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  • JonBJ JonB

    Yeah, that looks right. But it can't really shouldn't be a Python issue.

    Although I have tried both ways, could you test your moving the addAction to after the addToolbar, and also add a second action, please?

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    ofc
    alt text

      auto b = new  QToolBar();
      b->setWindowTitle("OTHER");
      b->setOrientation(Qt::Vertical);
      addToolBar(Qt::LeftToolBarArea, b);
      b->addAction(QIcon(), "TEST");
      b->addAction(QIcon(), "TEST2");
    
    

    Qt 5.9. visual stud. compiler

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      @JNBarchan
      ofc
      alt text

        auto b = new  QToolBar();
        b->setWindowTitle("OTHER");
        b->setOrientation(Qt::Vertical);
        addToolBar(Qt::LeftToolBarArea, b);
        b->addAction(QIcon(), "TEST");
        b->addAction(QIcon(), "TEST2");
      
      

      Qt 5.9. visual stud. compiler

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      @mrjj
      Thanks. Sigh. Dunno then what my issue is.

      Also, if I make my toolbar movable, I can drag the "gripper" to the left, and it looks vertical, but when I release the mouse it "floats" back up to the top & horizontal.....

      I'll investigate more tomorrow, I guess....

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      • JonBJ JonB

        @mrjj
        Thanks. Sigh. Dunno then what my issue is.

        Also, if I make my toolbar movable, I can drag the "gripper" to the left, and it looks vertical, but when I release the mouse it "floats" back up to the top & horizontal.....

        I'll investigate more tomorrow, I guess....

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        wrote on last edited by mrjj
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        @JNBarchan
        No idea, im totally python noob.
        one thing i would check
        i give it
        LeftToolBarArea = 0x1,
        enum Orientation {
        Horizontal = 0x1,
        Vertical = 0x2
        };

        for setOrientation

        Is your value the same ?
        QtCore.Qt.Vertical

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        • mrjjM mrjj

          @JNBarchan
          No idea, im totally python noob.
          one thing i would check
          i give it
          LeftToolBarArea = 0x1,
          enum Orientation {
          Horizontal = 0x1,
          Vertical = 0x2
          };

          for setOrientation

          Is your value the same ?
          QtCore.Qt.Vertical

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          @mrjj
          Thanks. That's OK, I'm a Python/PyQt/Qt noob :) The values for the various enumerations through PyQt are correct.

          A standalone, 20-line (PyQt) program does work correctly for this. So now I start trying to chop stuff out from the 32K-odd-lines application I have inherited to see if I can get it working there. Wish me luck....

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          • JonBJ JonB

            @mrjj
            Thanks. That's OK, I'm a Python/PyQt/Qt noob :) The values for the various enumerations through PyQt are correct.

            A standalone, 20-line (PyQt) program does work correctly for this. So now I start trying to chop stuff out from the 32K-odd-lines application I have inherited to see if I can get it working there. Wish me luck....

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            @JNBarchan
            Oh, so its related to full app. Well better than in the actual pyQt.
            alt text

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            • mrjjM mrjj

              @JNBarchan
              Oh, so its related to full app. Well better than in the actual pyQt.
              alt text

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              @mrjj
              Well I didn't know it had anything to do with app context till I wrote a standalone just now. But it looks like it is....

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              • mrjjM mrjj

                @JNBarchan
                Oh, so its related to full app. Well better than in the actual pyQt.
                alt text

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                #10

                @mrjj said in Cannot seem to make toolbar be vertical:

                @JNBarchan
                Oh, so its related to full app. Well better than in the actual pyQt.

                BTW, when I get an email notification of that reply of yours it includes a very sweet "Snoopy-good-luck-image" ( :) ), but when I view the post here I see nothing. How does that work? :)

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                • JonBJ JonB

                  @mrjj said in Cannot seem to make toolbar be vertical:

                  @JNBarchan
                  Oh, so its related to full app. Well better than in the actual pyQt.

