Future of Qt
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[quote author="utcenter" date="1342556202"]Haven't looked at git, but on sourceforge the last update is dated 18 February, which is exactly 5 months ago.
bq. the situation would improve manifold if a company backed the port
I have a feeling if Trolltech remained independent Android would be officially supported today.[/quote]
exactly. Had trolltech remained independant there would have been official support for both ios and android
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It takes time to make a language well-known in computer science world. We , Qt Programmers, will help Nokia on this point. We should not leave Nokia alone, we should support and teach Qt as much as we can!
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[quote author="Andre" date="1342601746"]Or TT would have been bust. Or...
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Was TT in mid-peril before the acquisitions? Flexible licensing for indie developers and unrestricted platform support would have made miracles for the popularity of Qt. There aren't many cross platform frameworks, sure, as of recently we got more attention in the JS/HTML area, but back in those days, Qt would have been without competition, and there is STILL not a single complete native cross platform in existence.
I don't think community is in any position to take Qt anywhere as long as it is property of Nokia, the BIG UNKNOWN is where Nokia is willing to take Qt, a question left unanswered despite the many questions and concerns from the community. This silence and uncertainty is of no use to anyone...
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[quote author="Andre" date="1342601746"]Or TT would have been bust. Or...[/quote]
Was TT in mid-peril before the acquisitions? Flexible licensing for indie developers and unrestricted platform support would have made miracles for the popularity of Qt. There aren't many cross platform frameworks, sure, as of recently we got more attention in the JS/HTML area, but back in those days, Qt would have been without competition, and there is STILL not a single complete native cross platform in existence.
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The point (which you cut away) was: Does it matter? Things are what they are. TrollTech got taken over by Nokia, like it or not. Now deal with it.[quote]I don't think community is in any position to take Qt anywhere as long as it is property of Nokia, the BIG UNKNOWN is where Nokia is willing to take Qt, a question left unanswered despite the many questions and concerns from the community. This silence and uncertainty is of no use to anyone...[/quote]
Lucky for all of us, others seem to think differently: KDAB, ICS, Froglogic, Digia and others are still committed to Qt, and are acting on that. -
I didn't say it is impossible to commit - what I said is it is impossible to take i.e. move Qt, surely contributors are free to contribute, but not set a direction for the framework. And there is still the question of the bulk of ex TT employees, which are critical to Qt in the long run.
My short term hope is that Necessitas focus on a QPA version of Qt, which should make porting much easier.
It was mentioned there is a sign of revival from necessitas at git, yet I don't seem to find anything...
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[quote author="utcenter" date="1342621205"]It was mentioned there is a sign of revival from necessitas at git, yet I don't seem to find anything...[/quote]
Take a look "here":https://gitorious.org/~taipan/qt-creator/android-qt-creator and "here":https://gitorious.org/~taipan/qt/android-lighthouse.
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[quote author="Andre" date="1342618846"]The point (which you cut away) was: Does it matter? Things are what they are. TrollTech got taken over by Nokia, like it or not. Now deal with it.[/quote]
I don't get someone like you. Either you or I have a twisted view on reality.
If your house burns down, or your girlfriend/wife dies, do you say "Well, it is what it is, no point in looking back. Now lets have a beer and party"?
Can you understand that some people are very emotional about Qt?
Of course it matters to some people. Don't tell them to "deal with it" because to some it sounds like an insult. -
Nah, Andre just has special attitude for me because he loves me very much ;) He is a lover that Andre, he is bound to say "nay" to everything I say :D
However, just because what I said wasn't what happened doesn't mean it cannot happen in the future, there is no safer future for Qt than one of independence.
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Beta is on it's way, apparently. AFAIK, Qt offices are still open and working on Qt5. There is still a lot to be done, though, 5 is not a small update, but a major improvement. As for Nokia itself, it remains annoyingly silent, or at least I have not heard any news in the last several weeks.
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For anyone having doubt that Qt is beeing worked on I invite them to join "Gerrit":https://codereview.qt-project.org/, "IRC":irc://freenode.net/#qt-labs or the "mailing list":http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development.
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I hopes we will have trustable and long term good news for Qt ... Desktop and Mobile Crossplatform .. I don't know if it's better to find alternative for mobile crossplatform (Mosync? Marmalade?)? It would be so fantastic to have a true Qt Desktop/Mobile Crossplatform Qt5 SDK !
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Unfortunately, mosync and marmalade don't support desktop platforms, unless you go for HTML/JS developemtn, neither is their native API as clean as that of Qt.
Mobile platform support (official) has been my hope for Qt, aside from a great market opportunity. Alas, this is simply impossible under Nokia, as for iOS support, even if Qt ownership shifts to someone, willing to support major mobile platforms, Apple has practically made it impossible to be 100% compatible with Qt (or vice versa). At least a 100% working android port is possible, but android itself is flawed, at least in my case, by dreadfully slow IO, be that sound or touch.
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The news of the day is not so good... There was a message on the developers mailinglist that the Brisbane office of Qt, where people are working on Qt3D, QtDeclarative, QtMultimedia, QtSensors, QtLocation and QtSystems modules, will be shut down at the end of the month.
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Yes it on the web as well "here":http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1MTM and "here":http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2012-August/005467.html
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I am a beginner of Qt and I like to write codes with Qt.
It is a sad news for me, what could we do to help Qt? -
Lear and use it, contribute to Qt-project if you want to. Qt is having a hard time, true, but it's also a FOSS project now, so we have to keep it alive ourselves.
