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    well back in 1998, i was a mcse and a mscd and it got me a job in US, that too without even a tech interview ... these were before the brain dump days ... and profit i did .. u bet ! :)

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      [quote author="chetankjain" date="1291475483"]
      [quote author="Andre" date="1291457850"]I don't agree. Examples of exams need not ask the same questions as the exams themselves, just give a good sense of the kind of questions and the level of expertise to expect. [/quote]

      andre, in the brain dumps, folks who attended and cleared the exams would go and contribute their questions with the options and the correct answer .. after a few days the entire db of questions was available and i know people who got > 950 out of 1000, without having worked on the subject :([/quote]

      But why this dont happen at this moment then?
      In other words, people who passed the exam at this moment dont post the questions and answers. So why be affraid for that.

      I also want to check were i stand in knowledge about Qt.
      With an example exam i can check this, just like i did with for example drivers license, math or historie exams.
      Mayby the trolls will reconsider their answer, because i think there will be more people willing to do the exams when they can practice in front. When i take myself as an example, i dont spend money on an exam when im not absolute sure that i make a reasonable chance to pass the exam.

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        I think it doesn't happen because of two reasons:

        You sign a kind of NDA at the beginning of the exam

        There is no centralized place to do it.

        But I do agree that it would be reasonable to have something to indicate the level of the exam. Not the exact questions, but the type of questions you can expect.

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          Type of questions and their level are showed in curriculum I think.

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            I'm preparing for the Essentials exam and I'm absolutely sure that a simulation would be helpful. I don't agree with Denis Kormalev that the level of questions is obvious from Curriculum block.

            Curriculum doesn't show how deeply one should know the topic. For example, what does "Learn how draw on widgets" mean? Is it enough to know that there is QPainter, it provides rich variety of drawing methods, supports affine transformations, different composition modes and so on? Or one should know all the details of working with QPainter, remember the most part of its methods and be able to draw complex things without looking at the documentation.

            The same thing is with "Learn how to use qmake" and "Be able to create and manage a Qt project via *.pro files". Qt Assistant contains an enormous amount of information about how to write Qt project files. What things should one remember about that?

            To my mind all these ambiguities might be avoided by providing an example exam that would help understand the necessary knowledge depth.

            P.S. Of course, I understand the arguments against exam simulation and share the opinion that simulation questions must differ from the exam ones.

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              bq. It covers the fundamental concepts in Qt

              bq. A minimum of 6-12 months experience of regular Qt development including hands-on experience in programming. Training courses are not mandatory not advisable.

              For me, this sound like: Use Qt for half a year, loook through examples and understand them and try out to do some own, doesn't it? The exam will not go down to the raster graphics engine and how to create own engines. But what should they write: Know QPainter but not it's methods? Know all methods? You need fundamental, basic knowledge, you needn't be a dictionary or an encyclopedia. It's the basic examn.

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                I Agree with Gerolf.

                Ok, the documentation is good and complete, as the forum, which is full of answers. But what I really missed was a kind of wiki containing specific contents about what is important for being a good Qt developer.

                What I've done in order to outline this issue? I started my own wiki to gather all information that I think is relevant; to knowing Qt better and to take the exam :)

                Birth, death, rebirth, though, and constantly progress, that is the law.

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                  [quote author="fguimaraes" date="1322136774"]I Agree with Gerolf.

                  Ok, the documentation is good and complete, as the forum, which is full of answers. But what I really missed was a kind of wiki containing specific contents about what is important for being a good Qt developer.

                  What I've done in order to outline this issue? I started my own wiki to gather all information that I think is relevant; to knowing Qt better and to take the exam :)[/quote]
                  Can you give us the link to your wiki?

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                    Sure, you can see it here: http://felipeguimaraes.cc/wiki/index.php/Qt_Essentials

                    Well, I'm just in the begining of it, maybe we could create d group to increase the speed of this task. I've certain that would be very productive for all participants.

                    Birth, death, rebirth, though, and constantly progress, that is the law.

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                      Why do you develop this wiki outside of Devnet? DevNet has its own wiki page, and I am sure good content would be very welcome there. By developing your own wiki, I think you just add to the fragmentation of resources for Qt. I am not convinced that that is a good idea.

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                        [quote author="Andre" date="1322138724"]Why do you develop this wiki outside of Devnet? DevNet has its own wiki page, and I am sure good content would be very welcome there. By developing your own wiki, I think you just add to the fragmentation of resources for Qt. I am not convinced that that is a good idea. [/quote]

                        Hello Andre,

                        I have no objection to write in devnet's wiki. As you can see I'm new here and I'm just discovering the opportunities. Yes, you're idea is very good, I'll start to collaborate in devnet's wiki. Given your experience, you could help too. What you think? Would be very useful for the community as you said.

                        Birth, death, rebirth, though, and constantly progress, that is the law.

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                          I am already contributing to the collective knowledge base in other ways, but I cannot at the moment commit to helping you out with creating new wiki pages.

                          I wish you a lot of luck with that enterprise though! The community would benenfit from having good wiki pages created on things like this. I just hope you manage to focus enough for the pages to stay managable and findable. Welcome to Devnet!

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