                  BTW, when I get an email notification of that reply of yours it includes a very sweet "Snoopy-good-luck-image" ( :) ), but when I view the post here I see nothing. How does that work? :)

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                  @JNBarchan

                  That sounds really odd.
                  Maybe browser blocks external images or something?
                  Its normally visible in forum too.

                  Also your reply have the image
                  as you can see here
                  http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8103/gzf3el.png

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                  • mrjjM mrjj

                    @JNBarchan

                    That sounds really odd.
                    Maybe browser blocks external images or something?
                    Its normally visible in forum too.

                    Also your reply have the image
                    as you can see here
                    http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8103/gzf3el.png

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                    @mrjj
                    Well that too is odd, because I don't see the image under default Firefox from Linux nor IE 11 from Windows.... I do see it under Chrome for Windows... I wonder what the setting is? OTOH, I do see your two "MainWindow" screenshots in all, however...

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                    • JonBJ JonB

                      @mrjj
                      Well that too is odd, because I don't see the image under default Firefox from Linux nor IE 11 from Windows.... I do see it under Chrome for Windows... I wonder what the setting is? OTOH, I do see your two "MainWindow" screenshots in all, however...

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                      @JNBarchan

                      Maybe its just with animated gifs ?
                      Do you see this ?
                      alt text

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                      • mrjjM mrjj

                        @JNBarchan

                        Maybe its just with animated gifs ?
                        Do you see this ?
                        alt text

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                        @mrjj
                        Yep! But not Snoopy. Somehow I guess it's the source of the Url...

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                        • JonBJ JonB

                          @mrjj
                          Yep! But not Snoopy. Somehow I guess it's the source of the Url...

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                          @JNBarchan
                          That would also make sense :)

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                            @mrjj
                            Well, good news, and bad news!

                            I wonder whether you would be kind enough to investigate behaviour for me? The underlying problem seems to be to do with saving & restoring main window state, and is a bit weird....

                            First, starting from scratch my Python code for vertical, left-hand side toolbar is indeed working fine, in itself, just like the C++ code. So that's good.

                            The stakeholder has now decided that the toolbar is to be setMovable(True) after all (but still setFloatable(False)).

                            At this point, I can drag & dock toolbar to all 4 sides fine. As you know, when you drag toolbar main window "expands areas" to visually show where it can be docked, and all 4 are shown.

                            We save & restore main window layout (see below). If I have dragged toolbar to either left or right vertical all is well, after re-run program and restore toolbar can still be dragged to all 4 positions.

                            However, if I drag toolbar to either top or bottom horizontal, after re-run program and restore toolbar it is not only possible to drag it to top or bottom, never to left or right, and only the top & bottom areas "expand" to allow drop.

                            The only way to then rectify this is to delete the saved layout-state .conf file externally. Then all reverts to original good behaviour.

                            IMPORTANT EDIT:
                            Skip all following stuff about save/restore, and go straight to next IMPORTANT EDIT afterward.

                            The code outline is:

                            1. Take your C++ as starting point.

                            2. On window close:

                              QSettings.setValue("main_state", self.saveState())

                            3. In constructor, after having constructed toolbar & set its options:

                               mainState = Settings.value("main_state")
                               if mainState:
                                   self.restoreState(mainState)
                              

                            That is what causes this strange behaviour. I'm wondering whether this must somehow to be to do with http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtoolbar.html#allowedAreas-prop, because it's as though it's only allowing top & bottom now [EDIT: Just verified self.toolbar.allowedAreas() == Qt::AllToolBarAreas always, both before & after any restores.]; unless it's something to do with the setOrientation not supposed to be used with QMainWindow.... [EDIT: Just removed the setOrientation completely, doesn't seem to be needed (presumably addToolBar(Qt::LeftToolBarArea) is dealing with this for main window, perhaps why they say don't use setOrientation for main window). But no difference for this problem behaviour, so you can try with or without according to me.]

                            My head hurts. If you fancy looking into this you know I'd be most grateful!

