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  • AlicemirrorA Offline
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    Alicemirror
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    Hello,

    sure, I see that it is possible to edit to revert, but

    1. I think that onoe of the best resources of the dev site is that here people develop serious and reliable cooperations. So I think that this action should be notified and avoided. I think that this is a non-usual behavior so the users that operate in this way should be removed or stopped. For the respect of all the other that do serious works.

    2. I don't like a sort of children war where you remove my page and I remove your pages and revert the changes and so on... I see that this guy (you can see his profile in the wiki pages history) should be notified. I think that this is a beahvior really far from the ethics of this place.

    Cheers.

    Enrico Miglino (aka Alicemirror)
    Balearic Dynamics
    Islas Baleares, Ibiza (Spain)
    www.balearicdynamics.com

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      troubalex
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      #5

      Sometimes these things go wrong without bad intent. In Eddy's case, Kevin changed the URL so it complies to our heading standard. It's part of the wiki gardening. Unfortunately, he didn't remember to set a redirect. These things happen.

      We're in a bit of an unfortunate situation with our wiki not supporting discussion pages. I'm trying to come up with some sort of sane guidelines to avoid frustration for those - like Alicemirror - who put a lot of work into a wiki page which is then broken for whatever reason.

      In this special case, I will contact nikrolls and check with him why he made the changes. I'm confident he had good reason.

      THE CAKE IS A LIE
      Web Community Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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        loladiro
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        [quote author="Alicemirror" date="1313066723"]Hello,

        sure, I see that it is possible to edit to revert, but

        1. I think that onoe of the best resources of the dev site is that here people develop serious and reliable cooperations. So I think that this action should be notified and avoided. I think that this is a non-usual behavior so the users that operate in this way should be removed or stopped. For the respect of all the other that do serious works.

        2. I don't like a sort of children war where you remove my page and I remove your pages and revert the changes and so on... I see that this guy (you can see his profile in the wiki pages history) should be notified. I think that this is a beahvior really far from the ethics of this place.

        Cheers.[/quote]

        I absolutely agree with what you're saying. I remarked the "edit to revert" feature in response to Eddy's [quote]
        maybe there is some kind of backup of the wikipages so that everything can be restored to the right time.
        [/quote]. I am sure that Alexandra will find a solution to resolve this.

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        • AlicemirrorA Offline
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          Alicemirror
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          Thank you Alexandra, but as you can see in the wiki changes history, the reason is explained in the comment of his changes: these things can be found in his revisione notes:

          bq. Revision Note:
          Most of these steps aren't needed!

          That is that the removed piece is the reason of the page. I don't discuss that it maybe wrong or with errors or whatever. But I think that this is not a method to operate at all. Then, unfortunately, in this case me, matrixx and the poor guy that tried to use the new version of the pages reach the same conclusions.

          Thank you anyway for you always present support :)

          Enrico Miglino (aka Alicemirror)
          Balearic Dynamics
          Islas Baleares, Ibiza (Spain)
          www.balearicdynamics.com

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          • AlicemirrorA Offline
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            Alicemirror
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            @ioladiro

            Your post is arrived just a second before my answer to Alexandra, that - as usual - done the right things :)

            Thank you for your support to all :)

            P.S. Qt-Complex is going ahead, a new version next week with strong news. See ya

            Enrico Miglino (aka Alicemirror)
            Balearic Dynamics
            Islas Baleares, Ibiza (Spain)
            www.balearicdynamics.com

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              troubalex
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              [quote author="Alicemirror" date="1313066723"]

              1. I think that onoe of the best resources of the dev site is that here people develop serious and reliable cooperations. So I think that this action should be notified and avoided. I think that this is a non-usual behavior so the users that operate in this way should be removed or stopped. For the respect of all the other that do serious works.[/quote]

              Hm. I agree with your sense of cooperation and serious work but sometimes people make mistakes. Most of the time there is no bad intent when another user changes a wiki page but rather the honest wish to improve something. I think we should grant others the benefit of doubt.

              [quote author="Alicemirror" date="1313066723"]
              2) I don't like a sort of children war where you remove my page and I remove your pages and revert the changes and so on... I see that this guy (you can see his profile in the wiki pages history) should be notified. I think that this is a beahvior really far from the ethics of this place.
              [/quote]

              True. Being childish is never a good idea. I reverted the page now and sent an email to Nik. As long as I don't have any other evidence, I trust that he knows what he's doing and something simply went wrong. I stopped counting the wiki pages I messed up and needed to revert...

              I certainly understand your frustration if something like this happens but let's keep in mind that in most cases people here are reasonable. I suggest getting in touch with the respective user directly or, if that doesn't appear to be feasible, report the page with a meaningful comment so I can sort things out. :)

              THE CAKE IS A LIE
              Web Community Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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              • EddyE Offline
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                Eddy
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                #10

                @ loladiro
                I know we kan revert in the wiki and I was confident Alicemirror knew that too.

                Sometimes we need some motherly care to make things back to normal when normal solutions are not adequate. Thanks Alexandra ;)

                Qt Certified Specialist
                www.edalsolutions.be

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                • AlicemirrorA Offline
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                  Alicemirror
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  :D

                  Alexandra, as I have notified to you in other occasions I appreciate very much your work (there are many ways to do the sam job...) But one of the things that I could appreciate of you is the diplomacy :)

                  The only goal I think should be that we can take benefit from this global cooperation. The other stuff are only rumors.

                  bq. As long as I don’t have any other evidence, I trust that he knows what he’s doing and something simply went wrong.

                  Agree.

                  To be honest , I posted here the problem just because I was unsure what to do.

                  bq. report the page with a meaningful comment so I can sort things out

                  Next time I follow this advice.

                  Cheers.

                  Enrico Miglino (aka Alicemirror)
                  Balearic Dynamics
                  Islas Baleares, Ibiza (Spain)
                  www.balearicdynamics.com

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                    loladiro
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    @ Eddy
                    I never doubted that, however I thought I'd just point that out.

                    BTW, congrats on reaching the Mad Scientist level (I just noticed) ;) .

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                    • AlicemirrorA Offline
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                      Alicemirror
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      @Eddy

                      It's true!!! I saw it now... As far as I know you from the posts and mail we had exchanged, it is you level!

                      :)

                      Enrico Miglino (aka Alicemirror)
                      Balearic Dynamics
                      Islas Baleares, Ibiza (Spain)
                      www.balearicdynamics.com

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                      • EddyE Offline
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                        Eddy
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        Thanks for the kind words!

                        I hope we can have a lot more Qt fun here.

                        Qt Certified Specialist
                        www.edalsolutions.be

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