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    fcrochik
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    Is the FAQ only for paying customers? Where one would go to ask a question to support (instead of using the forum)?

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      goetz
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      peppe, the content under menu "FAQ" is fully automatically generated from the Qt docs. The DevNet Trolls (Marius, Alexandra, Gurudutt, etc.) do not have access to change that, but can only request their colleagues.

      chrochik, The FAQ is maintained manually. It surely is not based on wether you're a paying customer or not. It's based on the frequency the question is asked - hence F-AQ :-) If something pops up often enough in the various channels, I suspect the Trolls will add the topic.

      http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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        giesbert
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        Afaik the support is only for commercial customers, isn't it? And a forum is something like FAq or not?

        Nokia Certified Qt Specialist.
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          dangelog
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          [quote author="Volker" date="1292619597"]peppe, the content under menu "FAQ" is fully automatically generated from the Qt docs. The DevNet Trolls (Marius, Alexandra, Gurudutt, etc.) do not have access to change that, but can only request their colleagues.
          [/quote]

          I know that, and moreover those FAQs do not cover the forums, the wiki and so on. That's why I asked for some unofficial, user-mantained FAQs. Should I assume that there are none? If so, wouldn't it be nice to have them?

          Software Engineer
          KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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            dangelog
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            [quote author="Gerolf Reinwardt" date="1292619621"]Afaik the support is only for commercial customers, isn't it? And a forum is something like FAq or not?[/quote]

            No, the forum is certainly not FAQs. OTOH, a FAQs section could be made in the wiki, and things that aren't already in the "official" FAQs and/or are related to the DevNet wiki/forums themselves could go in that section.

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            KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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              giesbert
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              Ok, your point.
              And perhaps a wiki page / category would make it.

              Nokia Certified Qt Specialist.
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                stukdev
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                What is the 'input' that create some FAQ to the troll database?

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                  giesbert
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                  bq. Marius wrote "here":http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/1079
                  To answer the OPs question; the FAQs are edited by the Qt Support team. And each night we get a fresh copy of their FAQ database. The actual source is in the customer support systems we use.

                  I’ve cleaned up some of them, removed the “please fix this / now it’s fixed” comments and removed the tag. But more work is needed there, clearly.

                  So it comes from the support database. And I think, the support database is dilled by supprt cases?

                  Nokia Certified Qt Specialist.
                  Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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                    mgran
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                    It goes like this: Qt Support (the fantastic Trolls responding to support requests from "paying customers":http://shop.qt.nokia.com/en/support.html) have a support system, this system stores questions that they get with the answers they have. They have had this FAQ database for years and years.

                    The ones that are thought to be of general good value for anyone gets tagged with "OK to put on the web" or something like that.

                    Every night we get this set of FAQs over the wire from that support system and we turn it into the FAQ section here. So even though I can edit a FAQ here it's going to be overwritten later.

                    We have made an RSS feed of FAQ comments that Qt Support checks up on and slowly but surely they are updating the FAQs at the source. And there is a set of tags used by the moderators on the FAQs to identify improvements.

                    We've had some good old challenges with this, since the source is in pure text with limited or no indentation. All the syntax-highlighting is added by a regex on import and it's not water tight. Also some FAQs have attachments and they don't make it over (and they need a legal check).

                    I'm thinking of adding some text above the comment box on FAQs, asking that questions should go to the forum but if you have something to add to the FAQ it's great to add it as a comment. Hopefully that would help with expectations, any thoughts?

                    Project Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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                      fcrochik
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                      Just to make sure: the FAQ contents are overwritten every night but the comments added "by us" not. Right?

                      I have to say that the "FAQ" name throws me off a bit and by the posts on this thread I am not the only one. My "first instinct" was to assume that FAQ somehow was a sub set of the forum questions that were answered and highly rated. After I couldn't find any relation between the two contents my next impulse was to try to figure out how to ask a question on the FAQ section...

                      I don't know how but I would suggest that there is something that can be done either to the title of the section ("Support FAQ?") and/or maybe adding an explaining paragraph (with a link to the support page?) on the top of the FAQ page. It may actually work as an incentive for people to try to buy support :)

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                        giesbert
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                        That's right, it would help. I think there are many people a bit suprised, you see that on the other threads regarding the FAQ.

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                        Programming Is Like Sex: One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life. (Michael Sinz)

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                          dangelog
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                          Right. So, how about a "community" unofficial FAQ section, exactly like the "official" one but maintained by regulars?

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                          KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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                            giesbert
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                            So in addition to the wiki? as part of the wiki?
                            And who should fill it? only mad scientist? all? questions on questions :-))

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                              stukdev
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                              Yes, question on question.
                              Maybe is a good idea only the FAQ on the qt site.
                              Some people look that, not a FAQ in a wiki.

                              [quote author="Gerolf Reinwardt" date="1292759426"]So in addition to the wiki? as part of the wiki?
                              And who should fill it? only mad scientist? all? questions on questions :-))[/quote]

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                                dangelog
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                                Many threads from the forum can possibly become good candidates for inclusion into the FAQs; and being FAQs, I like the Question + Answer + Comments (which from time to time get merged into the Answer) structure more than a wiki page.

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                                KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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                                  goetz
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                                  That could easily achieved with a category FAQ that would be added to the respective pages, together with some overview page.

                                  I too like the idea of a community maintained FAQ.

                                  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                                    vsorokin
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                                    [quote author="Volker" date="1292767407"]
                                    I too like the idea of a community maintained FAQ.[/quote]

                                    QtDN wiki is community maintained FAQ now. Why do make something else?

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                                      goetz
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                                      [quote author="Vass" date="1292768981"]QtDN wiki is community maintained FAQ now. Why do make something else?[/quote]

                                      Good point - you catched me ;-)

                                      http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                                        dangelog
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                                        [quote author="Vass" date="1292768981"][quote author="Volker" date="1292767407"]
                                        I too like the idea of a community maintained FAQ.[/quote]

                                        QtDN wiki is community maintained FAQ now. Why do make something else?[/quote]

                                        Because the wiki lacks the form of a Q/A database. I'd say it's much more suitable for articles, tutorials or so, while FAQs are good for "How I do this?" kind of things. My 2 cents.

                                        Software Engineer
                                        KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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                                          vsorokin
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                                          peppe, What about this category: "Category:HowTo":http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Category:HowTo

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