                            IMPORTANT EDIT:
                            OK, forget about all the stuff to do with saving/restoring. It's not that. Quite simply, look at the QMainWindow::addToolBar(Qt::LeftToolBarArea, toolbar);:

                            • If you use Qt::LeftToolBarArea or Qt::RightToolBarArea, you can drag & drop toolbar to all 4 sides.
                            • But if you use Qt::TopToolBarArea or Qt::BottomToolBarArea, you can never drag & drop to left or right side, only top or bottom.

                            Period. Given that it can support all 4 drag sides after starting at left or right, yet cannot support drag to left or right if starting at top or bottom, is this a bug??

                            [EDIT: Oh dear, this only appears to be the behaviour in my app, not in standalone test, I'm investigating further...]

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                            • JonBJ JonB

                              @mrjj
                              Well, good news, and bad news!

                              I wonder whether you would be kind enough to investigate behaviour for me? The underlying problem seems to be to do with saving & restoring main window state, and is a bit weird....

                              First, starting from scratch my Python code for vertical, left-hand side toolbar is indeed working fine, in itself, just like the C++ code. So that's good.

                              The stakeholder has now decided that the toolbar is to be setMovable(True) after all (but still setFloatable(False)).

                              At this point, I can drag & dock toolbar to all 4 sides fine. As you know, when you drag toolbar main window "expands areas" to visually show where it can be docked, and all 4 are shown.

                              We save & restore main window layout (see below). If I have dragged toolbar to either left or right vertical all is well, after re-run program and restore toolbar can still be dragged to all 4 positions.

                              However, if I drag toolbar to either top or bottom horizontal, after re-run program and restore toolbar it is not only possible to drag it to top or bottom, never to left or right, and only the top & bottom areas "expand" to allow drop.

                              The only way to then rectify this is to delete the saved layout-state .conf file externally. Then all reverts to original good behaviour.

                              IMPORTANT EDIT:
                              Skip all following stuff about save/restore, and go straight to next IMPORTANT EDIT afterward.

                              The code outline is:

                              1. Take your C++ as starting point.

                              2. On window close:

                                QSettings.setValue("main_state", self.saveState())

                              3. In constructor, after having constructed toolbar & set its options:

                                 mainState = Settings.value("main_state")
                                 if mainState:
                                     self.restoreState(mainState)
                                

                              That is what causes this strange behaviour. I'm wondering whether this must somehow to be to do with http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtoolbar.html#allowedAreas-prop, because it's as though it's only allowing top & bottom now [EDIT: Just verified self.toolbar.allowedAreas() == Qt::AllToolBarAreas always, both before & after any restores.]; unless it's something to do with the setOrientation not supposed to be used with QMainWindow.... [EDIT: Just removed the setOrientation completely, doesn't seem to be needed (presumably addToolBar(Qt::LeftToolBarArea) is dealing with this for main window, perhaps why they say don't use setOrientation for main window). But no difference for this problem behaviour, so you can try with or without according to me.]

                              My head hurts. If you fancy looking into this you know I'd be most grateful!

                              IMPORTANT EDIT:
                              OK, forget about all the stuff to do with saving/restoring. It's not that. Quite simply, look at the QMainWindow::addToolBar(Qt::LeftToolBarArea, toolbar);:

                              • If you use Qt::LeftToolBarArea or Qt::RightToolBarArea, you can drag & drop toolbar to all 4 sides.
                              • But if you use Qt::TopToolBarArea or Qt::BottomToolBarArea, you can never drag & drop to left or right side, only top or bottom.

                              Period. Given that it can support all 4 drag sides after starting at left or right, yet cannot support drag to left or right if starting at top or bottom, is this a bug??

                              [EDIT: Oh dear, this only appears to be the behaviour in my app, not in standalone test, I'm investigating further...]

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                              @JNBarchan

                              Will do, but first this evening :)

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                                @JNBarchan

                                Will do, but first this evening :)

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                                @mrjj
                                Cheers, I'll buy you a drink ;)
                                I did begin to wonder whether you do anything other than answer posts here during working hours... ;-)

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                                  @mrjj
                                  Cheers, I'll buy you a drink ;)
                                  I did begin to wonder whether you do anything other than answer posts here during working hours... ;-)

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                                  oh, i do. ;)
                                  Its just my old pc (2011) is getting tired so with new c++14 and 64bit virtual machines,
                                  it takes a bit to compile and then learning more Qt is always nice.

