It would be better to autojoin my posts in discussion if they go successively
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[quote author="peppe" date="1292614924"]But I still think that a simple automatic message "This post has been updated on date/time" before the signature would be helpful (see my previous comment).
[/quote]I strongly support this suggestion. That would save some headaches if someone replies to the original, unchanged version.
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[quote author="Volker" date="1292613860"]
I think, all that causes more headaches than it solves problems.[/quote]To whom exactly? The user or the trolls?[quote author="peppe" date="1292614924"]
I see no difference between hitting "post reply" instead of "edit" and submitting new content.[/quote]There's a significant difference in size in the buttons. Also I find it quicker to write a new post than to edit an old one.QtCentre has a construction with joining posts which is partially discussed "here":http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/36362-Just-a-suggestion-remove-post (from wysota's second post on).
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[quote author="Franzk" date="1292616538"]There's a significant difference in size in the buttons. Also I find it quicker to write a new post than to edit an old one.[/quote]
I cannot agree more. But my suggestion regarding auto-join is close to what peppe suggested, as it there should be some label which shows that the text is a later addition (anyway this should have work with the edit button as well, just for avoiding misunderstanding).
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[quote author="Franzk" date="1292616538"][quote author="Volker" date="1292613860"]
I think, all that causes more headaches than it solves problems.[/quote]To whom exactly? The user or the trolls?
[/quote]Both. See my comments on notifications for an example.
I personally prefer deciding myself if I want a new post or if I want to edit an older post.
Also, as you cannot be sure that in the meantime someone has posted another comment, you will not know if you are creating a new comment or append to an old one once you hit the post button. So, an edit button is needed anyways.
And we coders do have a favor for deterministic behaviour, don't we? :-)
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[quote author="Volker" date="1292617562"]Also, as you cannot be sure that in the meantime someone has posted another comment, you will not know if you are creating a new comment or append to an old one once you hit the post button.[/quote]
If you want to add something to your former post (or correct a typo) for sure you have to use the edit button. If you just have a new idea, you can post reply and if you were the last one who posted you can be prompted to auto-join your posts (with an update label to separate the new comment). As I understand Alexander's original intention was something similar to this.
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[quote author="Franzk" date="1292616538"][quote author="peppe" date="1292614924"]
I see no difference between hitting "post reply" instead of "edit" and submitting new content.[/quote]There's a significant difference in size in the buttons. Also I find it quicker to write a new post than to edit an old one.
.[/quote]BEHOLD THE GIANT EDIT BUTTON!
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[quote author="VCsala" date="1292618467"]
[quote author="Volker" date="1292617562"]Also, as you cannot be sure that in the meantime someone has posted another comment, you will not know if you are creating a new comment or append to an old one once you hit the post button.[/quote]If you want to add something to your former post (or correct a typo) for sure you have to use the edit button. If you just have a new idea, you can post reply and if you were the last one who posted you can be prompted to auto-join your posts (with an update label to separate the new comment). As I understand Alexander's original intention was something similar to this.[/quote]
That's just proper etiquette.
BTW, now we're reaching tremendous bikeshredding levels here.
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I said about usability. For example I write message and then click button post reply. Page is reloaded and I see my message. After that I think of something else. I just write another message and click post reply. Both messages must be joined in one (only if they go successively!). But now instead this scenario I must click edit button, waiting while web page is being reloaded and after that I can edit my message and then click post reply. It is not convenient.
_Сode less. create more. _ :)
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Well, I agree with peppe & Volker (and my previous post :P). Think of two situations:
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You post your opinion and after 5 minutes you'd like to add something (and nobody has replied/posted after you). You press edit button, which took 5 seconds more than action with pressing "post reply" (c'mon 5 sec!) and edit your post - as a result you get edited post with "post was edited by x on y" adnotation.
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In popular (or even not popular) subforum there is discussion about some problem where only 2 (or few) users participate. User x writes that he/she have to test something to confirm problem/find solution. It may take from few hours to few days (or more). It'd be quite hard for other user to find the answer, because he's not getting notification e-mail or thread is on 2nd...nth page.
Maybe compromise would be autojoin if user posted in less then x minutes after original posting time.
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[quote author="maciek" date="1292626076"]You press edit button, which took 5 seconds more than action with pressing "post reply" (c'mon 5 sec!)[/quote]If every new idea I have when posting on forums costs me 5 seconds extra, I only have to have 12 new ideas to loose a minute.
[quote]Maybe compromise would be autojoin if user posted in less then x minutes after original posting time.[/quote]Which is only natural, imo.