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XML vs JS in Qt. What is more "native" for Qt?

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  • B bogong

    @mrjj @JKSH and others ... Thanks for replies, but never the less ... What about topic of this thread? What is more native JSON and XML?

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    @bogong
    None of them is more native than the other.
    Both is just classes using Qt types.

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      @bogong
      None of them is more native than the other.
      Both is just classes using Qt types.

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      @mrjj Thx

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        @mrjj Thx

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        @bogong
        Just as info.
        we tested XML / JSON for our project.
        In most cases, xml is more verbose and we found json
        generally nicer to work with.
        Its easy to handwrite some json.
        xml, not so much.

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          @bogong
          Just as info.
          we tested XML / JSON for our project.
          In most cases, xml is more verbose and we found json
          generally nicer to work with.
          Its easy to handwrite some json.
          xml, not so much.

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          @mrjj For hand-writing it's mater of experience only. I've started to use XML more than 10 years ago and beside all of it huge experience in HTML/CSS. For me doesn't matter at all which is better for handwriting. BTW - Microsoft *.docx format it's ZIPed XML. And a lot of applications using XML for data exchange. But it's only historically, XML appeared earlier than JSON especially in enterprise applications.

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          • B bogong

            @mrjj For hand-writing it's mater of experience only. I've started to use XML more than 10 years ago and beside all of it huge experience in HTML/CSS. For me doesn't matter at all which is better for handwriting. BTW - Microsoft *.docx format it's ZIPed XML. And a lot of applications using XML for data exchange. But it's only historically, XML appeared earlier than JSON especially in enterprise applications.

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            @bogong
            ok. also a good xml editor helps with all the end tags.

            Btw i forgot to ask

            How much data do you plan to save ?

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            • mrjjM mrjj

              @bogong
              ok. also a good xml editor helps with all the end tags.

              Btw i forgot to ask

              How much data do you plan to save ?

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              @mrjj said in XML vs JS in Qt. What is more "native" for Qt?:

              How much data do you plan to save ?

              It's unpredictable and depend on situation. Might be 2 bite might be + 2Gb

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              • B bogong

                @mrjj said in XML vs JS in Qt. What is more "native" for Qt?:

                How much data do you plan to save ?

                It's unpredictable and depend on situation. Might be 2 bite might be + 2Gb

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                @bogong
                ok.
                please test with 2GB json/xml before deciding.
                It might not have acceptable performance for your use case.

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                • mrjjM mrjj

                  @bogong
                  ok.
                  please test with 2GB json/xml before deciding.
                  It might not have acceptable performance for your use case.

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                  @mrjj sure, I know it - this is the main reason to question about "more native".

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                  • B bogong

                    @mrjj sure, I know it - this is the main reason to question about "more native".

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                    @bogong
                    Well both will be slow with a 2GB file.
                    However, XML has also has
                    https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qxmlsimplereader.html#details
                    which is a SAX interface that reduces the memory requirements
                    compared to the XML Dom parser / json that will fully
                    populate an internal "tree" of the file.

                    Also, Qt is a framework. Not a language so all its classes are
                    the same level of "native". :)

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                    • mrjjM mrjj

                      @bogong
                      Well both will be slow with a 2GB file.
                      However, XML has also has
                      https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qxmlsimplereader.html#details
                      which is a SAX interface that reduces the memory requirements
                      compared to the XML Dom parser / json that will fully
                      populate an internal "tree" of the file.

                      Also, Qt is a framework. Not a language so all its classes are
                      the same level of "native". :)

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                      @mrjj I might be wrong in term "native". I mean what is historically more developed and used solution in Qt.

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                      • B bogong

                        @mrjj I might be wrong in term "native". I mean what is historically more developed and used solution in Qt.

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                        @bogong
                        I think they are both equal in that regards.
                        The XML is older (i think) then JSON but could not find the exact info.
                        Internally Qt uses binary / DataStreams.

                        So it seems to save to choose between json/xml based on performance and
                        memory use concerns + your personal experience with xml.

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