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    milot.shala
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    Thing is that if you plan to do live coding, do something that you know it will work for sure or you know the context very well , I was doing live coding in free style as well, I asked the audience to come up with something simple for the topics covered and do that, on the other hand if you do porting, make sure you ported that previously and it worked, as I did on my talk.

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      giesbert
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      I already saw live codings as competitions on conferences. As the presenters were very well prepared, it worked and was really intereisting

      Nokia Certified Qt Specialist.
      Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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        giesbert
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        That's right. And it uis much more interisting, if not only one person is in front who does the editing. The ones I saw, there were always two peoiple there, one does the coding, one the explanation.

        Nokia Certified Qt Specialist.
        Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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          DenisKormalev
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          Gerolf, yes, two persons at live codind are better then one. It simply allows them to make presentation well.

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            giesbert
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            On the Herbstcampus in Nuernberg (Germany) (ok, a java and .net conference :-) ) they had a competition. One task to solve (a newsletter app with front end and backend) to be solved with different technologies. They use JEE, Ruby, C#, ... really interisting. And always with explanation and a fixed time frame.
            Everyone was well prepared and wanted tio show, that their technology is the best....

            Nokia Certified Qt Specialist.
            Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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              DenisKormalev
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              Gerolf, looks interesting, hehe. Maybe such competitions (but with Qt) will be awesome.

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                giesbert
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                I already proposed that to ALexandra, she was very interested :-)
                Perhaps we will see such a competition on next Devdays...

                Nokia Certified Qt Specialist.
                Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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                  saidiahd
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                  A very good initiative :))
                  thank you Qt

                  "Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow." - Albert Einstein -

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                    joonhwan
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                    I'm thinking it will be good if we have scripts of videos and with which somebody can traslate it into many languages other than English(like TED site?).

                    joonhwan at gmail dot com

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                      kidproquo
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                      @Joonhwan

                      I was thinking the same thing a few days ago. "Universal Subtitles":http://www.universalsubtitles.org/ looks like it might be a good fit for what we want.

                      The other advantage of getting the videos transcribed is that it would make their contents searchable - there's an awful lot of content hidden away in there!

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                        kidproquo
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                        I am actually transcribing the "Augmented Reality talk":http://developer.qt.nokia.com/elearning/watch/leveraging_qt_mobility_for_creating_mobile_augmented_reality_services from DevDays 2010 as a test right now.

                        I will post a link once it's done so people can have a look.

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                          VladimirMinenko
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                          Concerning transcribing video's. It is certainly a good idea! No doubts! The critical factor is the amount of work behind required to get this done for the content we have. We currently have around 150 technical talks, plus others, e.g. keynotes, etc. Around 40 of them are from Developer Days 2010 alone. This sums up to many, many hours to watch and write... IMHO, transcribing a video would take around 3-5 times of its length. kidproquo will certainly know this time exactly in a while ;-). Then script has to through content and language corrections. It is quite some work! With the current staffing we would need to decide what we should not do if we would do this. Hmm... If there are enthusiast doing this work, it definitely makes sense to post the scripts on "Wiki":http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/.

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                          Vladimir

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                            kidproquo
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                            The 3-5 x the length of the video is pretty close as far as transcribing/syncing time. I can even be more if you're trying to do a really good job of it. After a while you do speed up though.

                            It is a massive amount of work, but if the infrastructure is set up it can be slowly chipped away at by suckers like me.

                            The Universal Subtitles project I linked to before provides a good base to get this collaborative work done. It has all the translation stuff built in, including an option for automatic translation through google translate.

                            Here's a finished example of a fully subtitled "video":http://www.universalsubtitles.org/en/videos/jVnwcixCPFgp/ (it's the QML/3d tutorial from youtube)

                            If we integrated the DevNet points system I could see myself grinding through a few of them when I was bored.

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                              kaznovac
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                              [quote author="Hanne" date="1275403244"]
                              ...
                              We already have some teaching material available, and are in the process of developing more.
                              Have a look at "the Qt in Education pages":http://qt.nokia.com/services-partners/qt-in-education, and let us know what you think.
                              ...
                              [/quote]

                              given link redirects to http://qt.nokia.com/include/test-area/services-partners/qt-in-education
                              and results 404 error :(

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                                sfilippidis
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                                I think the link for Qt in Education is (at least for now):

                                http://qt.nokia.com/partners/qt-in-education/

                                https://www.filippidis.name/

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                                  mgran
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                                  [quote author="kaznovac" date="1309201265"]given link redirects to http://qt.nokia.com/include/test-area/services-partners/qt-in-education
                                  and results 404 error :(
                                  [/quote]

                                  That's my fault, I'll fix that tomorrow. :/ Stavros has the correct link.

                                  Project Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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                                    qxoz
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                                    Is there any limitations for use those materials?
                                    I mean translate and publish them on other resources.

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                                      giesbert
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                                      You have to follow the license of the stuff. It is stated ther and tells you, what you might do and what not.

                                      [quote]
                                      License information
                                      The Qt in Education Course Materials are provided under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 License Agreement.

                                      The full license text is available here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/legalcode.
                                      [/quote]

                                      Nokia Certified Qt Specialist.
                                      Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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                                        qxoz
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                                        That seems to be stuff for study :)

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                                          giesbert
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                                          As always :-)

                                          Licenses might be tricky. And for specific cases, you sometimes need a lwayer to be 100% sure, what you might do and what not...

                                          So, read it and check, what is stated...

                                          Nokia Certified Qt Specialist.
                                          Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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