Why isn't qt so popular
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@Thank-You
As discussed, the small business commercial offering does not cost "50k". $500 is not $50k.In any case, the community edition is free, so why not use that? Why do you need the commercial edition?
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@Thank-You said in Why isn't qt so popular:
Nope bro, In other countries it is equivalent to 50K of that country 😂😂 Not dollars
Then say so in your response! I had no idea that your "50k" meant in some unnamed currency, and without knowing the currency it could be the equivalent of $1 for all we know! :) [I remember when there used to be 1,500 Italian Lira to the £, so 50k Lira was like 40$ !]
Can we use community edition for small companies to earn some money??
Yes, of course, 100%. You simply have to abide by the LGPL for the majority of Qt, or the GPL of a couple of optional packages if you use them. But you certainly can earn money from the community edition, without paying a fee or royalties. The commercial version is essentially there if you want to hide your source code, that's all.
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@mzimmers
Yes. I did italicize essentially. I think the poster I was replying to is going to be a "small" user, hence the summary. Other features, and the release support situation, are more likely (italicized again) to be of most interest to "larger" users. -
Why Qt is so unpopular? OK lets dicklate:
- stupid, unclear $500/yr for licence; its counter-productive; when you own startup, and you see $500 tag, you simply go eksewhere; there are tons of raples that are cheaper/free with much greater functions set,
- shit software like kde, gnome, fuckUI, moodle etc
- known installer bugs like having to install SHITAS ( fuck you kde )
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@macfanpl said in Why isn't qt so popular:
- shit software like kde, gnome, fuckUI, moodle etc
3 out of 4 items on your list don't use Qt at all....
- known installer bugs like having to install SHITAS ( fuck you kde )
There is no KDE stuff in Qt installer ;-)
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@macfanpl said in Why isn't qt so popular:
there are tons of raples that are cheaper/free with much greater functions set,
What toolkits other than Qt do you recommend for C++ development with single source for Windows/Linux/MacOS (desktop)?
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C++ was dead in the enterprise years ago. Most people writing new C++ projects these days are writing an OS/browser/game engine/stock trading system, which means it's a very niche language. (think what % these projects are, compared to all new software projects). Universities stopped using C++ in their classes at least a decade ago.
On top of that, the sort of 50yo+ people who still champion C++ in 2020 for general development, hate the readable, well-designed, object-oriented API of Qt, because it's not "pure" C++. They hate that moc adds features to the C++ language that make it more convenient to use, they hate that Qt made their own types even though they're far superior to stdlib's (eg QString vs std::string).
So Qt is a niche framework for a niche programming language.
Edit 1: and for your average mobile developer, the expensive license to be able to publish to iOS makes it a non-starter. Everyone else is fighting to give them free dev tools, but here comes Qt saying "pay us $500/month "or whatever it's at now.
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@thierryhenry14 said in Why isn't qt so popular:
C++ was dead in the enterprise years ago.
LOL. Just LOL.
Technologies come and go, C & C++ stay
"La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
~Napoleon BonaparteOn a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt
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@thierryhenry14 said in Why isn't qt so popular:
[...] Most people writing new C++ projects these days are writing an OS/browser/game engine/stock trading system, [...]
10 years of commercial experience and I have never written any of the programs you mention. Nor do I know anybody who did.
Which proves nothing, of course, because we're just 2 blokes in an ocean of developers. I don't know what more proper statistics would show.
Universities stopped using C++ in their classes at least a decade ago.
Not everywhere. It's still surprisingly often taught around here, which is quite stupid.
On top of that, the sort of 50yo+ people who still champion C++ in 2020 for general development hate the readable, well-designed, object-oriented API of Qt, because it's not "pure" C++. They hate that moc adds features to the C++ language that make it more convenient to use, they hate that Qt made their own types even though they're far superior to stdlib's (eg QString vs std::string).
This Qt-hate is sadly true.
Edit 1: and for your average mobile developer, the expensive license to be able to publish to iOS makes it a non-starter. Everyone else is fighting to give them free dev tools, but here comes Qt saying "pay us $500/month "or whatever it's at now.
And this is true as well :-|
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@Thank-You said in Why isn't qt so popular:
Can moderators and QT champion raise some voice in it?
No.
And earlier it was said "pay us $500/month", but it's more like $500 per year I believe for the starting license? I'm not saying that's free, but it's 1/12th of what was stated.
I don't know what facilities of the non-free-community edition of Qt a very small business needs.
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@Thank-You said in Why isn't qt so popular:
Yes The price is huge point for personal developer.
Yup. Even for big companies, the pricing of commercial Qt is a show stopper.
Can moderators and QT champion raise some voice in it?
I have raised my voice, many times and across multiple channels. No luck ;-) I guess for the Qt Company shareholders are much more important than the community.
