QStandardItem and default data role

Christian Ehrlicher

Because QStandardItemModel + QStandardItem is a convenience class and already provides access to Qt::DisplayRole and others via custom functions (setFont, setIcon, setText, setToolTip). There is no need to use QStandardItemModel::data() at all.

JonB

@Christian-Ehrlicher
Before I comment on what the problems are, did you mis-type:

There is no need to use QStandardItemModel::data() at all.

Did you mean QStandardItem:data() instead of QStandardItemModel::data()? Or what?

Christian Ehrlicher

@JonB: It's from QAbstractItemModel::data().

JonB

@Christian-Ehrlicher
I do not understand what you are talking about now. (Btw, yes, I know what is derived from what.) As I have said, there are two ways at getting at a standard model items' data:

1. standardItemModel.data(standardItemModel.index(row, col))

2. standardItemModel.item(row, col).data()

The first is going via QStandardItemModel, the second via QStandardItem. Agreed? And you would assume they both return the same result, agreed? Well, they don't, because of the default role difference.

Christian Ehrlicher

@JonB said in QStandardItem and default data role:

And you would assume they both return the same result, agreed?

No, I don't agree here.
Since QStandardItemModel is a convenience class you should also stick at the convenience way on accessing the data via the QStandardModelItem and it's functions I wrote above.

JonB

@Christian-Ehrlicher
Right then.

First of all I'm not interested in any of setFont, setIcon, setToolTip. What I am interested in is the different data which can be stored/returned via setData/data() using the two roles DisplayRole vs EditRole.

And second, it's all very well saying what one "should stick at", but I am talking about reviewing code written by someone else. When storing/retrieving data in a QStandardItemModel, that person has sometimes used QStandardItemModel::set/Data() directly and sometimes used QStandardItemModel::item(...).set/Data(). Both of those address the same QStandardItem in the model. You (I) would have thought they would set/return the same value. But they do not, because of the difference in the default roles between the two seemingly-identical approaches. So the code I'm reviewing is not right. :( Which is what I am whinging about.

Christian Ehrlicher

Yes, relying on the default value isn't that good sometimes... even in the qt module tests there were some issues with the default role which only came up after a change in the convenience QTable/Tree/ListWidget classes to publish the modified roles instead no roles (3rd argument in dataChanged())

Christian Ehrlicher

Don't know if this works in Python but I C++ I would derive from QStandardItemModel, make data() private and replace all occurrences of QStandardItemModel with the new class. Then I would get a compiler warning as soon as DerivedClass::data() is called.

JonB

@Christian-Ehrlicher

make data() private

Nope, this is Python! Everything is public. Even if it's private it's still public. Unless Qt chose to rename the data/setData() methods to __data()/__setData(). And even then they'd still be public really.

Then I would get a compiler warning as soon as DerivedClass::data() is called.

This is Python, don't make me laugh ;-) Compiler? Warning?

:)

JonB

@Christian-Ehrlicher
But here's what I don't get even if I tried to adopt what you say. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong.

All these models are heavily used by the code from QTableViews etc. The whole point is that uses the data()/setData() methods (with defaults DisplayRole/EditRole). So surely if you hide those two methods with privacy you won't be able to use your derived class from table views, no?

Apparently unlike you, I do not see the problem in QStandardItemModel::data()'s behaviour. I see the problem in the non-consistent QStandardItem::data()'s behaviour. I'm not sure whether that is getting across.

In the code, at line #10 data is being set via

standardItemModel.setData(standardItemModel.index(0, 0), foo)

Then at line #10,000 data is being read back from the same item via

bar = standardItemModel.item(0, 0).data()

I expect foo & bar to be the same value. But they are not.

Christian Ehrlicher

@JonB said in QStandardItem and default data role:

But they are not.

Correct, because you're mixing the convenience class with the underlying QAIM.

--> standardItemModel.item(0,0)->setData(foo) is what you want if you want to use QStandardItemModel::data() without a parameter.
Or, as I said before - don't rely on default parameters at all.

JonB

@Christian-Ehrlicher
No! Unless yet again we are misunderstanding each other :)

Let's be clear: foo was my data value, not a role. Then quoting from what you have just written:

standardItemModel.item(0,0)->setData(foo)

This is using QStandardItemModel::item()::setData(). QStandardItemModel::item() is a QStandardItem. QStandardItem::setData() has default parameter int role = Qt::UserRole + 1.

QStandardItemModel::data()

This is using QStandardItemModel::data() (not QStandardItem::data()), which has default parameter int role = Qt::DisplayRole.

For consistency --- and assuming you are not passing any role explicitly --- one must either stick to doing data operations via paired QStandardItemModel::set/Data(index(0, 0)) or via paired QStandardItemModel::item(0, 0)::set/Data(). Your example just broke that consistency, it's using one of each! The code I am looking at (not written by me, who now knows better) has equally broken that consistent pairing, and so is wrong. Hence I am now spending hours tracking down precisely where current code accesses data directly off QStandardItemModel vs via QStandardItemModel::item().

My original question was: to avoid just this, why [there must be a reason] does QStandardItem::set/Data() use UserRole+1, instead of DisplayRole/EditRole as the respective role defaults just like say QStandardItemModel::set/Data() does and same for other models? Then I wouldn't be crying in a bath over this....

Christian Ehrlicher

QStandardItemModel is a convenience function which should be filled with QStandardItem::data()/setData(). If you mix it with QAbstractItemView::setData() then you also should use the corresponding QAIV::data() function.