            VladimirMinenko
                            wrote on 24 Jun 2010, 13:37 last edited by
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                            Yep! Good point! I will make one. All those new toys we got now... Wow! ;-)

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                              ivan
                              wrote on 8 Sept 2010, 15:19 last edited by
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                              IMO, advanced certification shouldn't be in the form of a mere test, but a small project to implement or something like that.

                              Personally, I don't like tests - I didn't while I was a student, and now that I'm on the /other side of the fence/ I like them even less.

                              Ivan Čukić | ivan.cukic(at)kde.org | KDE e.V.
                              Qt Ambassador (from the old Nokia days)

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                                sfilippidis
                                wrote on 8 Sept 2010, 15:59 last edited by
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                                [quote author="Ivan Čukić" date="1283959165"]IMO, advanced certification shouldn't be in the form of a mere test, but a small project to implement or something like that.

                                ...[/quote]

                                Sounds interesting to me! :)

                                https://www.filippidis.name/

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                                  VladimirMinenko
                                  wrote on 8 Sept 2010, 16:42 last edited by
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                                  @Ivan. A good suggestion, but also not very new. Upcoming advanced exams have a LOT more code to analyze than Essentials. There are several pros and cons if it comes to project assignments in certification. Even if we do not use them now, we have them on our list for the future.

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                                    ivan
                                    wrote on 8 Sept 2010, 17:12 last edited by
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                                    Naturally, it isn't new, a lot of people (myself included) organize exams like that at the universities (and even some certifications are like that IIRC).

                                    The problem with tests (IMO) is that they prefer people who learn things by heart instead of having a real understanding.

                                    One example are questions like "how many reserved keywords Java has" which are quite useless (I heard the basic Java certification exam has questions like this).

                                    Ivan Čukić | ivan.cukic(at)kde.org | KDE e.V.
                                    Qt Ambassador (from the old Nokia days)

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                                      VladimirMinenko
                                      wrote on 8 Sept 2010, 17:23 last edited by
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                                      Exactly! And this is where the difference is! We DO NOT have such questions! Moreover, we spent dedicated time to review Essentials and remove even so called recall questions as far as it makes sense. We now are developing questions for adv exams with a specially written style guide which has several other sophisticated rules and requirements. Around 70% of question will ask you either to analyze a code segment and make a statement about it, or complete a code sample.

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                                        ivan
                                        wrote on 8 Sept 2010, 17:31 last edited by
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                                        That's nice to know. Maybe I will change my mind about tests and decide to enter the exam at the next akademy (if you're going to hold them like this year) :)

                                        Ivan Čukić | ivan.cukic(at)kde.org | KDE e.V.
                                        Qt Ambassador (from the old Nokia days)

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                                          IrQX
                                          wrote on 14 Sept 2010, 23:36 last edited by
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                                          [quote author="Vladimir" date="1283966631"]Exactly! And this is where the difference is! We DO NOT have such questions! Moreover, we spent dedicated time to review Essentials and remove even so called recall questions as far as it makes sense. We now are developing questions for adv exams with a specially written style guide which has several other sophisticated rules and requirements. Around 70% of question will ask you either to analyze a code segment and make a statement about it, or complete a code sample.[/quote]

                                          Vladimir, when advanced examination program will be started?

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