[Groups] What's the rationale for regional group names?
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[quote author="Gerolf Reinwardt" date="1292487001"]Hi,
my personal opinion is that language groups would be better than country groups, as then you can just use the groups, you speak the language and talk there in native language. Especially, if you have a wiki there, where you want translated pages in :-)[/quote]I agree.
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[quote author="Gerolf Reinwardt" date="1292487001"]Hi,
my personal opinion is that language groups would be better than country groups, as then you can just use the groups, you speak the language and talk there in native language. Especially, if you have a wiki there, where you want translated pages in :-)[/quote]I agree we should share the content (and forums) written in the same language. Another option is to keep the groups per country, but share forums and wikis between them (it's possible AFAIK)
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[UPDATED: Confusion on my end between writing and thinking]
Yes, the idea was to name the forums according to languages. I went back and forth with myself on the matter yesterday and I came to the conclusion, that it probably makes most sense that way.
So forums for Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Russian etc.
For the groups, I prefer to keep them regional. It will make it easier mid-term to meet group members in person if they are at least in somewhat the same area. I know, all is relative if one looks at Russia or China or Brazil, but it's a start. :-P
What do you people think?
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Sorry Alexandra, i don't understand if i have to request rename or you (or admin) rename the group with this 'standard'.
[quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1292504805"]Yes, the idea was to name the groups according to languages. I went back and forth with myself on the matter yesterday and I came to the conclusion, that it probably makes most sense that way.
Qt Italian, Qt Spanish, Qt Portuguese, Qt German, Qt Russian etc.
That said: I will look through the groups we have and might rename some accordingly. I already saw some requests flowing in.[/quote]
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[quote author="stuk" date="1292505017"]Sorry Alexandra, i don't understand if i have to request rename or you (or admin) rename the group with this 'standard'.[/quote]
See above, I was confused.
For renaming, you can request it or I can change it myself. It will end up in my queue for manual work anyway. :)
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But if we create the groups locally and the forums by language, then a Qt Switzerland group needs 3 forums... (German, French and Italian). I think, it would be better to make the groups by language and perhaps subgroups in the specific forums for the countries, if that is wished.But which group should I join for the German forum, Austria, Germany or Switzerland?
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[quote author="Gerolf Reinwardt" date="1292505984"]But if we create the groups locally and the forums by language, then a Qt Switzerland group needs 3 forums... (German, French and Italian). I think, it would be better to make the groups by language and perhaps subgroups in the specific forums for the countries, if that is wished.But which group should I join for the German forum, Austria, Germany or Switzerland?[/quote]
I don't think that forums and groups must have a hierarchial structure: the same German forum can be used by the Germany, Switzerland, Austria groups and so on. This allows you to join (for instance) the "Austria" group and the "German" forum/wiki at the same time.
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[quote author="peppe" date="1292508936"]
I don't think that forums and groups must have a hierarchial structure: the same German forum can be used by the Germany, Switzerland, Austria groups and so on. This allows you to join (for instance) the "Austria" group and the "German" forum/wiki at the same time.[/quote]Precisely. That was the idea. Or rather: the groups will share a forum where it makes sense; Qt Latin America and Qt Spain for example. I know that it can become a minefield but I have high hopes that you people are pragmatic.
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[quote author="Alexandra Leisse" date="1292504805"]
For the groups, I prefer to keep them regional. It will make it easier mid-term to meet group members in person if they are at least in somewhat the same area. I know, all is relative if one looks at Russia or China or Brazil, but it's a start. :-PWhat do you people think?
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I agree with this. If we go by language, then there will never be a local group for the Indian developer community. Here we use English and only English when it comes to computers/programming.
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Are you sure is a good idea speak 'natural' language in a region group? Ok, this is useful for the group, but for the other user that want follow the job of other group is a problem.
For example, if a german group speak about useful function for the devnet, more user can't understand what they write.
Same to the regional tag.There is a advantage in a side and a disadvantage in other side.
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Regional groups should allow for the native languages the cover, imho. Sometimes it is hard to express the problem in english - way not all of us are native english speakers and many have may have only some limited knowledge of english. If the problem is important enough, it will pop up in the main forums too, I'm sure.
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I see a big advantage for people, that are not that well in English or that can't describe their problems in English. There already exist some forums in German for Qt, because those people want to talk German (why ever :-)). So that's why the language groups perhaps should talk in native, if they want.
I agree that the disadvantage is, that not all people can follow the discussions, but that's why it's a language / regional group, isn't it? Otherwise they could also talk in the global forum. -
just a side note, in India we have about 850+ languages that are spoken of which, about 23 languages are considered official ... so at present we stick to English here :)