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[Question] template feature for QtDN wikis

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    Wolf P.
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    MediaWiki, the software that keeps Wikipedia running, has an inclusion capability. It can be (and is heavily) used for building so-called template pages. These are included within thematically connected wiki pages to build a navigation menu.

    Has our wiki engine a similar feature? If not: can it be implemented?

    One use case can be read here http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/4355/

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      mgran
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      Sorry no, the wiki doesn't have this feature and it's far too deep into the wiki software for us to do it on our own.

      Project Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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        Wolf P.
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        :-( What a pity!

        ...and who decided to use just this wiki engine, and when and why?

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          mgran
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          [quote author="Wolf P." date="1299767687"]...and who decided to use just this wiki engine, and when and why?[/quote]

          Me, late 2009, because integrating MediaWiki and ExpressionEngine would require an unproportionate amount of resources spent on low level integrations instead of getting devnet on the air.

          It might sound like a fun engineering challenge - and I'm sure it is - but not for a 2 man team that wants to get stuff done :)

          It was a reality check based on something like this:

          • 2x template code
          • endless account integration headaches
          • 3x work on performance
          • 2x work on high availability
          • non-uniform dev, stage and production environments
          • ongoing matching issues with EE and MW releases
          • 3x work for cross site features (tag, rating, points, syntax highlighting)
          • 2x things to know to do content maintenance
          • mediawiki has a ton of features that will never be used
          • 2x vulnerability potential
          • 2x weird config settings that can be set wrong and cause issues

          And so on.

          I think I've said it before here, but we can at any point decide to switch to MediaWiki if the benefit/disadvantage equation above turns positive.

          I did the same math for using a different forum software as well, no doubt dedicated solutions like phpBB or vBulletin could do a great job as our forum.

          One could be tempted to think of this as a lesson learned from Nokia at large, but don't, it's not :)

          Project Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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            Wolf P.
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            Oh, thanks for the effort and the full report. :)

            Although I love MediaWiki somehow, I think it would be an overkill.

            ...what about

            • MoinMoin or
            • DokuWiki or even
            • Trac? or
            • "something else":http://www.wikimatrix.org/ - BTW: "Textile":http://textism.com/tools/textile/ isn't listed there (??)
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              mgran
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              I should have been more precise, MediaWiki was just an example. Replacing the native ExpressionEngine wiki engine with "any other" engine presents nearly the same challenges. :)

              It's the eternal "best of breed" vs. "one stop shop" discussion, for devnet the "one stop shop" won - so far. The future is bright, maybe one day the limited functionality of the native wiki engine warrants all the extra effort above to get a dedicated wiki engine. We're not there yet though.

              Project Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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