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    cazador7907
    wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 02:47 last edited by
    #3

    The the way to test for NULL is simply:

    If (pointer == null)

    or

    if (pointer == 0)

    Yes?

    Laurence -

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      Taamalus
      wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 03:21 last edited by
      #4

      ^ This may not work.
      http://www.codeguru.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-358371.html

      Simply go
      @
      if (ptrName)
      cout << “Pointer points to something”;
      else
      cout << “Pointer is NULL”;
      @

      Yet, make sure, the pointer is initialized, as described in more detail in the link. ;)

      ... time waits for no one. - Henry

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        tobias.hunger
        wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 06:05 last edited by
        #5

        You can of course also initialize member pointers in the initializer list of the constructor.

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          andre
          wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 06:21 last edited by
          #6

          Initialization in the initializer list is a good idea. Did you know you can even new objects there? Things like this are legal:

          @
          MyQObject::MyQObject(parent):
          m_timer(new QTimer(this))
          {
          ...
          }
          @

          For pointers that you wish to initialize elsewhere: NULL is more of a C construct. For C++, using 0 is more common.

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            giesbert
            wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 06:49 last edited by
            #7

            If you don't ant to check your pointers for 0, you can also use the so called NullObject pattern.

            This means you initialise a pointer to a static object with the same interface that just does nothing. The you can avoid this (if(0 != p) ...

            "see here":http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_Object_pattern

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            Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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              andre
              wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 07:37 last edited by
              #8

              Nice one Gerolf, I was not familiar with this pattern.
              Though of course you don't need to actually do if(0 != ptr) { }, as Taamalus points out.

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                goetz
                wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 11:12 last edited by
                #9

                [quote author="Taamalus" date="1300504867"]^ This may not work.
                http://www.codeguru.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-358371.html
                [/quote]

                What's the rationale behind this? To my knowledge even in poor old C (without ++) "0" is the all-valid constant for a null pointer (regardless of the internal representation for the actual machine). So

                @
                if(ptr == 0)
                doFancyThings();
                @

                is always valid code (See "comp.lang.c FAQ list, Question 5.2":http://c-faq.com/null/null2.html and "Question 5.5":http://c-faq.com/null/machnon0.html).

                Though the short comparison you suggested, is always valid too ("C FAQ, 5.3":http://c-faq.com/null/ptrtest.html) and also more readable, so to prefer over the "noisy" one, IMHO.

                http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                  tobias.hunger
                  wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 18:09 last edited by
                  #10

                  Somewhat unrelated, but the assumption that accessing the 0 pointer will always results in a segmentation fault is not necessarily true. See https://lwn.net/Articles/342330/ for a very interesting description of what can happen when 0 suddenly becomes a valid pointer.

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                    giesbert
                    wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 18:45 last edited by
                    #11

                    I also saw something like this:

                    @
                    int CClass::foo()
                    {
                    if(0 == this)
                    return 0
                    do stuff
                    }
                    @

                    with this syntax, this is absolutly safe:

                    @
                    CClass* p = 0;
                    p->foo();
                    @

                    This was some method in I think MFC API

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                    Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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                      goetz
                      wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 18:48 last edited by
                      #12

                      [quote author="Gerolf" date="1300560358"]I also saw something like this:

                      @
                      int CClass::foo()
                      {
                      if(0 == this)
                      return 0
                      do stuff
                      }
                      @

                      with this syntax, this is absolutly safe:

                      @
                      CClass* p = 0;
                      p->foo();
                      @

                      This was some method in I think MFC API[/quote]

                      Completely weird... I would not suppose this to work on other compilers than Microsoft's :-)

                      http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                        giesbert
                        wrote on 19 Mar 2011, 18:55 last edited by
                        #13

                        don't know, I think ist CWnd::getSafeHWnd...
                        and as no members are accessed, it could work.
                        This is in fact a parameter (hidden behind C++).

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                        Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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                          Taamalus
                          wrote on 21 Mar 2011, 02:08 last edited by
                          #14

                          [quote author="Volker" date="1300533129"][quote author="Taamalus" date="1300504867"]^ This may not work.
                          http://www.codeguru.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-358371.html
                          [/quote]

                          What's the rationale behind this? To my knowledge even in poor old C (without ++) "0" is the all-valid constant for a null pointer (regardless of the internal representation for the actual machine). So

                          @
                          if(ptr == 0)
                          doFancyThings();
                          @

                          is always valid code (See "comp.lang.c FAQ list, Question 5.2":http://c-faq.com/null/null2.html and "Question 5.5":http://c-faq.com/null/machnon0.html).
                          [/quote]
                          Thanks, I stand corrected. :) Still, there is no way I will use it, but from now on, just as a personal preference.
                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointer_(computing)#Null_pointer
                          this link is just to save face :D on my preferences

                          Also thanks Gerolf! Re: Null Object Patterns, not for C++ but for LISP! Cheers! :)

                          ... time waits for no one. - Henry

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