How to automatically detect the codec text file?

Hronom

Is it possible to automatically determine which encoding is used in the file?
Or you can somehow determine that the decoding of text from a file error occurred?

andre

No, there is not. It's the curse of "plain" text files: "they don't exist":http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html . But I guess you figured that out just based on posting this question.

Hronom

[quote author="Andre" date="1324122197"]No, there is not. It's the curse of "plain" text files: "they don't exist":http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html . But I guess you figured that out just based on posting this question. [/quote]
Yes, I see I'm trying to find a solution to this problem is beyond what is necessary to write something like OCR encoding. I am right now trying to write a project that generates a code listing of the source and collided with the fact that UI files are encoded in the UTF-8 while the source encoding native Windows. May already have a solution or reason for Qt?

goetz

UI files are XML and thus read and written with the appropriate classes that evaluate the encoding denoted in the XML header. That's completely different to regular C/C++ source files.

Hronom

[quote author="Volker" date="1324167608"]UI files are XML and thus read and written with the appropriate classes that evaluate the encoding denoted in the XML header. That's completely different to regular C/C++ source files.[/quote]
This is understandable, I write a program for all kinds of sources. I did not want to use any particular methods or reading for specific types of sources.

goetz

Detecting the encoding of text files is mostly plain guessing.

For example, UTF8 and Latin1 are completely identical in the first 127 code points. So you might have a file that has a non-ASCII character after 5 MB. You would need to read up to that amount of text to discover this.

andre

Basically all text encodings are the same for the first 127 code points :-)

goetz

"EBCDIC":http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC :-P

andre

Yeah, right, ok. All textcodecs that are relevant to your work today, I meant.

dangelog

Well, that's not true -- take UTF-16, for example.

andre

Still true. I was talking about code points, not bytes. UTF-16 just encodes code points in two bytes (for the most part anyway).

goetz

But to talk about code points you need the encoding beforehand, which is where the thread started :-)

andre

Isn't UTF-16 supposed to start with a byte order mark? If so, you can at least detect that one quite reliably :-)

dangelog

Unfortunately the unicode standard doesn't make the BOM required :(

goetz

Unfortunately, the byte order marks in UTF-8 or UTF-16 are valid 8bit ASCII code points too.

UTF-8
BOM = EF BB BF = ï»¿ (in ISO-8859-1 = Latin-1)

UTF-16:
Big Endian BOM = FE FF = þÿ
Little Endian BOM = FF FE = ÿþ

Using other ASCI code pages just yields other valid screen representations.

While having these three or two bytes as the very first bytes in a file is a strong sign of the use of unicode in the respective file, it is neither necessary (there is no mandatory BOM) nor sufficient to identify a UTF-8/16 encoded file.

If it was so easy to detect a file's encoding, there wouldn't be so much software that fails miserably on that job...

andre

So back to square 1: There is no such thing as plain text. :-)