Update the C++ GUI Programming with Qt book
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wrote on 4 Dec 2010, 19:26 last edited by
Hey everyone, I guess I'm just hoping that Mark Summerfield reads this topic.
I hope that the book "C++ GUI Programming with Qt 4, 2nd ed." gets updated soon, as a Qt newbie, it would be great to have updated material to learn from, the book's been great so far, very complete, easy to read and understandable, but it's based on Qt 4.2 and 4.3, so all of the new cool stuff and other things added to Qt 4.7, would be good to have it in the book's easy to learn format (like Qt Quick and some QGraphics stuff I've read about).
Anyone backs me up on this? thanks!
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wrote on 4 Dec 2010, 19:38 last edited by
yes Raul, I'd buy the new edition if it were to be published :) and get one more for my team at work
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wrote on 4 Dec 2010, 21:50 last edited by
Wouldn't it make more sense to contact Mark Summerfield or the publishing house that printed the book instead of posting in a semi-random forum on the net? I am sure at least one of the two is really easy to contact for any owner of the book.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2010, 21:58 last edited by
Don't you know that Mark Summerfield has already published another Qt book?
"Advanced Qt Programming":http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Qt-Programming-Creating-Development/dp/0321635906
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wrote on 4 Dec 2010, 23:25 last edited by
Yeah, I have the advanced one, but it's mostly about multithreading, advance animation, hybrid network apps, etc.
I'm talking about newbies here, even though I have that book too, I read the first chapter and definitely decided I have to finish the first one to understand it.That's exactly why I posted this topic, I'm reading the first one, and because they use different versions, I'm afraid he's gonna mention something on the advanced book that, because of being from a newer release, it's gonna make a lot harder to learn the advanced features of Qt.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2010, 08:17 last edited by
I think it would be better to have a new book covering "all of the new cool stuff and other things added to Qt 4.7". A new book would be better than an update of "C++ GUI Programming with Qt 4" because the topics covered in it are still valid. "Advanced Qt Programming" does a good job covering more topics, but since Qt keeps growing at an incredible pace, yet another advanced topics book is needed. Or perhaps a book which approaches things from a different perspective (since Qt Quick is a different approach to UI development).
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wrote on 5 Dec 2010, 08:59 last edited by
Raul: I am a troll, not Superman.
I can fix (some small parts of) our code, but am usually unable to right the wrongs in the world.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2010, 10:45 last edited by
Hi tam, what type of book do you create? I would really be interested in, currently I read the advance sbook from Mike Sumemrfield. Bu the way, if you need proofreaders ... :-))
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wrote on 5 Dec 2010, 11:40 last edited by
German is no problem, that's my native language.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2010, 15:06 last edited by
@tamhanna : It would be cool to proof read the book, but my native language is spanish and really don't speak german :( but if your editor releases a translation to your book to either english or spanish, I'd love to help.
@Tobias : too bad you're not superman hehe ;) that's a bit how I see trolls, you guys do a titanic task on maintaining and growing the Qt toolkit, and the hardest part is, as I keep learning the toolkit, still It feels natural how one thing builds on top of the rest, because things on a visual multiplatform SDK can get ugly really quick, believe me, I come from the java swing world, now that's a package that really sucks on usability.
I'm enjoying Qt Quick so far, as I also contributed to a book on JavaFX which uses the same declarative concept for UI and building a great UX, it was a great decision on building such an extension. Too bad the java guys as always, killed the JavaFX script language because the VM couldn't handle the performance, but here you get great performance thanks to C++/Qt.
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wrote on 8 Dec 2010, 12:36 last edited by
I think that the only thing missing in the Qt documentation world is a good book. It doesn't need to be printed, but something that can be updated easily, maybe even with the help of the community (wikibooks?). In some surveys that QtDF did in the past, I already stressed that.
Why? Because of simplicity.
For newbies, is easy to read a book: you read chapter one, then chapter two, and so on. With a webpage, you have a huge mesh of interlinked articles, but in what order should be read? Does one article rely in you knowing something first? Many times they do.
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wrote on 8 Dec 2010, 16:08 last edited by
[quote author="disperso" date="1291811780"]I think that the only thing missing in the Qt documentation world is a good book.
[/quote]You don't think any of "these books":http://qt.nokia.com/developer/books/ are good?
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wrote on 8 Dec 2010, 17:28 last edited by
Ouch, sorry for the confusion, I initially wrote "a good online book", and then removed the "online" part because I don't really mean that it has to be web based or free of charge.
What I meant was a good up-to-date book. But this is really hard, since a publisher rarely will update the book as often as the Trolls do releases. And if they modularise the release process, with some parts being released more often than others, it will be even more hard to find updated documentation besides the one released with the code.
And don't get me wrong: that documentation is very good, but it seems more targetted as a reference. For learning, something in a book format that you can read from cover to cover is more suited, IMHO.
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wrote on 8 Dec 2010, 20:17 last edited by
You are right up-to-date books are potentially out-of-date with the next Qt release. However, I think a number of books still have good coverage of the fundamentals.
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