The same old topic: Licensing.
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@Alexandra: In my opinion, it would be interesting if you would consider re-opening comments at
http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2009/11/30/qt-making-the-right-licensing-decision/
so that someone from Qt/Nokia's legal department could clarify additional questions that we could post there. ;)
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Stavros Filippidis, good idea. Also may be good will be to make FAQ about licensing issues. Alexandra Leisse, what do you (and other Trolls) think about it?
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[quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1276777620"]We agree. However, licensing (and law in general) unfortunately isn't easy to simplify while giving correct information...[/quote]
What about some simple use cases, specifying when and why you should use each licence... Although I suppose if it was that simple it would already exist...
A tricky topic....
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I just talked to our lawyer and she has already planned for a follow-up to mentioned "blog(Licensing blog)":http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2009/11/30/qt-making-the-right-licensing-decision/. To make it easier for her to figure out what is still unclear and would be good to address, I have started "a wiki page(Licensing wiki)":http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/LicensingQuestions.
Please, add your questions/suggestions there and we do our best to provide you with answers.
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[quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1276877146"]I just talked to our lawyer and she has already planned for a follow-up to mentioned "blog(Licensing blog)":http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2009/11/30/qt-making-the-right-licensing-decision/. To make it easier for her to figure out what is still unclear and would be good to address, I have started "a wiki page(Licensing wiki)":http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/LicensingQuestions.
Please, add your questions/suggestions there and we do our best to provide you with answers.[/quote]
I have just created this:
http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Question_Closed-source_application_scenario
But maybe I did something wrong and I do not see it at the Wiki! Could a TROLL please correct this? :)
EDIT:
I just noticed that I was supposed to EDIT the
http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/LicensingQuestions
and NOT create a new wiki-page! So ... now I dit it (correctly!)!
Could a TROLL (please!) delete the
http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Question_Closed-source_application_scenario
which I shouln't have created the first place?
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[quote author="Stavros Filippidis" date="1277156563"]
Could a TROLL (please!) delete the
http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Question_Closed-source_application_scenario
which I shouln't have created the first place?
[/quote]Done. Thanks for adding this scenario!
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[quote author="jeremy_c" date="1282830434"]When are the answers on the referenced wiki page going to be answered, or have they already and I'm just not finding them?[/quote]
Currently, Cristy - our lawyer - is working on her presentation for our Developer Days. The wiki is basis for that, among other things. It's supposed to help her understand what our users a struggling with.
After the event in San Francisco we will make her presentation available publicly.
I hope that helps.
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[quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1283252630"][quote author="jeremy_c" date="1282830434"]When are the answers on the referenced wiki page going to be answered, or have they already and I'm just not finding them?[/quote]
Currently, Cristy - our lawyer - is working on her presentation for our Developer Days. The wiki is basis for that, among other things. It's supposed to help her understand what our users a struggling with.
After the event in San Francisco we will make her presentation available publicly.
I hope that helps.[/quote]
Do we have anything new on the licencing follow-up with Cristy? :)
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[quote author="Stavros Filippidis" date="1293545620"]Do we have anything new on the licencing follow-up with Cristy? :)[/quote]
The video is available "here":http://qt.nokia.com/developer/learning/online/talks/developerdays2010/qt-in-use
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[quote author="Esdras Beleza" date="1275400201"]Hi,
I need to prepare a lecture for my colleagues about Qt Development, and one of the topics is licensing. But it's a very controversial topic, since the three Qt licenses make its licensing hard to understand. I tried to read "Qt Licensing(Qt Licensing)":http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing) a few times, but I'm still confused.
So, I'll start with a some questions:
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Can I develop and deploy closed-sourced commercial applications without buying a commercial license of Qt?
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A more specific question, since the answer may be different: can I develop and deploy closed-sourced commercial applications without buying a commercial license of Qt, distributing it with the original Qt libraries, without any changes on it?
My personal projects are free and open sourced, but I need these questions answered so I could convince (or not...) some coworkers to use Qt on their commercial projects.[/quote]
If you are preparing lecture and need the material regarding it then "Qt in Education":http://qt.nokia.com/services-partners/qt-in-education will help you.
Check this "presentation":http://www.slideshare.net/qtbynokia/presentations also.
About licensing ,I think LGPL will not make any problem for you, As obvious you can not distribute that one.
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[quote author="Volker" date="1293547101"][quote author="Stavros Filippidis" date="1293545620"]Do we have anything new on the licencing follow-up with Cristy? :)[/quote]
The video is available "here":http://qt.nokia.com/developer/learning/online/talks/developerdays2010/qt-in-use[/quote]
Thanks for the link! Very interesting video and quite enlightening. Unfortunately, I did not get the answers I was looking for the two first questions in
http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/LicensingQuestions
Maybe the comments at
http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2009/11/30/qt-making-the-right-licensing-decision/
should open again? ;)
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[quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1294056575"]I will remind her of the wiki again. Maybe we can get some answers based on the questions directly. No promises though, she's doing all she can.[/quote]
Thanks in advance Alexandra! I think that the answers two these questions are very important for non-legal-expert-qt-developers, so we will be looking forward for answers.
By the way, IMHO, Cristy is doing a great job! The video http://qt.nokia.com/developer/learning/online/talks/developerdays2010/qt-in-use/breakfast-seminar-qt-licensing-explained was very insightful. :)
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I don’t want to open new topic, and I don’t know if these are told somewhere else, so...
What about licences of Qt related stuff but not in the repository by Nokia? This particular case I have is related to Qt logo(not actually stealing image from Qt site but just using the logo), but maybe there is others, maybe mainly art in the sites.
Sorry if I’m asking something too obvious... Like, the logo is available in git repo? :)
That leads me to another question: can I count on that everything in the Qt repos are licenced under LGPL/GPL?
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For the logo: Guidelines are on the "logo download":http://qt.nokia.com/about/logos-for-download/ page
For the files in the repos: They should have a license statement on the top (some of them are from other sources and may have another license!)
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[quote author="Volker" date="1294233087"]For the logo: Guidelines are on the "logo download":http://qt.nokia.com/about/logos-for-download/ page
For the files in the repos: They should have a license statement on the top (some of them are from other sources and may have another license!)[/quote]
Pictures and format restricted files can’t really have the licence, though... Maybe in meta tag, but those are cumbersome to look at, if they even exist.