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                                    @JNBarchan
                                    oh, i do. ;)
                                    Its just my old pc (2011) is getting tired so with new c++14 and 64bit virtual machines,
                                    it takes a bit to compile and then learning more Qt is always nice.

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                                    @mrjj
                                    If & when you have time to look at my latest edit to my question, you'll see we can skip anything to do with save/restore. The problem seems to be quite simple now: you cannot reposition a toolbar to left/right if it starts at top/bottom, but you can the other way round.....??

                                    [EDIT: Oh dear, oh dear, this is not a problem in the standalone test, only in my actual app. More investigating... :( Any idea at all what might cause this behaviour for me to look at?]

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                                      @mrjj
                                      If & when you have time to look at my latest edit to my question, you'll see we can skip anything to do with save/restore. The problem seems to be quite simple now: you cannot reposition a toolbar to left/right if it starts at top/bottom, but you can the other way round.....??

                                      [EDIT: Oh dear, oh dear, this is not a problem in the standalone test, only in my actual app. More investigating... :( Any idea at all what might cause this behaviour for me to look at?]

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                                      @JNBarchan
                                      Sadly no. Normally all areas are allowed.

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                                        @JNBarchan
                                        Sadly no. Normally all areas are allowed.

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                                        @mrjj
                                        OK, once & for all, I think I understand what the situation is now(!)

                                        1. You start with a horizontal toolbar on the main window.
                                        2. You have other layout/controls on the page, which take up a lot of horizontal layout. This effectively gives the page a minimum width, below which you cannot resize the window.
                                        3. Your window width is a bit more than the minimum, but not a lot wider.
                                        4. You attempt to drag the toolbar from horizontal at top to vertical at side.

                                        The problem here is that there is not enough space across the width of the window to allow the vertical "docking" area for the toolbar to appear, because that would shrink the window's horizontal layout content below the minimum it needs. So you cannot drag & drop the toolbar to left or right.

                                        In some shape or form, if you start out with the toolbar vertical it displays it there, but once it has been dragged to the top horizontal, it no longer lets you revert to vertical, which didn't really fit.

                                        I can see the problem. Of course I was not aware I was in this situation while I developed/tested. It's a nasty one for my end users, because once dragged horizontal it's not clear why they find it impossible to revert to vertical. But at least I know now, and they can be told to widen the window before attempting to revert to vertical toolbar.

                                        Thanks for all your help!

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                                          @mrjj
                                          OK, once & for all, I think I understand what the situation is now(!)

                                          1. You start with a horizontal toolbar on the main window.
                                          2. You have other layout/controls on the page, which take up a lot of horizontal layout. This effectively gives the page a minimum width, below which you cannot resize the window.
                                          3. Your window width is a bit more than the minimum, but not a lot wider.
                                          4. You attempt to drag the toolbar from horizontal at top to vertical at side.

                                          The problem here is that there is not enough space across the width of the window to allow the vertical "docking" area for the toolbar to appear, because that would shrink the window's horizontal layout content below the minimum it needs. So you cannot drag & drop the toolbar to left or right.

                                          In some shape or form, if you start out with the toolbar vertical it displays it there, but once it has been dragged to the top horizontal, it no longer lets you revert to vertical, which didn't really fit.

                                          I can see the problem. Of course I was not aware I was in this situation while I developed/tested. It's a nasty one for my end users, because once dragged horizontal it's not clear why they find it impossible to revert to vertical. But at least I know now, and they can be told to widen the window before attempting to revert to vertical toolbar.

                                          Thanks for all your help!

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                                          @JNBarchan
                                          Oh that was a tricky one.
                                          Good debugging !
                                          So due to Min. values, once removed/dragged,
                                          you cannot drag into same place as the layout prevents it ?
                                          I assumed mainwindow would sort of reserve some space for it but that is clearly not the case
                                          it seems.

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